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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Quake 4 models, segments, objects, textures, decals and overlays: Working!!

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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 19:40
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Ok, this is TOO cool!!
I've acctually imported Quake 4's models, segments, objects, textures, decals and overlays...

AND IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM!!

Plus my FPS fix for FPSC, it acctually looks good!!
Not as good as Quake 4 does, but it's VERY nice!!

I'll soon be releasing a Video, Screenshots and a demo...


Happy merry year... no thats not it... happy year new merry... no, not that either... Happy bless and, Ohhh... F**K it you guys know what i mean...

Origin

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FREE SPEECH FOR ALL!! but, not mod's... hahahaha!!!
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Killswitch
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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 19:58
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Screenies...?

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FPS Mastermind
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Amazing, now I just have to await some screenies.

Hey, I am a total noob to DBP, so if you would be kind enough to just help me along. I'm good with FPSC though, just learning DBP now.

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Gamerboy
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must have! fan games here we come!
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Avenging Eagle
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I have quake 4, i might try the same.

...only, you won't be able to sell the game because the models aren't under your license, they're under ID software's (or Ravern, not quite sure which).

Can't wait for the video
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GGardar
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Are the quake 4 models not hight poly how does the fpsc engine handels them ?

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Gamerboy
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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 22:41 Edited at: 7th Jan 2006 22:42
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i cant wait! i have been dying to make a quake fan game! (for free of course) the only thing is you have to put a disclamer up with the download link saying something like "I DID NOT MAKE THESE MODELS ID SOFTWARE DID YOU MAY NOT SELL ANYTHING MADE WITH THESE MODELS OR THE MODELS THEMSELVES"

wILL YOU BE REALSING THEM? PRETTY PLEASE im you cannt realse them on the forum can you email me a download link my emails gamerboy251@hotmail.com
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ultraplex
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come on orgin dont leave us in the dark...

http://www.freewebs.com/ultraplex/index.htm
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Deadwords
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Hmm, not for commercial use but really interesting for personnal use That is great.

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Gamerboy
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when will realeses/screenie day be i love th quake games but dont got quake 4 for 360 (yet) and my comp cant run it.
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Avenging Eagle
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Your screwed then because distribution of the models is illegal so Origin can't give them to you and as far as i know, 360 models differ from ones in the P.C version (formats ).

Plus, can you actually access those files on the 360?

The only reason the model work is because some of them are .lwo and can be opened in anim8or, milkshape and a whole host of other programs, then converted to .X format.

As for the textures, some of those are .tga anyway.

I extracted all the sounds from the game (all 9000 of them) and i'm using those as references for when i come to record my own.

Where's the screenies and the vids?
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Quote: "Your screwed then because distribution of the models is illegal "


illegal? wtf are you talking about? its only illegal if he charges for them. search around the web. you will find many other models from games ive seen kasumi/ayane (DOAu) masterchief (halo)goku (dbz)
and the models from F.E.A.R AND quake 4 medics realsed for garrys mod. so if this is illegal. then damn allot of peaple will be thrown in jail tonight.
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Avenging Eagle
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As far as i was concerned, unless you have ID's permission to distribute (with or without charge) then it's illegal...i think.

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Les Horribres
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You are right. Lets look at a common example (I just downloaded this hit song for free and didn't give the publisher a dime!)

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Can't wait to see what they look like in FPSC, If they look as good as the half-life 2 zombie model i'll be really pleased

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yeah show us some pics

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must see/have!
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screenies please

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Person99
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SCREENIES!!!

http://files.psycco.de/augenkrebs.swf

Illegal, but WE NEED SCREENIES ANYWAY!

If you don't wanna give us screenies, then click the link.

http://files.psycco.de/augenkrebs.swf


Now you can't call colors violent can you?
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I knew it!

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Gamerboy
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jeeze..................ITS NOT ILLEGAL READ MY LIPS! ARE SONIC FANGAMES ILLEGAL? ARE MASTERCHIEF MODELS ILLEGAL? ARE THE TRIPODES FROM WAR OF THE WORLD ILLEGAL? THE ANSER IS NO! THESES ARE NOT ILLEGAL AND IF THEY ARE SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME SOME REASONABLE PROOF!
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Silvester
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You know whats illegal?
******* you children......THATS illegal.

smuckling drugs over to another country,THATS illegal.

this is only illegal if theres nothing about them in the credits and if you sell the models.

[href]www.freewebs.com/fps-stuff[/href]
look there for all my model packs latest updtes and other stuff!
(its not old yet)
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Yeah someone actually sent this question to John Carmack, and according to his response it looks like its cool as along as you aren't doing anything commercial, I wouldn't sweat it too much. Here's what I found:

Quote: "Using id Software file formats in a publicly distributed application always seemed a little questionable to me in terms of legality. In preparation of this document I contacted id Software to resolve the issue; John Carmack was kind enough to send along this response:

"We do not legally protect the file formats, but you can't use any of the released tools, or tools derived from them (except the GPL'd Quake 1 tools) to generate content for a commercial venture. If you are writing everything yourself, no problem.""


Just unpack the .pak files with winrar and go grab an md5 importer off the web for 3ds max. It's not that hard.
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Its only ilegeal if you get caught.....

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Thats what she said.
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............................ theyre NOT ON!!!!

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Companies like ID allow modding of their games, for that reason they have to be prepared for their media and technologies to be used in other ways, be it fan games, machima, or even just using the stuff as a guide to learn from.

The only problem would be for people trying to sell a game containing ID's media, your liable to end up with at least a cease and desist order if not a lawsuit.


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You gus asked how it worked...

On my pc I get 30 fps... (My pc is a monster, I assure you...)

I reconstruated the first mission of the game with the models and the sounds from Q4...(It's kinda wierd running around at 30 fps fragging stroggs with a mp40...)

Demo as soon as Riker 9 is out...!

Peace...!!

I don't wanna fight no union!

FREE SPEECH FOR ALL!! but, not mod's... hahahaha!!!
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Can you at least show us one screenshot??

Practice makes perfect, but no ones perfect, so why bother practicing?
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Recreate a single player mission where you're on your own: Easier.

And one that doesn't have terrain.
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screenies...........................................
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WE WANT SCREENIES, WE WANT SCREENIES!
And how did we know have you even got these Quake 4 models because you don't have anything to show and you give us only an evasive answers!

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GIVE US SCREENIES OR RABID ZOMBIE WILL TEAR YOU LIMB FROM LIMB AND THEN YOU WILL BE DEAD! bawahahahahahahaha! im quite serios. Infact look out your window...................
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Quote: ""Using id Software file formats in a publicly distributed application always seemed a little questionable to me in terms of legality. In preparation of this document I contacted id Software to resolve the issue; John Carmack was kind enough to send along this response:

"We do not legally protect the file formats, but you can't use any of the released tools, or tools derived from them (except the GPL'd Quake 1 tools) to generate content for a commercial venture. If you are writing everything yourself, no problem.""
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This refers to the "file format", the .bsp or md2, and not the "3d file" or media. For example, make model in Milkshape, export as MD2 and use in game made with FPSC or DB. It does not mean, yeah go ahead and use the models from our game in yours.

Just thought I'd point that out.
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Yes Joh you're right. I should have read it more carefully.

That said, my conscience wouldn't bother me if I decided to drop a few models in my game for fun. Non-commercial of course, just for friends and family.
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Just a simple screen shot would be good!
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Just show us the god damn screenies you stingy g*t.

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orign if you dont post a screenie ALL of us can SUE you for false advertisement. and by all of us i mean EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT READ THIS! no im not BSing you. if you do not contact us someone might send a lawyer to well "talk" with you anyway estimating how many ppl read this your fines would be about 750,000,000,000 total thats about 20,000,000 a person.
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PS: my last post was a joke..........or was it.......
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Older than you think,
I'm sure that link you posted will one day cause a seizure... lol
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Gamerboy, read some law, you can't sue for false advertisment if he isn't selling anything to begin with.

And it is still illigal to rip it out of the pack and use it, unless you have a written statment from the creators saying you can.

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S+C+R+E+E+N+I+E+S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
geez man, hes probably lying.
Just trying to get us all worked up....
I'm gonna cry now...

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