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3 Dimensional Chat / 3D Modeling for Begginers (Word of Advice)

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BiggAdd
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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 05:19
Im going to give a word of advice to people who are wanting to start modeling:

People seem to be adopting the idea that just because they cant model on a program straight away, it must be the programs fault and not thiers.
I diddn't wake up one morning to find myself modeling a Ferrari Enzo. It takes time. And no, good models dont have to come from a good program. Heck, the things i make on C4D could be put to shame by some of the models someone could easily make in milkshape.

Perfect example of this. I own Photoshop... Extreamly powerful 2D Graphics program... But if you could see some of the stuff the guys on this forum are coming out with made in Microsoft Paint....I could only dream to achieve on Photoshop... Do you see what im saying?

My line of Programs:

3DCanvas 6
3DCanvasPro
Blender
Anima8or
3D Studio Demo
C4D Demo for 1 year ish

C4D 8.1 Studio bundle. (Damn R9... makes me green with envy)

^^^ And thats not over the space of one week... thats over about 2-3 years.

Just because you see someone achive fantastic results on one program, does not mean that is for you. Play around a little. See whats out there. Try, www.gooogle.co.uk. That tends to find things in that big mass of web out there.

So please dont ask "Whats the best modeler?" "Cast your Votes" Etc etc etc... its not the way to do it. Demos are there for a reason and to be fair, if there was one modeler out there that everyone loved and it was perfect for everyone, there wouldn't be other modelers now would there?

Another thing:
Dont try to Run before you Walk.

I see far to many people practicaly saying "I've just started to learn modeling" Here is my attempt at a detailed model of St Pauls Catherdral.

Why not familiarise yourself with the program first? Why not look at its features and tools. Then when u've checked something out, create a wierd alien or something, to exercise ur building skills. My first model in Cinema 4D was a robot buggy type thing. Here i have a picture of it. See how quickly i got from 0 to that? i mean its not great, but its a start!

All i did was messed around with its functions for a while. Bit of trial and error.

The best way to learn how to model is to model something out of your imagination. Just like you were teaching a child to draw, you dont sit the child infront of a landscape view and expect a masterpiece now do you?

I hope this has helped someone (And hope it made Sense),

Add


Truly Magical!
Mucky Muck Ninja
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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 06:07
Amen. There is no "best" modeller. It simply matters what you can do with it. You might as well ask a stranger what a good band is, most likely he will have different prefs than you do.

Im sick of Master Chief soo...ooga booga!!
Explain to me why some people pay money for 3d software? Its not 3d till its been blended. wwww.blender3d.org
Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 10:59
And well, to add more choice I'll add my line of programs

Anim8or (Free)
Truespace 3.2(Free)
Truespace 5.2
Cinema 4D CE 6

And well to Add to what Big Add is saying.
Once you learn how do one thing, keep practicing, I did, and well I'm very glad I did.

Here I learnt to poly model the worlds worst head model a while back.

And I practiced quite a few times, looking at how the human face looks like and how to do it whilst practicing each time, I gradually learnt to do this, but took a few months of practice





And well learning takes time, so don't expect it to be quick, just to copy what Add was saying



Quote: "Dont try to Run before you Walk."

Good quote, pay attention to it

"I want to put a bullet through my head everytime I think of you!!!"- Slayer
KeithC
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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 16:09
It took me almost a year to learn to model half-way decently in TrueSpace/GameSpace; just like BigAdd said, with a lot of trial and error. Most people use Photoshop for their texturing, but I learned on Paint Shop Pro (although I am slowly moving into Photoshop because of it's capabilities). Making a proper UV Map was one thing that took time, and was quite aggrevating; but I learned to do it, and am glad I did.

I think there is some very good advice here for you.

-Keith

"Some people are only alive because it's illegal to kill them".
Megaton Cat
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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 16:28 Edited at: 26th Dec 2005 16:28
kk guys i wunna lern how to model any1 here has sum good totorials for me k??11

im using 3dsmax 7, maya 6 and im guna maik alot of free model paks in a few days so waiyt!!1


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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 16:32 Edited at: 26th Dec 2005 16:33
kk her it is, i decited to sell, yu can buy for $599US




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Zedane
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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 16:34
Go Megaton! You gotta go to ModellingFF12IN1DAI.COM
And if you need help make 20 threads about how you need 2d images and you will pay them back with you $50.00 game soon!


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Darkbasic MADPSP
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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 16:46
Woot did u post this because u told me it all the time on msn

Experienced DB http://www.greatgames3d.com (work in progress site)
Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 17:02
Megaton, thats has got to be the best model I've ever seen! Awesome texturing, but don't take the piss though, cos there a users who will think this thread is to flame and not to help

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Posted: 26th Dec 2005 17:03
Oh, he's very sekzy, Mega. Can I use him in the wip? we'll call him....."george"

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