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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / Worth $100?

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Eponick
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Ive been messing with the Dark Basic Pro trial for a while and the 30 days are almost over.

Ive always been into programming games and I used to use C++, wich was a whole lot harder. I can do things in DBP in 50 lines that would have taken hundreds in C++.

Also, its extreemly hard to do 3D in C++ and in DBP, its simple.

I was just wondering if it was worth the $100.

So far I think it is but im asking others before I buy it.

Thanks in Advance.
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lcfcfan
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it is definatly

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HZence
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If you're a beginner, yes.

If your a professional, don't waste your time.

(My two cents)



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Eponick
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Heh, Im realy realy thinking hard about it and I want it a whole lot

Ive even made a couple little 2D games with trial version, nothing big though.

Also, I was wondering if you were allowed to sell your games made with the full version?

Because alot of Game Making tools have laws against Publishing your Games.

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HZence
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Yes you definitely are allowed. Not only that, DBP supports BSPs, which are map files that you can generate with things such as Quake and Half-Life level editors. There's no royalty to DarkBASIC Limited at all - except the money to buy the software! It's a very beautiful idea. Bamber is a genious

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Dr OcCuLt
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there is no laws stoping you form saleing game you make on DBpro but you may have to pay for uesing sum file formats ie.MP3,BSP if you sela your game.

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Eponick
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About how long does it take to ship?

Theres a 99% chance im gona get it

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HZence
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Took about 3 Days for me and i live in the states

And as far as paying for using formats such as BSP or MP3, that only depends on what you use to generate the files - some BSP editors say in their liscense agreements that you have to pay royalty to them should you use the levels in any commercial activity - I advise not using those ones Use the ones that don't require royalty.

Happy programming

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Eponick
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*scrounges up crap loads of money from all over the house*

I.E. In between the couches and stuff, not in other peoples bedrooms.. Im not a thief ^_^


*Slowly counts 2ce*

Wow, I have $113.67

Wich leaves me with didly squat after shipping..

Heh, I can get it though! And I will be among the bankrupt again! woohoo!

*Puts on a credit card*

Yeehehehe

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HZence
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You've made a wise decision man.

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QuothTheRaven
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totally worth it, no question about it. amazing product.

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randi
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Didn't I read some post where you can get it cheaper on Amazon.com?
Not sure, so don't quote me, but I think I read that.



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Chief Engineer
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i haven't been able to find it on amazon.com in the states, just the classic version.
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Dr OcCuLt
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i got it on amazon.com and it was £50



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BoB Vila
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DB or DBP?

Bobvila.com made me take off my avatar! (dunno how they found out)
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Dr OcCuLt
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DBpro i got it back in nov last year.

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TheMaster
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I think it is really cool and you should buy it! Buy then sell or show your games. I think it better than C++ or C+.

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DarkBasic Professional is worth $100 quite easily
it is an infinately powerful product which is going to be constantly improved until the next version (no doubt DarkBasic 2005 or DB .Net hehee - sorry bad joke)

for anyone professional or not, it is worth the cash ... i mean you can get DarkBasic Pro for $72 and you can get Visual C++ for $160 and to be honest, niether is a huge chunk of change for anyone with a job. Thats like 2weeks pay even on minimum wage
the true question is Are you serious enough about programming for DarkBasic Professional to be worth $100? ... if your not serious enough then it doesn't matter how much it costs really does it

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Eponick
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Serious enough?
lol..

Ive been programming since GWBasic in DOS.
Around windows 95 is when I decided I wanted to be a game programmer.

Again since the fist language I learned was GWBasic, Dark Basic would be a great choice. Thats why im going to buy it ^_^

Thanks everybody for telling me about it

*Clicks the "Click Here to Order" button*

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Mr Man
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The thing about buying DBPro on amazon, is you can only get it on the co.uk site, and they'll only ship to europe Too bad for us Americans

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Eponick
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Too late now, heh.

Ive ordered it

Yay

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MrTAToad
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Its even better value upgrading from 'Classic'

Good news everyone! I really am THAT good...
http://www.nickk.nildram.co.uk/ for great plug-ins - oh my, yes!
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Shadow Robert
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they ship to the states (^_^)
but there is a major problem buying from them right now, cause they've closed the shop for a few days.

There was an error with the site and they were selling Gameboy Advanced for £7 - lmao... god i wish i was shopping this morning

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the architect
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Dark basic is excellant. I think the fact it is simpler means more time can be spent perfecting gameplay etc

I suggest you buy it before Lee Bamber sees sense and ups the cost!

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Eponick
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Shhh*

*whispers*
Dont give him any ideas

*back to normal talk*
I ordered it this morning

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@Raven

I heard Amazon messed up earlier too.

The story i got was from Slashdot.org where they said Amazon put the HP IPAQ H1910 (RRP about £300) for sale for just over £7.32 (plus postage and packing).
It was difficult trying to get onto their site after i heard the news, i bet they were frantically checking their prices to make sure there's no more blunders

This is the item if anyone wants to see it:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008W5UT/ref=sr_aps_electronics_1_1/202-6560288-5277463

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Eponick
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That would have been nice, heh.

I would have bought like 5 of them

Then sold them to people i know for like $150

lol

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A person after my own heart...

Good news everyone! I really am THAT good...
http://www.nickk.nildram.co.uk/ for great plug-ins - oh my, yes!
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Shadow Robert
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well i heard about it on Radio1 and asked a mate who said it was handheld consoles like GBA and such

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Eponick
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Hmm, i hope DBP gets here before saturday.. Then I will have to wait till moday if it dont

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You can only hope... And just to make you feel better...

I've had mine since last year...

Good news everyone! I really am THAT good...
http://www.nickk.nildram.co.uk/ for great plug-ins - oh my, yes!
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Eponick
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How does that make me feel better? LOL



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"DB .Net"

Now, that is a TERRIFYING thought

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Dont mention it again, please.

It should be a blacklisted word

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Converting it to AUD (Australian Dollar) it makes it $179
Is it still worth it?

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NetBounty, I'm in Australia also but instead of buying it directly from Dark Basic, I'm going to get it for 50 Pounds from:

http://uk.special.reserve.co.uk/reviews/info.php?code=JL2336

Converts to something like $130 AUD and I'm pretty sure they ship to Australia as well, correct me if I'm wrong though.

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Hehe, I used to work for Special Reserve. Unlike Amazon they will ship to anywhere, just dont forget to add the non-members surcharge - um sorry, trial membership fee - to any purchase you make. It was only £1 surcharge on orders when I was there.

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1 Pound is nothing compared to the 50 odd dollars saved from buying straight from Dark BASIC lol.

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*sigh*

It didnt come today, So that means I have to wait till monday =*(

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