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FPSC Classic Product Chat / team request quesition

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Bloodeath 6 6 6
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Posted: 8th Jun 2006 06:55
Ive been wondering, are team requests even aloud like on this forum? or is it just that team requests are frowned on because it normally starts flame wars? Feel free to delete/lock forum after answered to prevent flame war

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Silvester
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Posted: 8th Jun 2006 07:28
They are allowed,
under a few rules.i think one of the MOD's knows a link to those rules.

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Avenging Eagle
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Posted: 8th Jun 2006 09:28
Basicly, the main problem with team requests is that most of the people who need hep are n00bs. Because they a new to the game-making world and are asking for help, most users consider this a sign of laziness and think the n00b can't be bothered to learn how to do something and just wants to take all the credit and money at the end.

Team requests are allowed if the requester has already done a large part of the work himself/herself; that way, it makes it look like they aren't lazy because they've already done quite a bit.

A storyline isn't good enough, nor is the promise of pay, you just have to do alot of work.

I had a thread locked about reasoning team requests here:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=72490&b=21

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Posted: 8th Jun 2006 10:03
Yea i was just curious about it, because i was wondering if it was worth asking for a team to be built up, only because, i got the storyline built up, i can do *Most* of the segments, stock media will help for alot of it, but i was in search of maybe some texturers and modellers/animaters, to perfect a gamee, and then us it to show what fpsc is actually capable of

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IanM
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Posted: 8th Jun 2006 10:18
Here are the team request guidelines : http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=team_requests

We may allow them in this forum if they are very good.

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Vlad
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Posted: 8th Jun 2006 10:52
Howdie

Hope you guys allow me to come here share some bits about this.

I've been trying for years to get a team going. I've had people interested in working in projects I've had enough to put up a medium business. Along the way, people fail to work and/or remain focused.

Fifteen years have passed since the first time I coded a game for a school project. Since then and until about six months ago I tried several times to put up a team for a new game. The same thing happened all the time. A couple of coders, a couple of artists, myself and some days after coders and artists didn't have time or some other escuse.

Then someone told that if I had coded before, I can do it again and then find an artist to help out, paid if possible. That's what I did. As soon as I showed my work and asked for an artist, I got an offer and am now working with a great guy.

Lesson to be learnt: team requests are a waste of time 99% of the times. People that post team requests should focus on knowing what they are working with and show they are not lazy by proving to others their worth. Bottom line is that new people will be able to work between them and experienced people will use what the "requester" is showing in order to choose the most interesting jobs.

Even if you are a newbie, if you show skill and dedication in your work, you'll have help. If you think you are going to have help because you are creative... think again.

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Bloodeath 6 6 6
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Posted: 8th Jun 2006 11:47
i just relized i spelt question wrong. . . . . . . . . .
someone should fix that *cough cough*
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Lucifer
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Posted: 8th Jun 2006 14:46
i have a question, well obviously i'm a huge noob but i can model guns houses and that stuff... also i can make music, so if i make a thread showing a huge sign of progress, and it looks good, like if i were making an fpsc game with cartography shop and everything looked cool, and i would ask for help... would it be locked?

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uman
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Posted: 8th Jun 2006 15:31 Edited at: 8th Jun 2006 15:33
There are Team Request Guidlines which IanM has linked to above if you cant find them.

Clearly those guidlines are intended to provide a measure of sensible control over how Team Requests are conducted so that it is done in a way which maintains the forums and threads in a reasonable and professional manner - one which we wish to see at encouraged these FPSC forums.

Those Guidlines which are quite clear indicate that Team Requests are allowed if they meet with the Guidlines.

As a matter of guidance as far as moderators decisions are to be concerned I would suggest in my case at least that if any Team Request posted meets by and large in substance with the do's and dont's of the official Guidlines then there would be no reason that I am currently aware of not to allow it.

At the end of the day a decision has to be made on a case by case basis. As long as you can show that your team request largely meets with the guidline criteria as said above you wont go far wrong.

I cant see that anything can be fairer than that.

Team Reqests specifically at these FPSC forums in the past have been the source of some controversy and their treatment has varied. for various reasons.

That was then - this is now and the flaming and other bad behaviours of the past are a thing of the past.

I recently locked a thread which had a reference to Team Requests in it as you will know. That was not a specific Team Request as such and it was locked for other reasons which are a private decision which I wont go into here.

That does not set a precident for legitimate Team Requests that can show that they meet with the Official Guidlines.

Whatever the subject matter a post has, the situation is the same - follow the rules which are quite clear in each case and avoid bad behaviours and all will be fine.

Hope that helps

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