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FPSC Classic Product Chat / [LOCKED] Leaving the boards for a while....... it's gone to far.

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Benjamin A
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 02:48
I'm going to leave this board for a while. I'm OK with discussing stuff with all of you, even sharp and heated discussions. But some people around here take it to an extreme, by starting to attack and even harrasing me by email now. I do not appreciatte that at all.

I'm fine with a heated debate, but being harrassed, even by respected board members is a step to far. If you got something to say to me, do it at the boards here. Don't try to keep up a perfect appearance by not posting it here.

I'll still post in the threads I've either started myself or am involved in, if needed but will not be around here as much. If I see something cool in the Showcase I'll make sure I'll comment also, but that's about it probably.

Sorry to take a step back, but some people are tacking things way to serious around here.

I'm fine with critism, but to harrass me through email, while pretending to be nice around here, is to much for me.

I'm not stopping to use FPSC at all, just take it easy on this board for a while.

Just want to say thanks for Uman & I has returned for the great and sharp discussion we have had (even heated ones at times), but it was done without jumping gun and attacks. I love that, but some people around here do not posses those qualities and it's getting to me, especailly when it's being done outside of this board, so they can keep their record clean.

So probably it's save to say, see you until my next project is done or until some of you have finished/started a cool project, add-on for FPSC or model pack!

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 02:56
Bye

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 03:06
sorry to hear that ben hope to see ya soon

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 03:18
See you around Ben; if I ever get a few bucks aside, I'll check out your game.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 06:18
Sorry to hear that Ben, Hope to see you around bud

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 06:33
I have not known you for a long while but I want to say a goodbye as well, I hope you come back soon, some people here just feel safe behind there moniters and pretend to act as someone there not, thinking there so cool when there only teenage kids who think there tough on the internet by talking in there flames. I would have enjoyed having more people who were nice as well Benjamin A and when people attack your email to offend you it trully shows how pathetic that those people are, they can talk it but they cant back it up is what i mean. Shouldnt let it get to you man but its all good here, just got to keep your cool and act a responcible age.

Really I feel theres a large number of kids and teens here who'se only goal is to ask ma and pa or whoever gaurdians them to get them what they want, and sence we can register here free they think they can say anything they want with no consequence, and that really pushes my buttons. Another thing is when people (adults) in there 20's and 30's and higher have to act like 8 year old asseses flameing someone because they cant speak proper english that is considered critisisng to the point that you are bragging the fact your spoiled with an amarican or european education (good educations) and when people have to be complete dicks to eachother because they think there safe behind there pretty lil moniters they have another thing coming.

I will miss having you around benjamen a even though I dont know you very well, a good, goodbye is always a streight gentlemen activity to do hope you come back soon.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 06:45 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2006 07:44
Note to All, Since I sent said email and I personally feel that BenA is using this I will post said email and let you decide how harassing it is. Keep in mind that this is from frustrations both from my thread Revial: Teh FAQ which BenA suggested was removed because of references to riker9 and his debacle in 'Hello my name is noob' which was an attempt to procure more resources for the FAQ. I understand that he disagrees with riker9 but that is no reason to make a scene of it.

Said Email and the ONLY email (Harassment my ass)

Quote: "Why is it that you never ask why something is and just jump strait at accusing other people with no foundation for any of it?

First Off, you claim that I know exactally what Riker9 is and what will be in it. Perhaps that is because I have been here longer then you and thus have read many threads on the subject of Riker9, have submitted several code snippits to the project and in turn learned a few things.

You have also claimed that I was accusing you of something, yet what it was is unknown. To me it sounds like more accusations come from your end of the arguments, all I give is information and holes in what you say. But you have this wild tangent (tm) going on with anything that is flamable material, if I reply you come back with more accusations that are well strange, and reinforce what you said.

Finally, you persist in asking for my game. What does releasing a game to you have to do with FPSC? I can release to anyone I want to, it doesn't have to be scrutinized by an overdramatic board. But that is besides the point, yes I did release 2 one was a messed up MP Map using wallsegments that I made [unfortunatly they broke FPS] another was a heavly burdend version of similar map with 100 lights ~400 Entitys most of which had physics on. I had problems because I reached the object limit for entitys [which is now my new belief on what causes the 7007 Object Exists error] but once you get off the top floor the game ran pretty smooth.

Now if you believe that releasing a full game is 'contributing' then you are mistaken, contributing is when you show what can be done. When you release things for the public that they want, that they demand. When you reinform the ill-informed [do you know how many times I told these people that you don't need targa for images?]. When you attempt tasks such as organizing the script and model sections [fpscuniverse] or sitting down and trying to figure out something, even if you don't know the answer. Even trying to make general help threads is good. I mean, at one time people complained about not receiving news on V1, so I took on the failing task of translating lee's diary. Not the best, I even corrected somethings after teh lee told me, but It was an attempt to massivly.

Or even programs, I released Menu Monster due to the fact that RastaMans FPSPack did not have a FPS Type menu system, it was suppose to be a rather simple way to create pre-menus for the game... unfortunatly people didn't like the no gui interface [basically I never programmed a point clicker (harder when you have to have it refresh that fast)] so a few errors weren't fixed. Now later on people complained about the multiple file formats so I went online pulled the command32 extractors off and wrote a .bat to cover it all, little better then MM, but still not that much.

Even before all that, I was the first to attempt to drastically improve the AI, not v 2.1.2 you see now-a-days that was just demand for a smaller file + stability. I am talking about v 2, it included several movement concepts including prowling and hunting. I even took control of the weapon... however EA would not let me fire quikshots. It's core was not in combat, but in pre-combat, looking like it is doing something... looking smarter.

I do admit the first version [although it was almost identical to the final version] was untested and therefore bugged... okay several versions were untested I was too sure of myself... The final version was 'stable' but had was excessivly long and had multiple use of timers... that is why it was replaced.



Now I ask you again, what is with your accusations? They have no basis and are often not relevant to the topic. Who cares about the number of games I release to the forums, certainly not I, nore any of the other users."




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I am adding this because I did not read the bottom of your message before this post, ben A. My history has always been an aggressive debater. You have to tell me I am wrong with more then words, but a logical argument dissuading both my key points and reinforcing your own. You also need to have your points in a central area, you can't say that CB did nothing but admit he has a NDA. Those two statements contradict each other.

And many people know my history as an aggressive debater; every now and then I join in an argument and see how far I get. Sometimes it is 'stale' because neither side or one side is not actually debating or is unable to grasp the concept that is presented. Then sometimes it gets rather messy.

I have even been accused of posting ~30 insults to jiffy on the products chat. Now I do admit I am liable for supplying the account and feeding over exaggerated ideas into the susceptible mind of a young child, but that is on my record. At the time it was a split group, several believed I was completely at fault, others believed there was a mistake. I personally believe that the burden of another’s mistake is still placed on me in the view of some peoples eyes.

Finally, we are not suppose to start threads addressed to other members, against the rules, besides it is likely that that thread would get locked a/o deleted. Via Email we could privately settle issue that I believe we share. I know I am unfair to you in some manners, and you are unfair to me in others. That was not a letter of insult, but one of hope. Of trying to fix something that exists between us
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well it is good to hear from the other side, everyone has the chance to tell there side of the story. That email is not a spam one, it is a logicl and mannered proposal to a suggestion made by the sender.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 09:17
Hey ben. I love ur scripts. Please do come back soon. Take care, man.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 09:46
Ben,
On an off-topic note I tried to buy your game but when it went to the payment screen it was in another language and I couldn't figure out what was going on.Is there a button I need to push or a program I need to load to see it in English?I'm looking forward to the game.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 10:00
Ohh dear... our newly recruited mod did not read the thread.

Quote: "Leaving the boards for a while....... it's gone to far."


But remeber... don't email him...
Quote: "harrasing me by email now"



Personally... BenA, my opinion of you was far greater BEFORE I read the email you sent. Because there is nothing personal in it, I will post it. If you said anything at all I probally wouldn't, but this is too much

Quote: "As stated before I'm not willing to discuss anything with you anymore. Please do not contact me again by email or else wise."


You send me this, claim harassment on the boards, insult me in every indirect way you can. I was expecting you to yell at me via email... but calmly making a secret reply while making it sound horrible elsewhere... I don't know if I can even try to work things out with you anymore.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 10:49
I did read all of that but I figure even if he isn't posting he is probably still reading his threads and when he sees I want to buy his game I figure he will either post something here or he can e-mail me.

FLa
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Quote: "But some people around here take it to an extreme, by starting to attack and even harrasing me by email now."


Thats very sad to hear. If you havent reported those who did it to you to TGC, then you really should.

Well, I hope you come back soon.

Bye for now.
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 12:26 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2006 12:28
Don't worry I'm still here.

All I'm going to say to everyone is read my first post. I'm not talking abouit a member (singular), but members (plural).

Although Merranvo's email wasn't a direct harrasment, he has been 'attacking' me in a number of posts and his email was just the one that made decide that it's been enough now. I'm tired of all the needless personal attack that constantly are being done on other forum members. Also the constant bragging that a number of people do is just getting tiresome.

So no, Merravo email isn't the only issue, it's just the one tjhat was too much.

I'll be back if things settle down and some good mods are in place, this board just isn't fun at all, especially wehn people take it too far and invade ones privacy also.

Quote: "Thats very sad to hear. If you havent reported those who did it to you to TGC, then you really should. "


Done that a couple of times before, never got even as much as an acknowledgement that at least they've read my report.....

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 12:36
Bye Ben A hopefuly you come back , a hmm , a whole new Ben A
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I hope you stick around Ben. You made nice comments about my frogs and I respect your work. I hope I can buy your game soon.

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BenA, I feel this is the same thing you did in my FAQ thread. You claimed inaccuracy but only referenced one thing, and that was something you did not like (riker9) no one is harrassing you, you are just making a scene to show off at me.

Sorry if I am wrong, but your second post WREAKS of my email, and that would be only if you never fully read it.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2006 23:07 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2006 23:08
Quote: "Just want to say thanks for Uman & I has returned for the great and sharp discussion we have had (even heated ones at times), but it was done without jumping gun and attacks."


I would appeal to forum members to follow that precident.

A member that decides to leave the forum and move on because they find the product does not meet with their requirements is one thing - but there should be no need for any member to feel so at odds with another or with the many that they feel they cannot support this forum any longer.

The loss of a member - any member is of concern to me at least.

I have differences of opinion with many users - still - over some issues of which I feel very strongly though I would hope to gain their understanding as I seek to accomodate their views and opinions.

I hope that with help from us all where possible "valuable" community members here can settle any differences of opinion in an amicable manner so that all may have the opportunity to continue their support and contribute further to the development of the forum, the future of FPSC and the games made with it.

Such does not mean that any member need necessariliy have to change any of their opinions or the promotion of them at this forum. That can be done quite legitimately whilst avoiding any direct conflict with another member by choosing your words wisely.

Conflict is a direct result of one persons targeting of another in some way and thus can be avoided if that does not occur. Whatever has happened in the past is past - you cant change that - even what happened one second ago - its just too late - but you can change the future. Lets all try to make it a better one and find sensible ways of progression.

Again the solution is as it always has been a simple one - though extremely hard to personally attain to I know. If you dont like what your fellow members say or do - just state you own opposing opinion without any direct reference to another. Others can and will be the judge of whats best from amongst various opinions - If you have a valid opinion which others can respect they will accept it and support it. The majority opinion will hold sway no matter what any individual may believe and we must accept that majority view.

I do hope that members will endeavour in future to agree to disagree and use other sensible non conflicting methods of persuassion to gain support for their viewpoint.

Without reference to individuals - anyone want to help me out here.

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Uman, I do agree that people are targeting others on this forum, such is the nature of a forum. But if people are going to instigate a war they should be prepared to be a receiver as well as a preacher.

If BenA is truly receiving hate mail, then he should have expected that. It is like going into a religious community and saying God is a lie. Somepeople don't want to believe it, others are discusted by the behavior, and others take more drastic actions.

Now I admit I only assume that his 'harrassing emails' (if they exist) are because of Riker9 debates and he should know better. There are strong activists on both sides, place yourself on that pedistel yelling hate tword their beliefs and they might rally up against you.


However that is just how BenA might have become a target. What about I? BenA will continually dismiss anything I say as crap because of my 'know it all' stature. I might have told him before the same I did in the email of how I have been here a much longer time then he and have read all the riker9 threads... But this is either ignored or DNC'd (do not care) on his behalf. In fact, as I stated in another thread, targeting my FAQ merly because of refrences to Riker9 AFTER I went on a leave of absense is a very heinious act of agression.

His agression also seems to be that he consiters me a noob in terms of FPSC, in that I don't own and/or use the software. Continually asking me for proof by game is his way of saying that I can't argue about something I don't use.


People make themselves targets, if they are unable to deal with that then they should stop doing what they do. Step down and mellow out. Have a beer, or a coffee.



Now, as for mearly stating oppinions, the problem is that in a well formed debate you have to obliterate the opponents oppinion, show it's inconsitancies in order to make your theory a more supportive one. Sometimes it can get carried away, but hardly ever have I written a post that is purly hate, nor email.

Debates are ment to be heated, people get mad, get that rush, that is how it goes. The issue is that some can't control the rush or don't enjoy it as much, they want out of it but feel vunerable because their belief is being destroyed. Not by random rantings of an old man, but by concrete statments that show how what they say can't be true. It is at these moments that they will try defending what they say by any means they have, some people laugh it off, some people become idiots and act like they don't understand what is being said, others develope a sense of superioritism and leave, and others unleash fury upon the opponent.



I want to conclude with my idea that BenA is in fact adressing this post to me, his refrences to technicalities in his writting indicate that he probally was not prepared for me comming forth. Saying 'respected memebers' can imply a group not saying that multiple that attack you.

True the post is written to imply multiple people, yet claiming that people are trying to keep a perfect appearance is invalid. Most people can live an alterego but it will bleed to both sides, you will see the agression in the boards, but more in the emails. It is very rare that a person can actually be so agressive as you dictate in email yet so angelic elsewhere.

To me, once again, having sent one email after BenA attacked my FAQ again because it mentioned riker9, offered no support, told me that we weren't talking but replied anyways. Then posted 2 insulting replies which I do believe I had told him WHY on at least one occasion. He claims this. He claims I have been 'attacking' him, claims that I have been harrassing him, and claims that I have been bragging.

So WHAT? I can list all my faults and all my accomplishments, but does that change the fact that you post this type of material?

Quote: "Honestly, you're the last person I'm going to listen to on this board. You've made so many claims that it makes my head spin and yet you've never presented a game created with FPSC. "



You ask for a game, do I need to provide it? Is that what makes you 'The Man' having a game? You think your better then others because you made a game? So much better that you even posted you HAD a level loader but refused to try to make a version for the community. So much better that you can insult a project so much that CB very well might have just said he signed an NDA to get you off his back. Look back at yourself... Who is abusing who?

You have a mediocre stature in this forum, you are known and respected by some. Yet you will NOT hesitate to make your beliefs known in everythread, and not in a calm fashion as uman suggests, infact for the past few paragraphs I have been typing in an agressive fashion. Using names and accusing you of doing things instead of saying 'some post seem' which makes it less flamatory.


I do appologise for the last few paragraphs but I spent around 45 min typing areas, There is soo much BenA should adress before leaving with the idea that on his return he will be more loved (look at him, put up with all that abuse). This is not the thread of a person who is fed up, it is the thread of one who is seeking attention. If you truely wanted people to stop harrassing you, remove your public email. Change it, and keep living.

Merry, shut up.

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Quote: "I do appologise for the last few paragraphs but I spent around 45 min typing areas"


You could have saved yourself all the typing, because it's based on something you assume. I'm sorry that you went through all the trouble of typing it and I'm not willing to reply to all of your statements at the moment. It's going to end nowhere anyway.

For someone I don't really know, you seem to know me very well.

I'm going to stop discussing and spent some time with my family, at least they give me some love and attention, since I'm not getting it around here.

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this is what I imagine all you drama queens look like when I see all the asinine behavior coming from this forum.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/hissyfit.html

Wow that kid musta seen a post where someone asked a "noob" question.
I wouldn't come here if I didn't need to and when I do there are only a few people I really talk to because they have mature attitudes that help the forum. Remember kids this is a 'help' forum. If your not helping, then you are obviously hurting. Don't $#!+ where you eat people, and on a final note-grow up.

JEEZ!You people just STFU! You waste more space complaining about people wasting space than the people your bashing! Man, I thought I had no life.
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I'm not going to get involved in this one. We've had our ups and downs, Ben, but overall we're good, i'd say. See you around...maybe, and thanks for all your nice in the Scripting section.

Tom

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Well BenA, I am a licenced phycologist, it is my job to know people. maybe not so licenced after all.


BenA, I know what people do, I can anticipate that you WILL post again because you do not feel safe. However now that I have said that you probally won't unless what I post seems 'presentable' enough to actually hurt you.

Experiance has also told me that people don't make remarks if they leave for good reasons, if they leave because of frustrations they typically stick to it AND they have a bigger chance of cracking further and yelling about the PEOPLE who attacked them, not just that people are attacking.

This is where a discrepancy lies, you are too calm in this post, you don't sound like someone who broke and is letting it out, typically they will start listing their problems saying it wasn't their fault, or in a more agressive nature insult their harrassers... you just said you were leaving, and made a scene.



Finally, you don't seek help. You have a problem with me yet you will not read what I write nor adress the accusations I provide, the few there really are. As for what I wrote, it isn't all accusations, some of it is about me, about the forum, about how to debate, about issues with tall figures, about a lot of things... some of it ties into you, some of it doesn't.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2006 01:09 Edited at: 4th Jun 2006 01:14
Quote: "Well BenA, I am a licenced phycologist"


And I'm a secret agent, who's got to go on a secret mission . That's the real reason I'm leaving for a while, but I can't tell anyone, because it's supposed to be a secret. Oops.... said to much already, better shut up, else I may jeopardise humanities relative safety.

This post will erase itself in 30 seconds.....

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Quote: "maybe not so licenced after all."


Hence sarcasm... I was a peer mediator if you are asking about reliability.


Well, we can only hope that your familiy stays safe durring this mission of yours... The bad guys somehow allways gets to the family...

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*yawn* people please, we can discuss this logicly, i think spock said that in startreck, and i am kinda on merranvo's side about this one.

Just google pallmanni and get the history of me!

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Posted: 4th Jun 2006 03:07
Merranvo, get over it...
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Posted: 4th Jun 2006 09:06
Thraxas you come back to post that? What exactally am I 'getting over' the fact that BenA claims that I assult him in several posts.
or The fact that it can be seen as the other way around.

I do admit sometimes like above, I have so much to say that I get very unorderly and loose several key points while trying to display what is going on. The above post is horrible compared to what I expect of myself, but I tried to convey as much as I could.

But either way thraxas, the point is that this debate going on here IS about me, the reason this thread was made was because I sent an email. And the reason it persists is because although I am willing to hear BenA's side he is unwilling to tell it, I tell my side and he is unwilling to hear it.

Finally, my allegations against BenA posting this as an attention getter are not entirly groundless, true everything is cercumstantial and BenA could just as well act differently enough to make things seem different but that is in the minority.


All I want is for BenA to agree not to start up any more Riker9 wars AND to not act like I am an idiot when I say something. If these are met I will try to fix any further accusations BenA has against me.

For the most part I can find very few. Then again I will never know, all I know is that he believes I accuse him of something and gets mad about it, and he wants to believe that I don't own FPSC thus should not be here.

Basically what I have been saying is that this thread is a way of getting attention of others, mabey even their support. And it was instigated by an email of a flustered FPSC User who was getting tired of hearing bull from another member. An email that may have yelled, but never insulted and clearly asked a question on both ends. A letter which was ignored and received a heartless reply. A simple letter, which asked why.

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HAHAHAH! weer eentje die weggaat.lol,jk.

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Tijdelijk..... totdat dit zooitje hier eindelijk een beetje opgeruimt is.

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Kan ik begrijpen...

ik let meestal niet eens meer op deze forums alleen op degene van Darkbasic en Program announcements en Wip forums,niet de FPSC forums.

ach ja,Tot later.
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Hi Everyone! Just a thought. Why can't we all...Just get along? Or when one of our first multi-player only maps is done ya should take out your anger and range on what I'd like to call "Devil's Creek". This snap shot displays only a small part using my own artwork for new textures. It will of course have the usual 8player deal but will feature some of the most devilish, hellish MP map ever made. More on this at the showcase in another week. Good night.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2006 09:38
Jovial, and a bit strange...

Hello Ben, how was your 'mission'

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Posted: 4th Jun 2006 09:42
Come back... I never went away...

Your name was never mentioned by Ben A... so IF this post was about you only he would have known that... and then you come and rant and rave and blah, blah... and start something that never needed to be...

What should you get over... Maybe Ben A was originally referencing you and your email... so what... big deal... there would have been no debate about you if YOU hadn't posted your email... Maybe you didn't intend your email to be an attack... but that is how it was percieved and so you must accept that... Email etc. is very impersonal and the mood of the message can be misinterpreted by the person reading it...

I think if I had recieved your email I would have thought the same thing...

So yeah get over it... let it die... If you want to continue this with me then please do email me, and then we don't need to keep bumping this thread to the top...
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If I did a rough trans right, and extrapolated meanings right as well, you said hello/greeting ben... 'something about a program?' is in the DBP WIP and program Announcements boards, not the FPSC Boards.
Mind you, most of that was because you didn't translate program announcements or WIP into your other language.

Now what language are you speaking?

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Posted: 4th Jun 2006 09:54 Edited at: 4th Jun 2006 10:16
I like bumping... and Thraxas you have been gone, mabey reading and not posting, but I haven't seen a post in a while... might be me... Sees brain walking out of head...

Now, I know for a fact that this thread was directed a me as it's post coincided with my email, and probally DIRECTLY with his reply. He also refrences me as "respected board members". Now the first few posts were all about pity and sorrow, but the email that broke the camels back is hardly as abusive as you are now trying to make it. It is very defensive,

BenA accused me of having no reason to be here
BenA accused me of making allegations against him
BenA accused me of being a 'know it all' who does not know it all

And it isn't exactally pretty the way he accuses me, I defended myself by telling 'No, you are wrong and this is why'



Note, anything in source is not directed at anyone. Is an example of an abusive email.

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I KNOW what abusive emails are, please don't talk down to me...

I didn't try and make out your email was abusive, I said that it's meaning could have been misinterpreted as email is an impersonal medium... I also said that if *I* had received it I would have thought the same thing... again I didn't say that your email was abusive... I think you made a mountain out of a molehill... If you can't take criticism then you shouldn't dish it out...

I am now not going to respond to this anymore... if you wish to discuss this further then please email me... I am not going to be drawn into some pointless debate so you can write about hard done by you have been, and then try and act superior to me...
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so you can write about hard done by you have been, and then try and act superior to me...

I act superior to those who I believe are misinformed. It is called debating. But explain "so you can write about hard done by you have been" please.

I know what you are trying to do, you are attempting to be an arbiter, however you are neither quelling the dispute nor solving it. The Dispute is that BenA is claiming harassment against me when it is I who have been harassed by him.

How many of his rants have you read? in this thread alone he shows his true nature twords I.

If you wish to take the role of the arbiter, fine, but you have to do it right, not bury it with some dirt. Ask me what my greivances are, ask Ben whas his are and find a ground to settle on.

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Well Marranvo , insulting Ben A isint going to make him scared unless you were being sarcastic
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Can you smell the testosterone? Now, I'm trying to reach the lock button, pushing past all of those oversized ego's ... ah, got it.

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