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Dark GDK / Dark GDK and Visual C++ 2005 full version ?

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Artus
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 18:49
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Hi all,

Back from holidays I have quickly tried the GDK with the Visual Studio 2005 Pro that I have bought to replace my VS6 Pro.
I have configured project includes and libs according to Philbert, except for the VS2003 paths (I do not own VS2003, only VS6 and VS2005 ; platform SDK is provided with VS2005 Pro) and installed the June 2006 version of directX.

Result: I can't get it work with the test code provided by Lee (quartz.lib not found).

I think that the minimum TGC should do would be to provide a functional GDK. Why should I seek for VS2003 or DirectX 8 files while TGC requires DirectX 9 SDK and support VS2005 ?
Has anybody succeeded in using the GDK with VS2005 pro ?

The DGSDK installer used to work very fine with VC6, including the definition of a dark game SDK template in the project options. Why is the install for VS2005 so complicated?

Moreover, I discover from this forum that the new "update" mainly consists in renaming the product (GDK instead of SDK), recompiling the libs for VS2005 and correcting errors in the headers that have been pointed out a year ago ! Not so bad, but then ? Very disappointing after so much time of expectations.

Please Lee or Mike give clear instructions, provide all the files needed (where will I find VS2003 libraries ?? Please provide the appropriate quartz.lib, etc..), and give some more informations on the schedule for the effective GDK upgrade to the level of DBPro 6.2.

Thanks in advance,
Artus.

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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 20:05
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You need DX8 - which can be found in my post about quartz.dll

You dont need VS 2003 libraries - just the Platform SDK, DX9 SDK and the small part of DX8.

Once those are installed, it works very well.

It was posted that this upgrade was merely a renaming update - hopefully Lee is currently working on the bug fixing and removal of DX 8.

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Miguel Melo
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 23:29 Edited at: 23rd Aug 2006 23:30
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Quote: "It was posted that this upgrade was merely a renaming update - hopefully Lee is currently working on the bug fixing and removal of DX 8."


Yeah, it's gone awfully quiet in here after that half-fangled update... too quiet for my own taste. I wonder if it's going to take another 14 months to get a proper (as in _real_ U6.2 featured) 1.6.2 version....

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Briere
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 19:25
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ignore the D3DX8.LIB
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Posted: 27th Aug 2006 04:06 Edited at: 27th Aug 2006 04:18
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Well I just spent 21 hours downloading express c#2005. Now I don't know if I should buy GDK or not. I want to learn C++ and I was thinking that this might be the way to start to get use to writing
in C++. Like every thing TGC they put the cart befor the horse. I may have to wait for a while to see it is going get any better.
DBP is just now becoming a program that is worth the money I paid for it. That was 3 years ago. I am very happy now with DBP and hope it will get better.
renny

edit.... I thing I spent all that time downloading the wrong program. I was told that C# was the same as C++ compiler and that was the best one to download. Now I see that MS as a express C++2005
program to download. Does anyone know if they are the same? Am I going to have to download the C++ program? What a pain in the ass this has become.
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APEXnow
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You need C++ for DGDK, not C#. C# is a separate download, and is only used for .NET development.

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Posted: 27th Aug 2006 15:29
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Unless you wait for a while and get Apex's DGDK.net

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sadsack
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Posted: 27th Aug 2006 17:25
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APEXnow, when do you think your Dark Game SDK.NET will be going on sale? Are you going have tut,that will work so one can learn how to use your Dark Game SDK.NET? How much it it going be in US dollors?
The screen shots looked good.
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Posted: 28th Aug 2006 02:32
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Dates cannot be spoken of unfortunately. But yes, the help file will contain tutorials on how to use and implement a simple application using the five main supported development environments:

Microsoft Visual Studio 2003
Microsoft Visual Studio 2005
Microsoft Visual Basic Express
Microsoft Visual C# Express
SharpDevelop2 RC2

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LeeBamber
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Hi Guys,

I took advantage of the bank holiday weekend (when sane people go on holiday) to make a few more modifications to the DarkGDK so the next version released soon will make Express even easier to use. I have modified some projects and removed that nagging dependendence on D3DX8.LIB A few other tweaks too, watch the forums for more news.

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Thankyee Lord Bamber
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Miguel Melo
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That's cool Lee, thanks.

Will this new build also include the missing bits from U6.2, or is it just a dependency cleanup on our current binding?

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Artus
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Thanks.
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Any chance of getting the 3D object ghosting fixed soon ? Its one of the more important things that need doing...

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can any one tell how you can build a stand alone exe. with Visual C++ 2005 ed. ( the free download on from )MS
thanks
renny
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I don't have Visual C++ Express, but should be the same has any other. At the menu, go, Build-> Build <ProjectName>

Where <ProjectName> is, that is the name of your project.

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Posted: 1st Sep 2006 03:17 Edited at: 1st Sep 2006 05:07
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I can do build all day and only get s-code. Seeing this is free, maybe you can't make stand alone program. Does anyone know?


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I found out what I was doing wrong
thanks for the help
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