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Acolyte
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I have the full dx august sdk downloaded in a compressed self-extractor. As for %temp% i don't know what your referring to. Perhaps the C:\Temp\ directory? Or is it somewhere in the registry? And finally i'm not in the UK i'm in the US. Sorry guys. I don't mean to be such a bother. As soon as I can get this little problem resolved there won't be any more need for us to go on with this topic. Just need to fix it so that I can run the files we've already discussed. Thanks again for all your help and your patience. You guys are incredible.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:08 Edited at: 4th Sep 2006 23:10
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the %temp% folder is normally located at:

d://documents and settings//YOUR name//Local Settings//Temp

d being your drive such as (C: ) and YOUR name being your personal settings folder for your user when you log on

This folder will normally contain a ton of temporary files which should be cleaned out every so often. You may find that some of the files will not delete because of sharing violations, but try to remove files that are not complained about.

(your not a bother, it's just a shame that this problem isn't as easy to fix as most others)

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Thanks again. I don't have a local settings directory under my name within the documents and settings folder, so i can't find the temp directory. I did however locate a temp directory within windows which was full of things, so i emptied that folder out. I still get an error when I try to install the August update for directx. Below is a screenshot of the error window i get. It tells me to refer to the DXError.log file, and i know where it is, but I really don't understand what the logfile says when i open it. I have also provided the log-file below.

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Sounds like you dont have view hidden files on

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 00:18 Edited at: 5th Sep 2006 00:23
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Your temp file is located here:

Cocuments and SettingsBrandonLocal SettingsTemp

..according to the log anyway.

This section clearly breaks the installation after your system reboot:

09/03/06 22:34:30: dsetup32: === SetupForDirectX() start ===
09/03/06 22:34:30: dsetup32: Jul 28 2006 08:45:06
09/03/06 22:34:30: dsetup32: CSetup::SetupForDirectX(): RegOpenKeyEx() failed, error = 2.

This seems to stem from a key being missing in your registry. I'm wondering if your trying to install DX as a limited user, or your not logged on as administrator? Can you reboot and logon to Windows XP as an administrator?

[EDIT] I'm looking further on the log, as I think there's more to it than the above anyway...

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you were right, i feel like an idiot, thank you again.

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ummm...i'm the only user on my computer. i'll see if i did something wrong in my user setup, i thought i was an administrator. Let me see...

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yeah, i'm the only administrator on this computer. is there any way to go into regedit and put the key back in directly?

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Ok, this is beginning to point to some kind of broken DX install. The log complains about attempting to obtain a specific key. Now to me, this seems to point to the registtry being damaged (possibly). My only suggestion is that you attempt to uninstall, what is if any DX versions installed using Add/Remove programs, and uninstall DX. Then run a Registry Fixer program on the system to clear out any unresolved paths and class registrations from the registry.

Try to re-install the August version again. I know this is a pretty hefty siutation to deal with, but bar the fact that doing a complete restore is the last thing I would ever suggest.

Also, are you using an OEM version of Windows XP? i.e. Dell PC or something?

[EDIT] XP Home edition?? Are there any issues with the Home edition when using the August version of DX?

Just for curiosity: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870560/

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um...no i build my computer through a business online. CyberPower Inc. Just plain old Windows XP SP/2 Home Ed.

What registry fixer program do you recommend? It would probably be the best thing to do, because i'm pretty confident you're right about the registry being messed up what with all the installing and uninstalling i've been doing lately. Couldn't hurt right?

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I don't think there's any issues using it with Home Ed. I do have a professional version under my academic license available for install, but i can't burn the images for it onto discs right now because my burner isn't working.

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See my edit in last post. Anyway, for registry fixing, there a numerous versions out there, but the best one I've seen and used so far is:

http://www.shareup.com/Registry_Fixer-download-29139.html

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so, according to your last edit, i downloaded the file from the ms website about updating problems and i tried to run it. It says something about me using directx version 9.0. Should i try to install this version?

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the registry fixer is finding a lot of problems, after i fix them, i'll try installing the august update again. hopefully this will take care of any problems with the installation program.

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Ok, let us know how it goes.

Paul.

(I'm inclined to advise actually downloading the June 2006 DXSDK, but it's big!!)

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I've already got it downloaded!

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Ok, I'm just storming the noggin, thinking if there is issues with August's installation, that the June 2006 SDK may still function correctly. Try the reg fixer first though as it could just be a red herring.

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I got the same error with the june installation as i did with the august when i tried to install just now. I still think there's something else wrong. I tried the reg fixer already and it said that it got rid of everything. I'll run it again and see what happens.

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Same thing. Some internal error and it tells me to look at the log file. Next to the error message there's a '(-9)'. Could this be some kind of error number? I don't get it. Is there a way to fix the registry for directx by adding keys myself?

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I tried to go back and install directx 9.0 from 2004. I actually got farther until it got the part at the end where it wanted to start my directx debugger. I attempted to manually start it through services in the control panel, but that didn't work either. I'm so frustrated, this is going on a week now just trying to get this stupid error resolved.

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Ok, i got the DXDebug thing working, i had to re-enable the Debug manager in services. So much stuff to do...oh well, i guess it's worth it in the end.

Ok, so here's an up to date on the situation. I have DirectX SDK 9.0 (2004) installed now. Below i have provided each page of the DXDIAG tool that i felt were relavent the situation at hand:

DirectX Files:
Several files (gcdef.dll, directx.cpl) are old versions, which could cause problems.
Several files (d3dx8d.dll, d3dx9d.dll, d3d9d.dll) are debug versions, which will run slower than the retail version.

Music:
No General MIDI DLS file was specified in the registry.

Network:
The registry information for the service provider 'Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay' is missing or damaged.
The registry information for the service provider 'IPX Connection For DirectPlay' is missing or damaged.
The registry information for the service provider 'Modem Connection For DirectPlay' is missing or damaged.
The registry information for the service provider 'Serial Connection For DirectPlay' is missing or damaged.

So, there we are. I'll try to update to a newer version of directx tomorrow if that's what you think i should do. I really just want to get this working as soon as possible. Even if i get the august version of the SDK back onto my computer and working fine, won't we just be back to where we were before? Will i still not be able to run the sample viewer?

Thanks again for all your help guys, it means a lot to me.

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Acolyte, these problems are hurendous!! I'm at a loss as to what caused it to begin with. Are you actually in a position of doing a complete system restore? I know it's not what you wanted to hear, and I certainly didn't offer the solution lightly. I've very rarely had to do a system restore since a backup of emails, downloads, project work etc. It's a two day job at best, but if it will resolve any broken registry issues. Also, from a clean install of XP, and installing the latest DX version, I'm just hoping that this will make the problem go away.

My only concern is that I don't want you to have to go through all of the rigmerander of installing XP on a clean system, only to find yourself back where you started.

Unless other people can offer a better quicker solution, I don't know what else to suggest.

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I would suggest reinstalling Windows, as opposed to doing a system restore because a) it cant be trusted, and b) it wont always restore what you want - because even if you did, you'll just end up with a system with the original problem.

The other advantage is, if you've got any virus or stuff, it'll get rid of it.

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Correction, what I meant by a system restore, is to actually format the drive partition and re-install Windows XP with Service packs. I wasn't referring to the system restore option at boot.

Normally alot of PCs come with System Restore CDs that already maintain drivers and such. I.e. Norton Ghosted drives.

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Quote: "I wasn't referring to the system restore option at boot"

I was refering to the System Restore in Windows.

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It's available at boot as well, (F8)

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True

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Thanks so much guys. So how do i go about restoring my system to its former glory? I have a restore cd that came with my CyberPower system and I think it has windows xp on it. I wish my burner was working because i have a student version of xp pro, but i can't burn the images without a system that works. So, all that to say, how do i go about restoring windows. Should i completely wipe it off with the bios, or something, or should i just let the windows disc repair it?

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Barring the fact that this is a fairly new system, support lines and technical help lines are normally provided for such drastic issues. But I would recommend that you backup your 'My Documents', 'My Favourites', your email store folder, and any major project work onto a CD before even contemplating a system restore.

Also write down any passwords and special log on information as well. Doing a complete system restore is irreversable and basically wipes your system.

Normally, you place the first restore CD into the PC drive and reboot from the CD. Instructions are normally provided after.

Again, I will stress further.... BACK UP EVERYTHING YOU NEED.

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Thanks again guys, i'll post some more info once i do the system restore.

I think i'm going to go get an external hard drive and just back everything up there. I have so many gigs of digital video that i've done that i don't want to delete, i think that's the best solution.

Thanks again for your commitment to my problem.

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First of all, i'd like to thank you guys once again for all the help you gave me throughout this topic.

I did the complete system restore and I got all of my programs reinstalled. I tried to run the sample viewer and IT WORKED!!!!



So, now all i have to worry about is designing the rest of my demo game. Thanks again yall, good coding! God Bless!

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In the famous words of Jack O'Niell, and Mr. Burns....

Eeeeeeeeeeexcellent!!!

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