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3 Dimensional Chat / Come and see our Circus

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flibX0r
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Posted: 7th Apr 2003 16:18 Edited at: 7th Apr 2003 16:19
I'm programming a game called Children of Sivara. We are doing a deep slice of the circus level. Anyway, i can't reveal too much, otherwise Minimark (our Project manager) will kill me.

Here's a low-res render of our circus:

http://www34.brinkster.com/idott/random/circus.jpg

Here's a hi-res render of our circus (for us broadband people):

http://www34.brinkster.com/idott/random/circus2.jpg

Please tell me what you think.

P.S. It was modelled by our modeller [moaning] lisa. It was done in 25 hours (textured). And no, she isn't availible to do your game models. She is all ours. Insert evil laugh here

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Posted: 7th Apr 2003 16:20
Dammit, gotta get a new website.

Hold on people...

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Superbeest
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Posted: 7th Apr 2003 16:25
Nice, very nice

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Kohai of UWDesign
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Posted: 7th Apr 2003 17:38
hey, nice looking circus !

what will the game be about ??

Circus tycoon ??

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Posted: 7th Apr 2003 20:42
intinatious day of the tentical (sorry wanted to make something from your site acronm lol)
your site is slow as hell - finally get this stupid DSL workin over the network and the first site i visit is so slow i'm thinking of going back to my 72k just to get speed back lmao

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Posted: 8th Apr 2003 01:54
Ooo - that looks nice! Perhaps a little heavy on the polycount for those with low-end computers (like me), but still very impressive!

Can you tell us what genre the game is going to be, or will that result in your premature death at the hands of Minimark?

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Posted: 8th Apr 2003 04:46
lol... site don't work either btw

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Posted: 8th Apr 2003 08:53
Havent fixed that link yet Flibs? The game could be classed as a sort of 3rd person adventure game where you travel to various parts of the world during the 19th century. The circus is just one of the stops along the way. We are currently under intellectual property contracts, but are hoping to have some web space assigned to us soon. As soon as that happens we will be able to release a few more details, and will post a link somewhere on the forums. Thanks for the positive feedback and hopefully Flibs will fix his links so more people can get to see the images.
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Posted: 8th Apr 2003 15:30
Nice render.

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Posted: 8th Apr 2003 17:46
Oh man, I won't be impressed till I see the CLOWNS! Send in the clowns...There oughta be clowns...

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Posted: 8th Apr 2003 18:28
NEW SCREENSHOT!

Screenshot now has POLES!



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Posted: 8th Apr 2003 19:14 Edited at: 8th Apr 2003 19:17
And yet some more screenies.

These ones are IN GAME GRAPHICS! Don't they look sweet?






P.S. Remember, this is a WORK IN PROGRESS

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Posted: 8th Apr 2003 19:18 Edited at: 8th Apr 2003 19:19
heh again looks good

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Posted: 8th Apr 2003 23:54
Better, an elephant, but we must have clowns and circus midgets!!!!

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Posted: 9th Apr 2003 03:50
That's a nice-looking elephant! However, I would recommend tweaking the lighting of the tent a bit - it looks a little dull at the moment...

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Posted: 9th Apr 2003 10:17
Actually, the game doesn't have lighting in it yet, it just has ambient light

We just haven't put them in yet

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Posted: 9th Apr 2003 16:27
really nice

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Posted: 10th Apr 2003 09:08
I'm put some more pictures up on Saturday. We've got some good shot i want to show you guys

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Posted: 10th Apr 2003 09:37
excellent work, only concern is the detail onthe tusks but as you say W.I.P.

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Posted: 10th Apr 2003 22:54
Thumbs up!

Any problems with animating that quadrupling?

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Posted: 11th Apr 2003 01:04
cool elephant

When you think about it, that is what a circus tent would look light, light wise. In the day anyway

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Posted: 12th Apr 2003 06:15
rapscaLLion: yeah, you see in the render that there are lights with mirrors on top of them? That how they used to light them. I'm gonna eventually have some nice sphere mapping on them

Kjetil: No, no really. We are using a program called Animation Master to do our models, and it has some really good animation helpers. Oh, and if you see the elephant walking, you'll notice it actually has 3 bones in its legs (an extra one for the knee so it looks like it bends properly)

I'll post some more pics today

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Posted: 12th Apr 2003 09:17
Of clowns? I need cheering up
Oh wait, clowns are scarey... I need a good scare

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Posted: 13th Apr 2003 12:32
Wow, we have completely outdone ourselves. We did a texture bake in 3DS Max and re-exported our objects, so now they have precalculated shadows on them and they look soooooooo good. Here are some IN GAME screenies:





It looks really cool with the soft shadows!

PLease tell me (us) what you think

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Posted: 13th Apr 2003 13:03
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Posted: 13th Apr 2003 13:37
Thats really cool. Is the game gonne be FREE (i think not so much work)?

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Posted: 14th Apr 2003 02:43
Why not? I expect my game to take well over a year and I'm going to distribute it free, even though I need to buy DBPro just to finish it.

As for the circus, that looks really cool! Apart from the elephant casting no shadow and the edges around the thin poles, it's almost looks like a render! Can't wait to see it in real-time!

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Posted: 14th Apr 2003 13:43
It looks brilliant, though I couldn't get on to your site. I got a block saying that It had to be accessed through a remote server or something like that.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2003 14:19
Sorry about the links at the top, they're on my old site and don't allow external access.

Dr DooMer: The reson that there are no shadows on the elephant is becaus there are NO LIGHTS! All the shadow effects are pre-rendered. As for the aliasing, that is becaus ei haven't put antialiasing on.

Redostrike: Are you nuts??? Of course it aint gonna be free! We are making it as a professional game!

Thanks for all the positive feedback though. I should be able to put up some more screenies soon.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2003 16:15
To use the links at the top just copy them and paste them into the address bar.

Nice work on the scene.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2003 16:42
Yay!!! The circus (actually, come to think of it I've never actually been to a circus), nice shots!

Why the hell'd you ask me for crying out loud!?!

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Posted: 14th Apr 2003 20:16
The UVW Mapping on the elephant looks a little off.


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Posted: 15th Apr 2003 02:47
Mr. Flibble, I know there's no dyanmic lights yet! I was just saying that, if it wasn't for the elephant and the edges, it could be mistaken for a render. Keep up the good work!

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Posted: 15th Apr 2003 05:34
EnchantisoftStudios: yeah, i know. The textures mapping on the elephant is still W.I.P. There are lots of little patches of colour where we had no texture, so we are goin to re-map it.

We should be able to get some more models up soon. We should have some screenies up soon, with wagons and stuff

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Posted: 15th Apr 2003 07:13
A clown? Just one?? Pleeeease?

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Quote: " Danmatsuma: A clown? Just one?? Pleeeease?"


Unfortunately clowns are a bit further down on the list for production, we are still working on the main character and the ringmaster is next I believe. Also will be concentrating on getting the user interface and AI under development. We do have a clown tent with a nice clown on it though, But that is being re-textured as it came out to cartoony. I'm sure Flibs might do a render for you. You awake Flib's? We only have till August until our funding runs dry and we need results. So now we have a basic concept of our level modelled our attention is diverted into getting only a couple of extra characters into the level, cleaning everything up and making it work the way we want, and maybe if time prevails a 30sec trailer. If we get a clown modelled though we will be sure to post it.
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hehehehee x-d

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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 15:53
Bring in...The clowns...

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Posted: 19th Apr 2003 09:10
Here's a render of our clown tent. Its not clowns but its close enough.



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Posted: 19th Apr 2003 11:41
Hehehe, I hope there'll be a nasty clown in your game, a menacing clown.... A clown who don't mess about, a clown who get's the job done The Clown face on the tent promises some good actual clowns. Whoever you're animator is could sure have some fun with the clowns antics Did I mention I like clowns?

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2003 14:16
Danmatsuma: What is wrong with you? Do you have some kind of clown fetish or something? Well, at least you're replying and thats always good.

P.S. Where in Australia are you?

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2003 17:19
Outside your house... Just deciding what to do with this machette...

Seriously, melbourne.

Hehehe, clowns have a special place in my warped heart yes, as a red dwarf fan you should understand that Did you ever see 'the Night of the Killer Clowns?' It's about these aliens who happen to look like clowns and their "flying saucer" is a clown tent much like the one in your render, the clowns come to earth to eat people, hilarious film

I'm looking forward to seeing your game too, not just for the clowns

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2003 17:22
Cool, I live in Melbourne also. lol.

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2003 17:32
Hehe, rusty spork comin' your way exeat

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I knew I shouldn't have disclosed my location, now I'm going to have to pack up and head to Argentina.

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2003 18:46
*LOL*, yeah you'll be safer there

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That's because everyone hides out in Argentina lol.

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Posted: 26th Apr 2003 06:35 Edited at: 27th Apr 2003 07:23
New screenies!

We got shadow shading going on and it looks sweet.

http://idott.ionichost.com/cadsagap/index.htm

Sorry about the fuzzyness on the second one, but it was originally 1600x1200 but my (free) server wouldn't let me access it cos it was too big or something??? I don't know

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last piccies not showing
best way to add alot of depth on object textures is to bake the uv's as you've done, but rather than simply combining, what you do is draw on or merge the detail - the overlay the main texture - airbrush in the slight colour changes and then go over the features with the airbrush and paintbrush to make them stand out
gives alot of character that way ... so rather than things being photographic and lifeless, you've create a vibrant texture which makes the object stand up and be more real.

its far better job than standard lighting could ever do, because then you can use the minimanl of lights just to add highlights and shaodows where needed to add the realism in scene

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Posted: 26th Apr 2003 09:52
Are there any articles or tutorials on how to *bake* the textures so they look like they have shadows? I'm a 3D Studio/Photoshop man, new to DB, hungry for more !!!!

Oh yah, BRING ON THE CLOWNS !!!

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