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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Interesting screenie....

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xplosys
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 00:41
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This is an actual screenie from the forums. It's actually two pages spliced together and resized to fit here. It went on to a third page, but I think you will get the idea.

Check the far right column. (Last Post @)

Anyway, I just thought it was interesting. I got bored.

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Les Horribres
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 00:45
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Yep... The Dark Side is taking over!

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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 03:40
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I like the new screen!

The dark side meets the very intelligent highly sophisticated noob!

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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 04:01
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I think the Bug-thread was just a waste of time. TGC wont fix the bugs in V1 anyway. But maybe V1 owners can buy V2 cheaper when it comes! (If it comes, Maybe it is a conspiracy LOL!)


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Les Horribres
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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 04:28
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They will, but they will make new bugs in the process

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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 04:58
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This is what I don't understand.
People want a product.In this case FPSC and they want it now.
Then when they get it there are bugs.
This is not unusual when a product first comes out.
Add to this that they probably rushed it out to keep the masses happy and this is the predictable result.
I think TGC or a FPSC developer will provide an upgrade.
It comes down to these two questions:
1. Can you find any other point-and-click fps creator period let alone one for the cost of FPSC.
2. Since this is obviously a program in development do we want to assist in its growth or bury it.
If we work together as a communtiy there is no limit to what we can do.
If you told me twenty years ago that we would have all this technology i would not have believed it.
Just some things to think about.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 05:10
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Well, for some reason TGC dont WANT save and load in FPSC! I know the reason, but I wont tell You why...


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Okay.I am sure that they don't.Don't you think that a save/load feature would help their sales.That doesn't make a lot of sense.
It is not good for business and I am sure they are trying to make money.
They ran out of time.It is that simple.
Eventually they will have some kind of save/load function to add on to FPSC.It will boost their sales.
There are a number of features and commands that don't work because they ran out of time.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 05:51
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Yeah... it is Riker 9 they don't want... will hurt v2 sales.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 07:07
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I agree with OnePost. TGC certainly wants save/load. I'm sure they want as many features as possible.

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 17:53
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Hey my old post is in there im famous

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 18:11
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@Merranvo/Onepost:

They DO want Riker9. Why? Is it too hard to understand that they want to show the community that any one man can modify fpsc? It would be a showcase mod, attracting more people from other communities, now thinking they can modify fpsc to do anything they wish.

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 19:37
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Two interesting points of view there.

>>http://kwgamestudios.proboards62.com Forum<<

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 22:36
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It would also prove a good selling point if CB ever decides to counter FPSC, but the fact is
a) No one would think they can mod it because most people here are too lazy to read a book. They will view CB as a 'smart guy' and themselves as idiots. A few of the DBP'rs might come over, but even then, those DBP'rs would be the younger generation. I would personally believe that you would rather make your own engine to what you need then to mod an existing engine and deal with the problems that pursue.
b) If there is a Riker9 mod, then that would mean that any modifications to the FPSC code that is released by TGC will have to either.
i) Counter Riker9
ii) Incorporate Riker9
and if CB doesn't upload the source to TGC, they can not claim property rights. Even if CB releases the source, he can release it under conditions. If he doesn't, TGC can be merry, if he uploads it to a TGC server, TGC can 'steal' it from him.
c) It will make TGC look really bad, of course the time CB has worked on this affects that... but it also depends on how the perspective is turned.
look at it as a man who has 2 jobs and is going to college, fixes the errors in 6months and you will wonder why TGC didn't do it in 6 days.
However, if you look at it from a purely time perspective, then it doesn't hurt TGC as much.

Either Way, UNoob, what will happen depends on what people know, and what CB will do.

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 23:02
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@One Post,

Quote: "b) If there is a Riker9 mod, then that would mean that any modifications to the FPSC code that is released by TGC will have to either.
i) Counter Riker9
ii) Incorporate Riker9"


I don't think anything that CB does, or anyone else for that matter, will have any affect on what TGC does next with FPSC. Every game that ever hit the market has been mod'ed. While those mods are almost always welcome by the manufacturer because they create more sales and interest, they seldom have any affect on the original product.

You are assuming that TGC needs CB's code to upgrade their product. I believe that TGC is well capable of doing everything that CB is doing, and more, and when they are ready, they will not need help to improve or add to the program.

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 23:11
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Read my post carefully,
Quote: "Counter Riker9"


And this isn't a game mod, it is an engine mod. If someone has a superior engine then the one avialiable you damn well better have that type of power in the next release.

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 23:28
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Yes, I'm sure that they are very worried about it.

Again, you are thinking that the decisions they make will be based on what CB does. Your world is very small, I guess.

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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 00:06
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Sorry but OnePost is right, if Cb releases his Riker 9 for free and it includes lots of improvements, and then TGC release V2 with less improvements and sells it, who do you think is going to see more distributions?

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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 00:24
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Wow.... Ok.

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TGC better be worried about it.A lot of customers and FPSC users are understanding that V1 was the first full release so we are trying to be laid back about it.

If they release a subpar update or don't release an update ther goes their sales.You can say what you want about TGC but the fact is they run a business and they know it's not good business to do that.

If would be nice if TGC releases a patch or gives us an update,etc. It would be nice if Cellblock would too.They don't answer to us.

Basic math says that if CB's app is free and TGC charges for a patch people are going to get CB's upgrade.I don't think TGC will charge for a patch.They would charge for FPSC V2 (if such a thing will ever be released) but that would not come out until next year.
V1 was just released.Maybe we need to sit back and wait...

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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 02:20
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Why would they be worried? You still have to buy fpsc, and when people see this awesome mod, they will buy fpsc. Then tgc can just raise base price of the product, and/or get a deal with cb. Merranvo did make some good points, but he is making tgc look unable to do anything...

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Quote: "Why would they be worried? You still have to buy fpsc, and when people see this awesome mod, they will buy fpsc. Then tgc can just raise base price of the product, and/or get a deal with cb."

Very good point... use a community mod as an additional selling point, any bad reviews FPSC already had would be reanalysed, and in essance, FPSC begins anew. Of course any editor errors will still, unfortunatly, exist.

Quote: "but he is making tgc look unable to do anything..."

I did not mean to do that, what I was trying to convey was that they would have to do MORE, instead of mearly adding a save/load and selling an update, they will have to match what Riker 9 can do... be it an update, or the next version.

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