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Les Horribres
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Posted: 30th May 2006 05:07
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I feel that I should once again ask you to kindly help in the update of Revial: Teh FAQ. As Ben A clearly stated that the whole thing should be replaced I expect at least 10 revisions from him.



To ATTEMPT to gather more then the pathetic attempt last time I have made a more interesting title and am allowing you to post anything, regardless of you making it or not. I don't care if it is already posted either, so don't bother looking though the 4 posts that will probally reach this thread.

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Fixes (that you know of to common issues)
Applications (I am including the Level Loaders now... [the ones I find I am including if you don't post here])
Tutorials
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Well, you should know what to post... Looking forward to 30 views and 1 suggestion.

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Posted: 30th May 2006 08:08
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AE has a tutorial at the top of the page with some info in it.
Bullshock's "Everything you ever wanted to know about scripting" tutorial,Bond has done a UV mapping tutorial that is in models and media.
www.OzarkGames.com has FPSC resources.
As far as apps go there are Signs II/III,Magic FPS,ECS Pro,Weapon Creation System EA as well as Weapon Creator beta.
Also,there is Game Cover 2 and Decal Maker.
Higgins,Jon Fletcher,and Keith C all have model packs for sale.
AE has a crosshair pack for sale.
There is also Gravematter.
I am sure there are others as well.This is just off the top of my head.

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Benjamin A
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Posted: 30th May 2006 09:30 Edited at: 30th May 2006 09:34
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You know I'm not going to give you 10 revisions, as long as you don't take out the Riker9 stuff. I'm not going to support any thread that promotes Riker9 in one way or another.

Perhaps we should enlighten you a little, but Riker9 is now under a NDA, which means CellBlock himself isn't going to release it anymore. From the little he has told us, it sounds like TGC is now continuing the project. It looks like his work will be incorporated in the next official update, at least that's what he makes it sound like. As usual CB is behaving very mysterious about it, so we really got no clue at all. I'm not willing to support or add stuff to a thread that supports any mindware.

So, don't expect any help from me in the FAQ as long as you refuse to take out a reference to stuff that no one can proof. People don't need to know about that.

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Posted: 30th May 2006 14:13
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Duke Blue Devil has 2 utilities that he is working on currently as well. One for entities, and one for weapons; I believe.

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Posted: 30th May 2006 19:22
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Quote: "You know I'm not going to give you 10 revisions, as long as you don't take out the Riker9 stuff. I'm not going to support any thread that promotes Riker9 in one way or another."

Yes, I knew that... that that is primarily why I put it up there. From your aggressive complaint posted on the FAQ Thread (Which I REALLY did not appreciate) it occurred to me that your ONLY problem with my FAQ was the fact that Riker9 was mentioned.

Now let me point out a few things, if CellBloc is underi a Non-Disclosure Agreement because TGC is using his code, how is it mindware? That contradicts your entire argument. Mindware is apparently telling people that you will give them something so that you can laugh at them when you don't. If anything this confirms that more progress has been made then originally thought.

Finally, The most popular book is the Bible... the strange part is that it isn't in fiction (who can prove God exists?)


Thank You 'I has returned' and 'KeithC', your suggestions do help. The problem isn't finding things to add. It is finding the right things to add. I can do a search but not get what people are willing to use, or find non-supported material.

As for why I am only putting in model packs... there are far few packs then models and it is easier to deal with a few packs then 5 pages of models (mabey more).

@Keith, WIP's are harder to deal with because you never know if it is comming out (and you have to check everynow and then) I'll put it in, but it is just something to stray from.
Also, do you happen to know the name? I typically only go back around 3-4 pages... I might have missed it too (I don't exactally click on every link). Once again, thanks for the reference.

Just as a reminder, I am accepting general FAQ's as well as apps, meaning that if you know something that is asked alot (like what is Riker9, is it out yet, I want it, where is it) then post it here as well.

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Posted: 30th May 2006 19:41
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Quote: "because TGC is using his code"


are they using his code?

Just google pallmanni and get the history of me!

http://whatishl.ytmnd.com/ so friggin funny!
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Posted: 30th May 2006 20:03
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Qouth Ben A
Quote: "Perhaps we should enlighten you a little, but Riker9 is now under a NDA, which means CellBlock himself isn't going to release it anymore. From the little he has told us, it sounds like TGC is now continuing the project. It looks like his work will be incorporated in the next official update, "


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Posted: 30th May 2006 20:28
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I posted a faq called "Some useful information" a while back.It just answers common questions like changing skybanks and questions that I felt I answered a lot so I tried posting the information in one place.

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Posted: 30th May 2006 20:39 Edited at: 30th May 2006 20:42
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My mindware thread was started way before CB announced that he had signed a NDA. He announced that last week in the last thread about Riker9 that got locked. I didn't make that up, CB said it himself. But.... lot's of people missed it and so the Riker9 problems live on.

I'm not sure who should be laughing at least I'm not. If you're going to be accussing someone of something, at least try to get the facts right.

That counts for mindware also...... you don't even have a clue what it means.

If you accuse me next time of something, then please do get the dates and facts right. But there will not be a next time, I'm done wasting my time on non fpsc users that only come here to stir up things.

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Posted: 30th May 2006 23:10 Edited at: 30th May 2006 23:12
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Hey Merranvo!

As Keith mentioned here is the link to my entity creation program:



Due to my lack of knowledge in VB programming I have decided to drop the development of my script creation program.


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Posted: 31st May 2006 03:08 Edited at: 31st May 2006 03:15
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Ben A, you are accusing me of accusing you of 'something'. Please get your facts strait before stating an accusation.

Part A)
You are stating that you no longer call Cell Block's Riker9 mindware, or address it as such. I note that in this very thread you used the term 'mindware' in reference to Riker 9.

Part B)
When asked why you considered Riker9 mindware you always said that he has never shown anything for it and is probably sitting back laughing while we all hope for something that does not exist [paraphrased quote].

Part C)
I am victim to your assumptions; you claim that I exist only to stir things up yet I was the creator of several help threads/sites. I was also the creator of several scripts that are still used as of today.
I have continually tried to enforce a degree of 'right' on this forum including the false advertisement that some products present. Some people look at something and are not aware of what they are buying.
I have also continually offered advice when asked for, and when not. In Mr. Loves case I once offered to 'help' him with the code on the condition that he would stop spamming the boards. Then I advised him that forcing the user to use DBP would result in little to no sales, I even told him of a way to load levels without using multiple exes [told you too, you flamed me for that].

Part D)
You should neither laugh nor pity me, you should listen. I have done a lot during my time here. When people were convinced that physics will make your game slow down to 0, that lighting was bad,, that you couldn't have 'cut scenes', I created a map that maxed out a lot of those values. Now I was not able to introduce enemies... not due to think time but due to object error [array error]. But it proved a point that people ignored.

Heck, I even have decent skills in programming and math. I can even logically find solutions to problems in a matter of moments. Unlike most people who are swayed by popular belief I can still generate unique ideas that can fit the provided facts. Sometimes my formed beliefs are better then the common consensus.




@Duke Blue Devils... is that one of the free or DM Pack models... looks very familiar. Also, thanks for the link.
Note: Is that WIP?

10 Replies, more then I hoped for (more accurately measured as 4 [exclude myself, ben A, and other non FAQ related posts]

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Merranvo,Benjamin A, Relax..Relax...Your "both right" On the over all Riker9 deal. I just wish things had turned out for the better. And they still might. But if..just..if TGC uses the code so much the better. I apologize for not introducing myself, In fact we apologize for not joining the fourms from day 1 when FPSC was an E.A. The name's Darth Valtar, Student video/filmmaker and PC/Console game dude. You can call me DV to save text space lol. To make a long story short: I bought FPSC and we have been using it for our own a games but didn't think it was the right time to join in till at least V.2 made it's grad opening. I must have read just about every single thread within every topic of FPSC so I've gotten to know you all quite well so don't even think I some noob you can pick on. In short I'm DV,Here to help in anyway I can,And yes I too have a game being made with FPSC. Ho back to the subject at hand. Merranvo, Try not to take it so personaly. BenA, In your opinion do you belive Lee might step in and announce that the Riker9 problems could be solved and thus be part of the upcoming V2? Merranvo same question.
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Posted: 31st May 2006 09:13
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Quote: "You should neither laugh nor pity me, you should listen."


Honestly, you're the last person I'm going to listen to on this board. You've made so many claims that it makes my head spin and yet you've never presented a game created with FPSC. But again it's not even worth wasting my time. In the end I may get banned or get a warning and you will get banned once again.

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Posted: 31st May 2006 16:21 Edited at: 31st May 2006 16:27
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Quote: "BenA, In your opinion do you belive Lee might step in and announce that the Riker9 problems could be solved and thus be part of the upcoming V2? "


I really don't know. All I know is what CellBlock told me in a different thread concerning Riker9 ( http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=79886&b=21 ):

Quote: "What a wonderful idea Benjamin A, I wish I would have had that opportunity before I was told to sign a NDA and keep quite."


What this excactly means we don't know, but there are two possibilities:

1. Someone else has taken over the development of Riker9 or has incorporated it in their development of a FPSC upgrade. Either CB gave the code away or sold it to a different party, my guess is TGC, who else would want the code and make you sign a NDA (non disclosure agreement)?
2. Riker9 is just a big joke, but CB is afraid to tell us outright and so he makes us believe he gave/sold the code to some other party.

Either way, Cellblock himself will never release Riker9, so that's why I firmly believe all references to Riker9 should be taken out of threads like the FAQ.

Quote: "Merranvo same question. "
He didn't even know CB signed a NDA and Riker9 is out of his hands now.... (but I doubt Merranvo will ever admit that he didn't know). Most funny thing of all of this is that Merranvo always knows excactly what Riker9 will be and yet the vital information he always lacks. He's told us on a few occasions all of the features that would be in Riker9, while CB denied it or contradicted him on it. Partly because of these reasons I never took Merranvo seriously at all.

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Another thread get infected with arguments about Riker 9.

@Merranvo,
This thread appears to have hit rock bottom ... whould you like to try again in a new thread?

@BenA,
Fine, you're not going to contribute - so stay out of the thread.

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