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FPSC Classic Models and Media / Free 3D software. Not a trial version!!!

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Nue B
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Posted: 20th Apr 2006 19:26
This program is as close as you can get to 3D Max without crapping out $3,000 USD or any money for that matter! Just download and register it and its all free! No 30 day limitations. Model, animate, import .3ds files, texture and more! you can do it all with this program. I'm sure some of You may have heard of it, but for those who haven't here's the link.

http://www.turbosquid.com/gmax

But wait, There's more!!!!

Here's a link where you can find some cool 3D models you can download. some may have usage restrictions so read any "ReadMe files" most are in .3ds format so you can convert them into .x if you know how.

http://www.3dcafe.com/wrapper/

Have fun!

blaqueboi@sbcglobal.net

Nue B. or not Nue B. That is the question.
ak470000
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Posted: 20th Apr 2006 20:38
Can it export in directx format?
code master
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Posted: 20th Apr 2006 23:00
Yes, I think it can. But, there's one problem. Nue B, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but it's ilegal to sell models made in Gmax in any way, including as part of a game, Unless it's for one of the games that are Gmax enabled. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's true.

"I don't bite her, i just slobber on her" "I remember things as well as a retarded goldfish, who just swam through the chicago river"

Jon Fletcher
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Posted: 20th Apr 2006 23:34
i think gmax is primarily for game modding, and what code master stated above is true...

-Jon


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Black Terror
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 00:01
Who cares. It is still awsome.

Thanks for the link

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code master
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 00:14
Quote: "Who cares."


What?! You don't care? You know this means you can only use it for freeware games(or mabye not even).

uh... yes.

"I don't bite her, i just slobber on her" "I remember things as well as a retarded goldfish, who just swam through the chicago river"

phil17
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 02:10
This software is really good. Thanks alot for your post.
Also how could they tell if you used theyre program for your games anyways?
And seriously could they ever find out?
code master
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 02:16
Don't matter if they ever find out. Lot's of us fourmers would flame you to death if we ever found out. Plus, it's a violation of self to use illicit stuff.

"I don't bite her, i just slobber on her" "I remember things as well as a retarded goldfish, who just swam through the chicago river"

phil17
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 03:08
Im sure alot of the people on here use alot of illegal stuff may it be music, games etc.....so i doubt they would have a probelm with this lol.
"Lot's of us fourmers would flame you to death if we ever found out"
I would think the number would be small

Im not saying i do illegal stuff but many people do, and i doubt that the terms and conditions of this software will be upheld for the most case anyways.
Nue B
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 04:26
This is a great program that I used to build my 3D modeling, texturing, and animation skills. If I ever BUY 3D max, I'll know exactly how to use it.

Nue B. or not Nue B. That is the question.
Mr Love
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 04:41
Many professionals have used Gmax to make models for their games, If You are lucky You might find the X-exporter-plugin on internet....
But to be hounest I think Anim8or is the best free 3D editor by far!


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phil17
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 05:56
I might try that program Mr Love as i need a free 3d editor that has alot of good tutorials lol. maybe that has what i need?

People download stuff
phil17
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 06:04
Just to show you guys i was able to make with this software.
Level map with building-->approx 30 mins.
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9671/gmaxscreenie17gv.jpg
Alien head--> not complete-->approx 25 mins.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7189/gmaxscreenie25gw.jpg

I made these follow there great tutorials.
Note: I am a complete noob at 3D so this software is good lol.
FredP
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 06:18
Try DeleD Lite.
No piracy.
I care.
I would rather make or have crappy models that were honestly made than stolen models.
If you read the threads in this forum you will see we catch theives pretty quick around here.
If a model has been posted somewhere someone has seen it.
You will get caught and you will be flamed.
There are several other free or low cost model editors.
And I bet Autodesk would sue in a heartbeat over this.
I am sure the majority of our forum members are going to be offended by some of the posts in this thread.
We have truly reached a new low.

FLA
We are all noobs at something!
Silver Shot
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 06:52
I has returned, the Turbosquid site about gmax is now recognized as the official site for it, or at least the forums are now the official support. Did you click the link it gave you, taking you to Discreet (AutoDesk)?
http://www.discreet.com/products/gmax/

Unless I'm mistaken, Turbosquid is still allowed to have this up. If not, I'm sorry for posting this. I don't want to seem like I am ignorant, nor do I want to seem like I am a jerk.

Try eBay. You can get great stuff like Maya Complete for lower costs. If it is a pirate copy, notify eBay... You may loose your shipping, (I don't know eBay's policy) but you help others out. Look for older versions of commercial software, as well.

Finally, try stuff such as Yahoo!Search's Creative Common's Search. With that, you can find free, low cost, or anything that can be used commercially by limiting results. Also try other popular free 3D modeling softwares.

If you are good enough but your software that you used allows no commercial usage and people who use it for free games like it, you could possibly ask for donations on your site, which could aid in getting enough money for a decent-good commercially usable product. I'm eventually going to try and get my hands on a copy of AutoDesk's Maya; the Complete version. For now, I am using the Maya PLE, which allows all of the full featured features of complete, except for a few saving/exporting file extensions and some non-compatability with plug-ins designed for Complete.
bond1
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 07:38
This is probably the reason why Autodesk decided to officially stop offering and supporting Gmax.

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My FPSC stuff at http://hyrumark.zftp.com/FPSC/hyrumarkfpsc.htm
Les Horribres
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 13:20 Edited at: 21st Apr 2006 13:20
I just would like to say that I totally opose this, and would like you to look over yourself as a individual. You claim that lots of people use illigal stuff, that is not true for everyone. What it really means is that you are a pirater and can not see why anyone wouldn't be.

But besides that, you should put this in the 'general' forum. (Rich calls it Geek Culture) Models and Media is like the showcase, the stuff you made goes here. Besides, more people go to the 'Geek Culture' forum then here, so you can spread your message further.

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Plague
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 14:29
Besides what is wrong with piracy? Just because we don't want to waste our money on something doesn't mean you guys have the right to "flame" us. Also if companies actually want to sell a $3000 program you think they'd have the sense to make it hard to crack. Another point i want to make is that knowledge should be free not locked away its just not right.

Good artist copy, great ones steal.
-Steve Jobs-
Benjamin A
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 15:08 Edited at: 21st Apr 2006 15:24
Honestly, some of you should be banned from this forum instantly..... promoting piracy, be ashamed of yourselves.

Quote: "Many professionals have used Gmax to make models for their games, If You are lucky You might find the X-exporter-plugin on internet.... "

In the past, you could use GMax for commercial projects also.... as long as you paid a licensing fee, which allows you to you use GMax for one commercial project only. You had to purchase a feee for each project. That's why some professionals have used GMax, but they paid good money for it. I'm pretty sure that policy hasn't changed.

Bored of indoor? Add outdoor to your FPSC games!
http://www.aeilkema.dds.nl/mega/index.html
Need music for your games? Check the above link also!
code master
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 16:44 Edited at: 21st Apr 2006 16:44
@Plauge

We have the right to flame you whether or not you pirate software. It's our personal choice. While we may be banned for pointless flaming, We still do it when it's needed

"I don't bite her, i just slobber on her" "I remember things as well as a retarded goldfish, who just swam through the chicago river"

phil17
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 18:06
I am not promoting piracy im just stating the obvious...many people do download programs illegally .
Piracy is wrong.

lilgamz
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 18:24
just out of curiousity, how would they know you created the models with gmax?

how can they prove it?
code master
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 18:46
I think it embeds some info in the model file, designating it as a Gmax model.

"I don't bite her, i just slobber on her" "I remember things as well as a retarded goldfish, who just swam through the chicago river"

Pulsar Coder
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 18:53
If I remember well, Gmax is a modified version of MAX 4 w/o, among other featrues, the rendering module.

Although it has been discontinued -not longer updated- and you can import & export from/to a few 3D formats, it is still a very handy "proxy" to learn Max.
lilgamz
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 19:18
i can open 3ds models with it but it doesnt seem to export it. just gmax files.

is there a way to get from gmax to .x or 3ds?
Conjured Entertainment
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 19:21
Nue B never said anything about selling the models or games with the models.
Nor did he suggest, in any way, that anyone break the Software's License.

Thanks for the link Nue B.
This is good software.


Don't forget to visit Conjured Entertainment
FredP
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 19:22
"What is wrong with piracy?"
You just don't get it.
First,it's illegal.
Secondly,if companies didn't have to spend all sorts of cash trying to keep pirates from stealing their programs they would be cheaper.
Third,it is a question of ethics.
If you steal a model,even if no one catches you,you still stole it.
It is wrong,period.
Because someone doesn't want to "waste our money" on something does not give them the right to steal a program any more than they have the right to come into your house and steal your personal property.
If someone didn't want to waste their money on a computer you must think it is okay to steal yours.
Hell,no.
You would call the police.
I am sure Autodesk made the program hard to crack.
Maybe you have heard of hackers?
Even that does not justify stealing a program.
There are free and low cost 3D modeling programs.
What is wrong with piracy?
When someone steals your work and claims it for your own you will understand.
But I doubt it.
This thread should be locked.

FLA
We are all noobs at something!
phil17
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 20:58
People seem very wound up on this thread.
Mr Love
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 22:20 Edited at: 21st Apr 2006 22:21
this pisses me off. all of the non-programmers here dont get it.

If i were to find someone around here distributing E.C.S> pro, i would be very angry, not for the money i lost, but for stealing a copy of my program.

...

{edited for lack of professionalism)

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I has returned:
Try DeleD Lite. No piracy.

DeleD Lite is a map-editor if You didnt know!


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Sunflash
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 22:36
Quote: "Im sure alot of the people on here use alot of illegal stuff may it be music, games"


Oh thats right, ok guys, other people are disobeying the law, so it must be ok! j/k. See how stupid that sounds?

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Les Horribres
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 23:48
@Plague, I do agree. But the compiled exe is not knowledge. The actual CODE is the knowledge, and even then they can disassemble the code and that would be the perfect way of distributing 'knowledge'. You see, you have to have a brain between your ears to understand the REAL concepts of information freedom.

Lots of idiots say that the fully compiled programs are information that you can use, they aren't. There is nothing you can learn FROM the compiled program in terms of information about the program, yeah, you can see it run, but not anything else.

Next you'll say music should be free, well, music is a compiled version of the score and lyrics. You SHOULDN'T be paying for the song, you should be paying for the way the song is playied and sung. Any band can preform a copyrighted song. Its been done many times before, and some people even put up MP3's of their band doing it. Piracy? No, that is copyright infringment.

And that is what needs to go, copyrighting something is just the way people create monopolies. I agree with TRADEMARKING, but if you invent a new way to make paper that uses 30% less tree, the 'buisness' you are doing could be deemed extortion to the environment. You are helping yourself the wrong way.

Now, in a better world, you wouldn't sell your idea, you would be the one implementing it. It is like that old saying... "I am not a rocket scientist", you are the one who best knows it and best understands the new technology. You will have more power as a contributer then as a one time seller.

Now please, don't give the concept a bad name, it is truly a good concept when you get down to it, Copyrighting only came into play because of the scarcity of manufaturing companies. And sometimes people who complain about copyright infringment are people who never cared in the first place.

Hording information only results in a nation of idiots. You can have 50 groups working on a cure for a common ailment, but they would never confir with each other, they would never share data. It is just a race, not for the cure, but for the benifits you would reap for possessing this cure.

Do you know, research into genitics is impeeded due to many corporations 'buying stock' into the genome? Randomly patenting genes or sections of the genome just to make money from the people who research it. The sad part is, these corporations aren't even genetics based, many of them don't even know what they patented, they just sit back and sue anyone who uses 'their' gene.


Quote: "Im sure alot of the people on here use alot of illegal stuff may it be music, games etc.....so i doubt they would have a probelm with this lol.
"Lot's of us fourmers would flame you to death if we ever found out"
I would think the number would be small

Im not saying i do illegal stuff but many people do, and i doubt that the terms and conditions of this software will be upheld for the most case anyways."


Phil, you are blatantly saying that piracy will go by undetected. And that there are a lot of pirates. I don't care what you say NOW, your comment specifically makes it sound like no one loses anything, and that no one cares.

Heck, you even go so far to imply that only the stupid people don't pirite. Yes, you don't directly state it, but you did say that there are a lot of pirates and few honest Abes. Either you see the world at your hands, being a pirate. Or you see the world out of control, being a pessimist.

But let me tell you what I say constantly, if you are the pirate, beware of what you download. Those downloads can be tagged by law enforcement, and once you download they can find who you are.
The can even enter an illigally distributed download and record the people downloading it, the naivity that goes on is unbelievable.
You think you are free online? You're not, although each 'district' might only have a 'few' people browsing the webs, be assured that the number adds up. Monitoring all kinds of activity, mainly in chatrooms as that is where alot of the fish are.

And to the first that decides to be naive about the power of the law, please, go read a book.

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2006 00:23
unfortunatly ...no matter what is said here,piracy of software will always happen.
because of this the honest users will have to pay more for the software.
piracy is theft,just like stealing a car or breaking into a house and nicking the tv,you think it doesnt hurt anybody,big comapnys pay out a lot of money to make the software you use, if they dont bring back £x then they may not be able to stay aflaot,this may require some staff being laid off,but will definatly make the next peice of software they write more expensive........by saying ( or leading us to believe) that you are going to use a peice of software illegally you should be removed from this forum.

the programmer formarly known as thicko.
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2006 00:48 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2006 00:50
Quote: "Besides what is wrong with piracy"

@Plague

I'll remember that when I steal everything you make, reverse engineer it, slap my brand on it and resell it as my own.

pwned by karma

Nue B
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2006 18:17
Quote: "I think it embeds some info in the model file, designating it as a Gmax model."


There's no information embeding with GMAX. I've checked the binary files with C++ just sturcture and texture information. the thing is with the download there's no 3ds export. so You'll have to find your own ways of converting to .x It's not hard.

Nue B. or not Nue B. That is the question.

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