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Dark GDK / I hope

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AlbertoT
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Posted: 5th May 2006 23:42
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From editorial may 06

...beyond that we plan to release an upgrade to the Dark Game Development Kit that will incorprate the U6 (and 6.1) changes.

I do really hope that Game creator slowed down sdk development waiting for the new 6.0
It would be a pity otherwise
I can not really understand why DarkGame SDK was not succesfull
(if so)
It is so superior vs DarkBasicPro
Are you scared about C++ '
A DarkBasicPro programmer takes 2 months , no more, to switch to C++

Alberto
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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 6th May 2006 00:08 Edited at: 6th May 2006 00:08
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If they slowed down SDK development any more, it would be going backwards...

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CattleRustler
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Posted: 6th May 2006 00:34
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I assume it will be updated now because of the updates to dbp 6, and there is a .net wrapper coming so c++ needn't be the only language you use the dgsdk from.

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Hows it goin', by the way ?

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CattleRustler
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Posted: 6th May 2006 01:31
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the wrapper is done but there are a few other items that need doing. Apex has been under the weather the past few days. All in all, its going well. Hope to see him back on his feet soon.

Thanks for asking

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Thats okay - hope it goes well.

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Red Ocktober
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get that .NET wrapper going and this is one i'll have to license for sure...

get well soon Apex... (not just because of the coding stuff )

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Artus
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Posted: 6th May 2006 08:42
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Quote: "we plan to release an upgrade..."

The questions are : will the plan come to execution, and when...
Yes, let's hope.

By the way, what are ApexNow and CattleRustler wrapping ? The old 1.1.1 version, or have TGC made a beta of the "planned" upgrade available to them ?
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CattleRustler
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Posted: 6th May 2006 15:02 Edited at: 6th May 2006 15:04
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The wrap is on the current dgsdk. apex made it an automated process so if the libs change (as in an update) he can re-run the process against the new files to update the wrapper for .net

but actually this is way off topic for this thread and we should be having these discussions in the dgsdk.net thread. (sorry, my fault)

back on topic...

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Mike Morcilla
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Posted: 6th May 2006 18:47
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(Please note that I'm talking about the situation here, not about Mike Johnson)

Mike Johnson posted: 2nd Jun 2005 about beta upgrade 1.1.1 :
Quote: "Please report any problems in this thread and I can work through any fixes and upload a new beta. I will also be working on updating the help files and the demos provided with the SDK"


Errors reported about shaders, no new beta, no release version.

Mike Johnson posted: 3rd Jan 2006
Quote: "There will be an update soon enough and I can only apologise that it hasn't come sooner but rest assured we are on the case"


Mike Johnson posted: 1st Feb 2006
Quote: "Will be a new version of the SDK coming soon bringing it in line with the latest version of DB Pro"


Was latest the 5.9 at that time? Never mind. Now here we are three months later, and TGC is "planning to do something".

I hope too, AlbertoT, just hoping and a little bit
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MiR
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Posted: 6th May 2006 21:59
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It is becomming worrying. Though I´m sure the extra time taken on patch 6 may have caused the SDK to slip back. Not to mention the physics add on has totally changed engine meaning that the main guy behind the SDK (Mike) is now even more ocupied with the physics add on.
Something I´ve been wondering though is whether the SDK´s help file will be the new look DBPro one or the old one. I hope when creating the new DBPro one they thought about us.

Need path finding in your games? Have a look at the tutorials on www.telefonica.net/web2/paskyprog/.
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My assumption would be that since TGC uses C++ (I hope) to build the engine, why wouldn't they want the SDK developers to test it first? It can't be that much of a leap to get the sdk ready. This can go on while they are preparing the patch for DBP.
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kamelito
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To me, its abvious that the DarkGame SDK is not a top priority for TGC.
Not yet maybe, it may change in the near future...

I suppose that others dev tools generate more money, if you look at the TGC hompepage only FPS Creator, Darkbasic Pro, 3D game maker and Darkbasic are highgly visible...

But I would say that our money is equal to others and so as TGC costumers we need support.
If not then it should be clearly stated and we'll shift to others tools often free but not as simple to use.

TGC team are you listening to us ? To me its the last attempt to get something before swtiching to another tool.

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Posted: 10th May 2006 17:36
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I believe they are in the process of updating the sdk to be in-line with dbp 6

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LeeBamber
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Posted: 12th May 2006 00:51 Edited at: 12th May 2006 00:52
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I have stayed up well past my bedtime, but I will answer this thread as I feel DGSDK users deserve a hint of an update. The situation as it stands is that I have just got back from a short holiday, and will be releasing a quick U6.1 update for some compiler and very select bugs, and then working a good deal on the new help system contents. It has probably been the biggest request after U6, so I am taking the challenge seriously and preparing a whole new layout for the command pages and fleshing them out with much better parameter descriptions and extended explanations of the tricker/powerful commands. As there are over a thousand of them, fleshing out the help text will take some time (but not as long as you might think). I have some other duties to perform as well, but when the help system is done, and the subsequent trial version has been prepared, I can put my DBP toolkit down for a brief period and prepare the long awaited GDK update, which you might be pleased to learn will include additional Visual Studiio 2005 LIBS. I cannot say for sure when this will be released, but hopefully knowing the order of my tasks will help. Remember to post your GDK related bugs to the bug base, as I will be looking there before final final release of the GDK!

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Miguel Melo
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Posted: 12th May 2006 12:02
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Thanks for the feedback Lee. It's good to get the confirmation that 2005 support will be there.

However, I cannot read into your post a timeframe any shorter than 2 (or even 3) months *sigh*

I have vague plans for World Domination
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Indeed - its a shame...

But it does give me time to start detailing a game I want to do.

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enablerbr
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Posted: 12th May 2006 16:15
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pity they can't throw in darkphysics into the pot. oh well as long as this doesn't get forgotten again.
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Posted: 13th May 2006 03:26
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w000T

Thank you Lee!
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