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Jonny Ree
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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 20:51
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Its been quite a while since I've posted any work here, so I better get something up

Here is my latest work, not yet textured obviously, but its queued after a few others I need to finish up. Stygius is a pet project of mine, which I'm using to build up a portfolio if anyone is wondering.
This model being the main character.

Here are the concept sketches I did before hand, the mesh is the middle one:


The mesh:


Feel free to comment on it, changes can still be made


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Cash Curtis II
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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 20:54
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Wow, that is one damned fine model I can't wait to see it textured. How many polygons are in the face?


Come see the WIP!
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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 20:57
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Nice job Jonny

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Jonny Ree
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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 21:02
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Those were some quick replies

The head alone is 471 tranges:




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SimSmall
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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 21:26
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Ah, the famous Jonny Ree, finally I get to see your work whilst it's "current"

Looks great - But then would we expect anything different from you?
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Manic
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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 21:37
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that's a quality face for the number of polys. I don't think i can find fault, except maybe the knees are a bit too low.

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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 21:42
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very good jonny, good quality of work there, me-likes, keep up the good work, can't wait to see more of this pet project. I can see you haven't wasted polygons on details that can be shown in the textures. The polygons on the face have taught me an extra thing or two I think would make my faces less awkward to model and conserve more polies, so for that, cheers

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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 22:07
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Sweetality.
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Julius Caesar
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wow! I am blown away! I agree, the knees are a wee bit low, but the quality of the model is amazing.

Funny, whenever someone makes an amazing model lik this, it's always the tiny, inconspicuos little flaws that stand out...
why?

Bouncing Physics... How do?
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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 23:03
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if everything else is perfect, imperfection stands out.

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Jonny Ree
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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 23:21
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Hello everyone, thanks alot for such nice comments on this mesh of mine. As for the knees, the reason they look low is because of the knee caps of the armor. The actual bending knee is further up the leg. Not that its pointed out though, I can easly see the confusion. I've done soem to try and fix it up a bit, but I'm pretty sure when its textured it will be easier to see where things are.

The mesh is still up for changes, so please comment on things if you see any.


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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 00:15
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ok, if you want me to be picky, you might need another loop under the arm pit, it looks like it could collapse when animated, and you might want to reconsider the hands, if you try and bend those with bones, they'll tear. as its so low poly compared to the detail, you might want to model the hands in a grabbing pose, or put in half a loop over each knuckle to support the movement.

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Jonny Ree
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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 00:44
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Hey Manic: You're indeed right. I'm currenly tweaking the model, and I've already added animation support for the fingers. I didnt sport the area under the armpit but I'll get to that as well. Thanks for pointing it out


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Holy poop thats awesome!

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The shoulder plate mail amour looks kinda like either sephiroths or clouds of FF-advent children. I love the model it is really good. My I ask what software your using coz its really really good.

Thankyou for sharing this with us
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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 10:07
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harrybarry: thanks

RichMan: I must admit I havent seen the film yet, so I cant confirm that other than the fact that both probably has a shoulder plate on the left shoulder as for sotware, I use Softimage|XSI foundation 4.2 an excellent piece of software


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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 11:33
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glad to help jonny. I can't spot anything else wrong with the model... maybe he could do with some accessories, like bracelets or something.

nice job on the hair by the way, i've plumped for a similar thing (although mine isn't as good) since i found DBP had problems with layered alpha on the same model.

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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 14:48 Edited at: 21st Aug 2006 14:50
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Ow.. Wish i had same model skills like you.. I really want characters like this on my game.. Can i use some of your models (If yes i put the credit BIG ONE lol)? or do you have tutorial? But dont know about poly count.. well...

You singature was removed by mod because it was too cool..
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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 19:03
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Cloudef : He's certainly not gonna let you use them

Jonny : I have a freind whos a pretty darn good artist. He draws good ref images for my game. I attatched an example. He may not be as pro as you, but I still think he's rather good.

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Joe Cooning
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Wow! Can't wait to see the texture for this guy. Looks like an evil Aragorn.

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the hairline seems a bit receded to me, but maybe its the long hair giving that illusion. Or maybe hes going through a midlife crisis.

Excellent work again, I'm still working on your track.

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Jonny Ree
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 00:05 Edited at: 22nd Aug 2006 16:55
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Xenocythe: thats looking rather good thanks for your comment.

Cloudef: I'm sorry, all my models are either in use or is to be used. This one is for my own project.

Joe Cooning: Thanks, hope to have it textured sometime soon.

Oddmind: The hair is giving that illusion, once its textured you will see where the hair starts and ends.

Thanks again everyone


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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 06:42
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I really like the 3rd illustration, great work.

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Posted: 30th Aug 2006 07:09
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Thanks indi
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I finally got some time to myself after working almost day and night the past week. And even though I knew I should spend my time working on other peoples textures.. I had a breakdown and did a bit on my own model. I didnt get too far though, but to post some progress anyway I was able to finish the first few passes on the face.



Have a good day.


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Dang! You should enter that into the Blizzard art contest!

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Yeah, yeah, Jonny Ree made another awesome model. What else would you expect! Lol! Absolutely incredible!

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Absolutely amazing stuff - I'm surprised you haven't been snatched up by professional games developers like Epic...

(Just checking now - you haven't actually been claimed by any such companies, have you?)
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Joe, Andrew and SimSmall; Thanks a bunch

Quote: "(Just checking now - you haven't actually been claimed by any such companies, have you?)"


No, unfortunately I havent been able to land a job yet, though I must admit I havent put myself out there too much yet. I guess I just dont feel quite good enough as it is.


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Hmm,THAT models are great Jonny!its suprprising good looking for that poly count

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FPSC-Segments 35%---FPSC-Entity 's 0%---FPSC-Signs 0%
FPSC-Decals 0%---FPSC Characters 0%
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Brilliant, Jonny Ree. Amazing Work as usual!

If you look closely... The texture "Half Head" on the Right of that pic looks a bit like Tom Cruise. To me it does anyway....

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Does to me too...funny that, I was looking at someone elses on another forum who was going for the Brad Pitt look...I think I'm going to interview a vampire next

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Looking great man! Did you just use a custom brush or somethin on that beard? It looks nice, though maybe a bit too sharply cut off at the cheek bone. Looks great though on the neck and mouth.

Also the eyes look a bit unatural... Unaturally cool that is I say screw reality and keep that color .

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How in the world do you texture as good as that

You must teach me master!


Hehe, I have photoshop, but I suck so much at it


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I reccomend looking at this first,

http://itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm

go back to that after you progress a bit more in your 2D skills

Second look into buying a WACOM tablet. your going nowhere without one

Look for some tutorials on painting, I like video tutorials myself.

start first with this:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3706764#post3706764

then maybe move onto something more like this

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=381097

Afterwards then something like this might make sence to you
(download hi def)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3733872&postcount=243

A good thing to do would to be watch once then watch and do then do without watching, for each one of those. its no short road to texture painting, but this will get you started.

After you have the rudiments, You will need to study every nick and cranny of the human anatomy. Human skin is anything but peach/brown, as you will see in the tutorials there are so many more colors in it that if they arent present makes the human look dead.

Just remember to block out first, then add detail on top fo that.

This is as far as i can point you in the direction, you will have to make realizations and connections yourself to better your skill and understanding of digital and traditional art techniques.

Good luck happy painting.

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Ladies and gentlemen, that's what beautiful polygons looks like.



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i'm at work, so i can only offer up a quick crit.

the texture looks blurry around the nose.
the cheekbone looks... weird
above the eyebrow the colours need to blend more
the creases of the eyebrow above the nose look to sharp to me
you could add a few brow lines, his forehead doesn't look as old as the rest of him

having said all that, i know its a WIP, so you might have been about to address all that anyway.

great mouth BTW

what i would say is that i prefer going for a full face unwrap, and a mirrored side of head, that way you can add all sorts of asymetrical detail to your texture. however, if you don't have space for that in your spec, then half a face is perfectly understandable.

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thank god there something decent around here to offset my garbage..
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