Thanks, its not exactly shapes only, it took me a week when it could have took me a day for modifying the shapes.
Quote: "(Croc (a platform game))."
I loved that game, ever heard of Croc 2 ?
as you might have guessed, I found starting a head with an octoad pretty simple. Psionic's tutorial for making zombies in ms3d is pretty challenging as he isnt so specific. Hes 1624 faces and a total of 14 objects (please notice the thumb on his left hand as i worked on that for 5 minutes !!)
In DBP - 3D is easier than 2D , 2 player is easier than Single player , Dont you think life rocks .. ?