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FPSC Classic Models and Media / free character head model pack demo

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crow34
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 00:52 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 00:54
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ok its time to jump on the model bandwagon

heres a demo of the pack

the full pack will come with a 3ds max body with interchangeable heads all in 3ds max plus fpsc ready examples

if there is enough intrest in this ill finish it

please note this is work in progress only and the models use multiple textures

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crow34
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 00:53 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 14:04
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download removed due to the noobdem of this forum

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This is looking great crow, can't wait to see more? Keep it up.


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Wow, those are really good! How long did it take you to make them?
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Jon Fletcher
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very nice crow, and very professional

do you skin them yourself, got any tuts or tips on skin texturing?

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gps
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Quote: "Wow, those are really good! How long did it take you to make them?"


http://www.facegen.com/index.htm

'The fastest, most flexible way to create realistic faces'

My guess would be not very long at all

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Black Terror
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 03:25
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Yeah thoughs are from facegen.com. 100%.

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SpyDaniel
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Seeming its $495, I think crow has the right to sell any thing he makes with it.

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Sorry, I thought it was the program. Well, I wouldn't buy because they don't have hair and it costs another 500 bucks to add hair (to my knowledge).

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Quote: "Seeming its $495, I think crow has the right to sell any thing he makes with it."


True enough, assuming he also has the $995 redistribution license which confers ownership of the FaceGen model data. I just thought I'd mention it as the FaceGen people are notoriously keen when it comes to protecting their property.

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How much would that be in American denominations? Can we use it in commercial games?

Good job. However, with the black guy, we'll only be able to use the head if he have black body parts (hands, arms) on the model's body.

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Jon Fletcher
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hey, i think im gonna check out that program, looks nice

scratch my question on the texturing then, unless you can provide soemthing

Quote: "and it costs another 500 bucks to add hair (to my knowledge)."


well, you can export the model, so you dont HAVE to spend much to add hair, you could do it in a different program to model the hair

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crow34
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 07:47 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 07:51
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yes its true i have put facegen modeller on my credit card and i am paying it off and yes i have designed a body in 3ds max to target weld the heads on to

but why is it when all i want to do is work on some photofit heads to get them in to game

some tosser comes along and says

that facegen modeller that

honestly who the frick cares if i can get it in to the game and it looks professional and the media the facegen modeller creates is a mesh generated from my own photos

i cant see the problem

i also owm 3dmenow before it when bust to biovision you wanna rag on that as well?


i guess things are turning worse on this forum

ps i seem to miss the quote i made saying

Quote: "i took me hours in this modelling program"


oh thats right i dident say that nob
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 09:12 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 09:13
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Quote: "but why is it when all i want to do is work on some photofit heads to get them in to game some tosser comes along and says that facegen modeller that"


I mentioned FaceGen because you didn't, which seemed slight disingenuous to me.

Quote: "honestly who the frick cares if i can get it in to the game and it looks professional and the media the facegen modeller creates is a mesh generated from my own photos"


Singular Inversions (the makers of FaceGen) will care very much unless you've purchased a Re-Distribution license.


Legal

Images, video and sculpture rendered using FaceGen models are yours to sell or distribute.

FaceGen '.fg' files are yours to sell or distribute.

If you want to sell or distribute the 3D models themselves - for instance as part of a software product - you need a Re-Distribution License.


If you have the Re-Distribution license charged to your credit card as well, then all is good. It's an easy (and expensive) point to overlook though, so I just thought I'd mention it to be on the safe side.

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Want a lightsaber crow? You might feel better after wacking peoples heads off with it.

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Quote: "Singular Inversions (the makers of FaceGen) will care very much unless you've purchased a Re-Distribution license"


yes thankyou gpscreation i have purchased the redistrubition licence as

thanks for once again pointing out the obvious

i am a grow up boy now i can purchase anything i want

you know

and since when have you been working for singular inversion?

also gpscreations i pressuming that is your company name

however i cant seem to find gpscreations listed in companys house for the uk

which means either a few things

your running a fake company which your breaking forums rules

your running a company fraudelently which means your breaking the law

or your just full of it

choose one
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@Crow
Technically, he’s not breaking forum rules by running a company, though he would be if he where posting Team Requests for his fake company. Now, before I start ranting, let me say this: I like your work Crow, and seeing how much FaceGen is, assuming, of course, that you bought it(and the license), and the fact that you'll include a body, is making me think about buying it.

Frankly, it annoys the HECK out of me when I see people saying "I'm only going to do a bit so it's still legal." Besides the obvious possibillity of lawsuit, there's also ethical concerns, and 'the golden rule'. If you made a Huge Super-Great software package, or even a small FPSC model pack with a couple of guns or something, You wouldn't want people to use it Illegaly(wether by cracking it, or not purchasing the correct license.) would you? Just so you now, this isn't aimed at you, but at all those people that seem to have no respect for the legal side of Game Dev.

@Higgins

you seem rather ticked off, he was only pointing out the obvious.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 16:39
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Yeah code, I was really angery, I just kicked a few of my walls down in my house.

I wasnt angery, I was saying crow has the right to sell what he makes, because hes bought face gen. I also can be sarcastic alot, and it seems to work on a lot of people here.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 17:31 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 17:38
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Quote: "@Crow
Technically, he’s not breaking forum rules by running a company, though he would be if he where posting Team Requests for his fake company"


every legal company business in the uk has to be registered with

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/

in order to trade

i have paid a lot of money for a software package to use as for cracking the software i am thick in that respect and would not know where to start

i was just trying to bring something to this community that this community would enjoy

and one thing i hate is people prying i never claimed i had written the software i had never claimed i modelled the heads my self

and i hate it when people throw the third degree at me

so i was giving gpscreation a taste of his own medicine

because there is no unrule on the forum that all modelling should be in max or milkshape

and it has annoyed me this because this now prevents me doing what i was doing because everybody else will now have the same idea thus nobody would have purchased my model pack even after i spent all after modelling a body for the heads as everybody will go out now and either just crack the software or purchase it themselves and it it them selves

as we are all aware of the level of piracy on this forum due to certain nameless users uploading the fpscreator to torrent sites

and yes we know who you are uploaders

this is why i am bloody annoyed

and as for anything else if gpscreation is trading with out being registered with companys house fake company or not that is against the law
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So you're not going to make the model pack?
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Quote: "So you're not going to make the model pack?"


no !!
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mhmm...would of been nice if you made the model pack. I'd helpus all alot...and you peerhaps for some money! But I geuss I'll just buy the software. Goodl uck with what ever your doing though

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 22:28 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 22:28
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Ah well, that's what I get for trying to be tactful round here...

Crow, I'll admit when I saw your post and looked at the screenshot, my first thought was that a well-meaning community member had downloaded the FaceGen demo and figured there was no harm in create a few head meshes and selling/giving them away. I drew this conclusion because I'm used to forum members who grumble about paying $10 dollars for a media pack, baulk at the idea of spending $30 on shareware modelling software, and who could only get their hands on a credit card if they borrowed it from their parents.

It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking that everyone here is about 14 years old, and has far more enthusiasm than cash, so you'll have to forgive me for being phased at someone being prepared to spend $1500 on software. It's not the sort of thing that happens around here too often.

Code Master seems to be the only one who got it - I was just trying to make sure that nobody here was unwittingly getting themselves into any copyright-related bother.

BTW, 'GPS Creations' is just me - I'm GPS, I create things. I'm an artist so I made myself a logo to use as a sig. I don't run a business or company of any kind - I give my stuff away, I don't sell it.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 00:41 Edited at: 18th Apr 2006 00:46
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i have just finished off paying 3ds max so i thought it was time for my next purchase i am not rich every thing i get goes on the card its my money and ilike to spend it on what i want because i enjoy my hobby

i dont drive so it like buying a car

however apology accepted

but i cant finish this pack now as it is no longer unique as anybody can do the same now

which would result in a stagnet model pack making no sales

Quote: "Ah well, that's what I get for trying to be tactful round here"


not everybody is a pirate round here some of us do pay for our software!!!

the whole package cost me 850 pound which is a lot better than what i paid for 3ds max a long time ago
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Quote: "i cant finish this pack now as it is no longer unique as anybody can do the same now"


What do you mean, anybody can do the same? Not all of us have $1500 like you to buy FaceGen. Since you have the re-distribution license, you have every right to sell these models. You paid that much for the software and the license to distribute them, so you might as well sell a few of the models you make.
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I honestly see no need for all this hassle, i am going to state what facegen purpose is:

Making Heads and using them, EASILY.

What does that tell us? that this program is meant to be used for these purposes, and they wouldnt sell it if you werent allowed to do what you will with them

I would like to mention another program alike:

FPS Creator.

we are no better, and if you think "hard work" must be done, go off and write thousands of lines of code for your own engine with C++

Im glad this program was mentioned, because thats what we want to develop, easier methods of doing things, thanks crow

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