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Don Malone
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If money is an issue, are there any basic 3D modelers that are suitable for creating a model of a speedway? like in the Nascar games by Papyrus or EA sports/games.

I have had a hard time wrapping my head around modeling and would just as soon focus on a modeler that I eventually would be able to use for a project of this type.

Unfortunately 3D Max is out of my price range and finances make Gamespace a tough purchase, at least for right now. I eventually want Gamespace but I don't know when it will be.

If this question is inappropriate, I apologize.

Thanks for your opinions.

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Own Dark Basic Pro and Classic
Own Milkshape
Have Wings (Not Suitable?), Truespace 3.2 and Gamespace light (Not Suitable)

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Well you can do it in all of those programs (except GS lite, because of the polycount limit) but can be a bit awkward because of the size, but is possible if you work on it, Cinema 4D is good for doing it easily, but thats out of your price range (Shame really I have a C4D tutorial on the track) unless you can spare £80, you can surely get the Cinema 4D CE+, I don't have a direct link, but you should be able to ask Maxon customer services for it. http://www.maxon.net there are no demos for the CE version, but it would be like the demo on their website without the use of the modules or plugins, and lacks most of the shaders etc. Tis what I use.

Or if not, maybe anim8or?


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Blender is a good option too. You realize tho that there is a sticky that has a list of practically every modeller and a review of it?

Explain to me why some people pay money for 3d software? Its not 3d till its been blended. wwww.blender3d.org

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Don Malone
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Posted: 16th Jan 2006 01:24
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I know (or asumed to know ) that not all modelers are useful for every situation. I did not know of limitations or missing usability that would make one application or another, unsuited for this type of work. In essence; I am not asking for a free modler, but an inexpensive modeler that has the proper tools for the job.

I know about the sticky thread and have looked at it several times, but this is not a usual issue brought up when profiling the applications abilities. I understand what you are saying though. Trust me, I don't make it a habit to ask a question everytime one pops in without doing a little forum reading first.

Thanks for the replies.
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when in doubt. Use blender. When not in doubt, switch to blender. When not even doing 3d modelling, blender can do it better.

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Don Malone
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Will static meshes from Blender export properly for use in Dark Basic Pro?

I forgot to mention I downloaded Blender but wonder about the export issues that still seem to be talked about.

Thanks for the reply.

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I hope Blender gets to the point that it is all you really need for modeling (animation and meshes) for DBP.

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It is easy now to get a UV mapped static mesh from blender to dbpro. I did it by using the default dx 8 exporter.

Explain to me why some people pay money for 3d software? Its not 3d till its been blended. wwww.blender3d.org

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That is good news.

Thanks.
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It could conceivably be done in milkshape, but definitely not my choice. Don't see any issues with using Truespace 3.2 What are your doubts with it?
Gamespace Light, not suitable because of the polygon restrictions?
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I never came to grips with the interface. Mostly from a lack of working with it. I always reverted to Milkshape for small modeling, Delgine (free) for indoor modeling, and would use Advance Terrain for outdoor landscapes; though I have not yet done an outside game.

It is just not really making time to work with one, yet.

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Anim8or is perfect for this. No animated parts. You can spin the wheels in the programming.

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You can make a track in most programs, the tricky part is going to be texturing...from past experience many 3d modellers like anim8or and truespace tend to mess up the textures when exporting to 3ds or x and importing to db.
Cinema 4D CE 6 is free...the only restriction is that you can only render to a max of 600x400. Again, I haven't managed to get textures exporting properly.

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Quote: "Cinema 4D CE 6 is free"

Only with a magazine sold two years a go, unless there are download sites, then thats a bonus I have C4D CE 6, tis a really good app


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Milkshape 3d. Cheap, easy, and can do anything Cinema 4d can do probably in less time (for you, anyway) because of the un-steep learning curve.

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Snipa Masta... Milkshape dosen't do everything from Cinema 4D

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i think he means its just as good for this paticular job.

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Ok.. because just the Material Editor of Cinema 4D is better than all Milshape...

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I want to thank you for your thoughts and opinions.

There is no consensus but a general agreement that any of the available modelers can; with the proper amount of work; do a decent job of modeling the track. That is really what I was wondering.

Since there is no clear cut front runner in the low end price range; I guess that it really is less important than I thought to try and find the best suited application for the task.

Again, thanks for your time and thoughts.

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Skalex > I mean for game modelling. Obviously Cinema 4d is better for high poly and has rendering capabilities and a better material editor (which only has a use for rendering inside the program).

And if you own Milkshape, that will do it.

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Quote: "Skalex > I mean for game modelling. Obviously Cinema 4d is better for high poly and has rendering capabilities and a better material editor (which only has a use for rendering inside the program)."


Actually....It is very good for game modelling(About equal for modelling techniques for games.), especially the animation system, as the rule in C4D is that everything is animatable and the animations are exportable, meaning you would have more realistic animations for your objects.

Plus more complex low poly objects like ships are easier I would say as you got the extra tools up your sleeve to do the fiddly bits.

But Milkshape is amazing for its value of money


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...I didn't know you could export animations from c4D to .x - what version are you using?
I'll be interested if you can
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you can, I use version 6, but the exports can be crap, but there is a plugin you can use called Xport for it


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windows paint.

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Quote: " windows paint."

Quote: "the programmer formarly known as thicko."

Formarly? nah just messing, what use will Paint be?


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