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Julian Moors
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Posted: 18th Mar 2006 14:43
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Hey guys,

It's been a long time, but I'm back for good now. I've got myself DBPro and when I looked at some of the enhancement packs I thought BlueGUI seemed really useful, but couldn't believe you have to pay for it. So now I am dedicated to a new cause and that's to implement a free alternative to BlueGUI which I hope will have the same great features. It'll be slow going at first, but I hope to have something useable in the next few weeks. I'll keep you posted.

Peace out.
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Julian Moors
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Posted: 18th Mar 2006 19:08
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OK I have decided to call it DarkGDI and essentially it will act as an interface to Microsoft's GDI32 calls. I'll start with things simple such as Message Box's and Windows Forms and such like then progress from there. Just to remind you it will be free as in no payment needed, but NOT free as in open source.
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Posted: 18th Mar 2006 22:35
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I don't see anything wrong with someone making a buck or two out of their latest and greatest. Good luck to 'em. Although, if I wanted to make my DB-Pro games and applications to look like Windows apps, I would have probably chosen an alternative language.

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Julian Moors
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Posted: 18th Mar 2006 23:24
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Although I quite agree people should be able to make some cash if you look at Robert Knight's website you'll see he contributes to open source projects. Well if he is such an advocate then he won't mind some competition will he?
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Three Score
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The only ting i can see useful in bluegui is file dialog's and buttons(maybe) TO A GAME anyway
although writing normal applications to me is fun also IMHO

I didnt fail, I just found 10,000 ways that don't work
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Dodic
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I dont use blue gui at all.. i made a mistake buying it at the first place, but i dont mind spending some money for Rob K.


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Olby
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I dont why should we need yet another one gui? BlueGUI is wonderfull, for fo' shure!

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Oolite
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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 22:41
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this could be interesting, i'm a cheap bastard so i haven't bought Blue yet.

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Julian Moors
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Thanks for sharing guys. It seems that a free alternative would be welcomed in the DB Community and I can't wait to start on the project in the next few days. I'm unable to start it now as I'm on my ADO.NET course until Wednesday
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reflective genius
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Blue GUI is would really help me, only I can't afford it so I have to make my own buttons and stuff, it takes a long time write, and slows down the application.

Making a free version would be great, only it may stop people buying blue GUI.
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x1bwork
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Posted: 21st Mar 2006 20:25 Edited at: 21st Mar 2006 20:29
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right... and im going to make a free,new version of a crossplatform DBP with built in UNIX Sockets functionallity. really,I am.

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Julian Moors
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Quote: "Making a free version would be great, only it may stop people buying blue GUI."


I see your concern reflective genius, and the reason why I want to do this is to share stuff with the DBPro Community. I don't think people will stop buying it anyway, as there's no guarantee that I'll make a better product than him.
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harggood
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Quote: "Blue GUI is would really help me, only I can't afford it so I have to make my own buttons and stuff, it takes a long time write, and slows down the application."


I tried something different with my painting program. I put all the menu stuff into a separate program made with XBLite. The two programs communicate through the clipboard. The DBP window has nothing in it but the painting canvas. The result is very fast. XBLite is XBasic for windows. It's free, easy to use and gives you access to windows dlls so it's great for menus, and also file saving, etc. You can make dlls with it too.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/xblite/
http://www.awfuldarkforest.com/scribble.html

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i need this !! i really need this ! i would love to help you on this project ! can i help plz ?

Your signature has been erased by a mod because it's larger than 600x120....
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Chris Franklin
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Quote: "The only ting i can see useful in bluegui is file dialog's and buttons(maybe) TO A GAME anyway
although writing normal applications to me is fun also IMHO"


What about the progress bars? i use them as preloaders

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http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=71731&b=8
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Nul error
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If you can get buttons to act simular to ones used in professional programs you would get my vote. I never like some of the button code since it usualy constantly gives an output which makes toggle buttons a pain or rarely catches the command that the button is pressed and you have to press the button multiple times to get it call the function you set.
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Firewood
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To make something free is your own dissicion. And not because another program is only a buying program. If poeple wants to pay for somthing they will pay it anyway. There are also poeple who thinks: "If its good i'll pay for it." And here is one who think this way. If you make a program for free and its replace another program. Do not be shy to do so. Its not that you steel some source code from them. You did write it from the start and design it you self.

The best way for you is to make it free and ask the poeple for a contribution if they like the program and wants you to continue you work.

Never say a question is stupid. Questions not ask are stupid.
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Cypher Zero
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Posted: 18th May 2006 02:36 Edited at: 18th May 2006 02:37
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I'm all in for a free GUI application
I'd have done one myself only I don't program C++

Here's the Visual Basic Code for creating a window / button / textbox / whatever*
(Still think BlueGUI is worth the price?)



I can't imagine it's much different in C++.
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EddieB
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No, Its about the size. Thats WindowsAPI your calling.
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Mr X
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Quote: "I never like some of the button code since it usualy constantly gives an output which makes toggle buttons a pain or rarely catches the command that the button is pressed and you have to press the button multiple times to get it call the function you set."


Ive never had that problems. The function that I use work perfect, in every aspect, and is 100% dbpro code.
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Cypher Zero
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Eh, what about size?

Yes, that code is Windows API, required for loading Windows based objects such as command buttons.

I read BlueGUI does it the same way; by accessing Windows API.

(I can't see any other way really, unless you write your own objects.)
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