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Diggsey
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Posted: 1st Jun 2006 18:24
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This is what I've done so far:

Made 3D level
Finished collision, jumping, and walking up ramps and stuff.
Target is drawn on screen
Gun works
Paint goes splat on the wall
Nothing needs to be replaced when I add multiplayer.

Annoying stuff:
When run as executable, it runs at about half the speed than when run from inside DarkBasic

Does anyone know what could be causing the huge framerate drop. It uses sparkys dll, but that shouldn't matter?

Executable is attached

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Can we see some screens please?

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The screens are larger than the exe!!!

How do you get them to appear in the message?

Here they are:

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ergh if you save as jpg they appear with a view button beside the post

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Posted: 1st Jun 2006 20:46 Edited at: 1st Jun 2006 20:55
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OK here they are as one big small jpg file

Edit:

Some info about it:

The level is one big .X file made (by me ) in DeleD.
Camera range is already at minimum.
All objects such as paintballs are hidden when not in use.
Collision is checked about 9 times per loop, using sparkys dll.
(N,NE,E,SE,S,SW,W,NW and one to make sure that you are above ground)

Collision is only checked for the level object.

I haven't got DBP, and won't be getting it for longer than I want this to go on for. Also, I got DBC just before DBP came out, so I haven't got ANY earlier versions of DBC

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Posted: 1st Jun 2006 20:49 Edited at: 1st Jun 2006 20:51
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its a .BSP file format i think,so collision aint so hard...

will check it.

ALSO:

gives "Runtime error 99,Error 99".

and i might make it Multiplayer for ya.(can do it easily as long as it aint messy,else itl take longer)


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How do you do the paint splats? How do you know where to paste the image, assuming that's what you do?

-Thanks

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I get an error when I try to run the exe. Did you remember to include all of the media files? You need to include the collision DLL separately just so you know.
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Posted: 1st Jun 2006 21:29 Edited at: 1st Jun 2006 21:31
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Using sparkys dll, it will tell you where a vector collides with the face of an object. It also gives you the normal of that face.
I have 50 hidden plains that are shown when necessary and positioned at the x,y,z values from the dll and then points it at a point, x+normalx,y+normaly,z+normalz

This means that the plain faces away from the face. In this code, I move it out a little bit, so that it is in front of the actual face.

The plain uses transparency.

I hope that answers your question, if not then download the dll for yourself.

Oh sorry. Here is the zip with dll as well:

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Do you use the same principle to detect whether a player is "shot"?


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Quote: "I haven't got DBP, and won't be getting it for longer than I want this to go on for. Also, I got DBC just before DBP came out, so I haven't got ANY earlier versions of DBC"


Ow...cant help ya out to Multiplayer then.Ah well back to my own?


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Posted: 2nd Jun 2006 00:26
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Do you know how I could speed it up?

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Umm... Sparky Collision 2.0 has been out for a while. Why don't you use that version instead of the crazy method you're using with 1.0?

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 07:47 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2006 07:50
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i dont know anything about DB,
but in DBP we refresh the screen to get the framerate better due the fact the computer doesnt have to do it by typing at the end of the loop:

"Sync"

Might work to speed up.

Latest version gives me:

"Runtime error 99,ERROR 99"


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Same as everyone else:
Runtime Error : ERROR 99.

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Same here.


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Quote: "but in DBP we refresh the screen to get the framerate better due the fact the computer doesnt have to do it by typing at the end of the loop:

"Sync"

Might work to speed up.
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Umm... yeah. I'd say this sums up your post Master Mind:

Quote: "i dont know anything about DB"


No offense though..

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i dont own DBC,only old version of DBP.so mine is better...

and i have no idea how Classic works.


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Posted: 4th Jun 2006 15:31 Edited at: 4th Jun 2006 19:22
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Quote: "i dont own DBC,only old version of DBP.so mine is better...

and i have no idea how Classic works."

lmao it's exactly the same with more commands than dbc

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AND more advanced.

DBC has commands that work different or are writen different.So i cant help with it.


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That still doesn't explain why you don't know what the SYNC command does.

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i know what it does,it refreshes the screen.

BUT in DBC i dont EXACTLY know what it does.


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Quote: "Runtime Error : ERROR 99."


Object does not exist... problem is, we don't get given the line number...

Quote: "lmao it's exactly the same with more commands than dbc"


Oh no it's not... try reading the sectio in the help called "Migrating from Dark Basic V1" I miss some of those old commands... Save Sound (not gone, but not the same), set eax, always active off, attach object to static, detach object from static... there's more missed out commands, but I rarely used them...
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Sorry, I think that I did make exe not final, I'll have a new version soon!

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This should work, it runs when in a seperate folder from the project. If it doesn't, then... I dunno

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And I hope you'll incorporate version 2 of Sparky's Collision soon. Your current method is atrocious.

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Isn't V2 of sparky's dll PRO only?

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And there's that.

(Upgrade, man!)

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heh. i did a project like this once. planned to make it multiplayer too, got exactly as far as you lol.

[href]www.verydevastating.com/paintball.zip[/href]

i stole the .x level collision example's algorithm and tweaked it tho. you ought to add a gun model (theres a nice one at 3dcafe.com that i used.)

if that paintball you're using is 3d and not just a face with a circle on it, you could make it look alot better by turning down the ambient light and putting a directional one in, so it would look like a sphere instead of a circle.

You said you had fifty planes you were cycling through for your splats. if you do the same with your paintballs (5 or 10 should do) then you can have multiple shots and just cycle through them the way you do with your splats, it would be alot like real paintball.

that'd be great to see this go multiplayer, but if you made your level more like a simple speedball field, AI would be really easy to write for it.

Good luck!

Also, if you're considering paying $100 darkbasic pro, you ought to just try out TrueVision3d (truevision3d.com) which is a full SDK that can be programmed in visual basic.

You can get visual basic express 2005 for free on microsofts web site before november of this year, and truevision 3d is free if you dont sell your game so you reallly ought to try it out. its a helluva lot faster than DBC or Pro, and theyre almost done with a new version of it (Also free) which will have shaders, ragdolls, shadows, physics, etc all built in. you ougth to look into it if your seroius about wanting to make this and get it to run fast.

if you switch, it seems complicated at first (you have to declare everything, including 3d models) but its much better. if you do, we could start a team and make a really awesome paintball game in it.

if not, good luck with this. its a cool project and you should add ai and tweak it alil. if you want to peek at the source code to my old one you're welcome to. just ask and ill dig it up and post it.

whoa, big post. i love paintball.
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Thanks, but it already cycles through paintballs, it's just that there is a reloading time, to stop you shooting too fast. Also, I've just ordered dbpro for £15 NEW. It should come in less than a week, so actually I may be able to use that instead. Then it will automatically run LOADS faster

Also, thanks for offering your source code, but I want to try this on my own, because it's one of the few games that I'm actually likely to finish, and it will be my first completely finished almost proffessional game ever!

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Diggsey,

ive bein looking to your codes in DBP and i compiles( )

But it wont run.
You need to change all the Collision to a new version when you use DBP.(Also,isnt the DBP version you ordered Lite? if so,You cant make standalone Exe's"

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No, it's the full DBPro from amazon. The seller has 97% good feedback, so it should be the right one. It is supposed to be new as well Anyway, I'll change the collision to sparky's latest collision dll.

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Good news! I have got DBP
I've also successfully ported it from DBC to DBP except for the transparancy
Even when I set transparancy on for the plains, it still shows the black background. I've tried setting other settings on/off and making sure that black is the transparent colour but it still doesn't work




That is the top section of my code, before the main loop

Also, I'm now using the latest version of sparky's dll.

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Problems solved!
Will be away for the weekend

Sorry for triple post

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