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FPSC Classic Product Chat / FPS Creator 1.04 RC6

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LeeBamber
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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 11:39 Edited at: 15th Dec 2006 11:42
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Getting close to the final V104 release version now. Find a new link to RC6 below:

http://www.fpscreator.com/betafiles/FPSC_104_RC6.zip

Changes:

* Adjusted FOV of smoke, so it emits from the correction position in the gun
* Adjusted speed and parabola of the shells so they eject and fall more cinematically
* By popular request, if your FPM level contains entities in the selection list that are no longer used, FPSC will remove them
* By popular request, if your FPM level contains segments in the selection list that are no longer used, FPSC will remove them
* Added a new debug string reporter to the SET DIR command (will display any folder name that is invalid during a build process)

Please report any more show stoppers asap I am especially interested if the entity/segment auto-remove messes up your projects so I invite all FPSC users not already doing so to BACKUP YOUR LEVELS now, just to make sure!

"Small, smart, and running around the legs of dinosaurs to find enough food to survive, bedroom programmers aren't extinct after all "
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Saker
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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 11:53
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good updates.... waiting the final V104

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can you make any graphics update like more shaders or motion blur??
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Davy B
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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 11:57
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@ lee

heres a snapshot

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JohannesM
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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 14:09 Edited at: 15th Dec 2006 16:01
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GREAT! A new version! I will now click "DOWNLOAD"

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btw i asked rich to change my name from Supah Gamer so dont mix!
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bond1
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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 14:29
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Quote: "You said it twice "


Hehe, look closely...once for segments, another for entities.

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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 15:15 Edited at: 15th Dec 2006 15:17
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@Davy B

Either it's saying that the error is in your "My Games" directory or it's not displaying the full path. If it's the first option, then I'm not sure how helpful that is.

I'm sorry, my answers are limited. You must ask the right question.

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Quote: "You said it twice"

You might want to re-read it.

Downloading when I get home. This sounds like a good update.

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@ bond

Aah! They looked the same so much!

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WOOT WOOT! Thanks LEE, i am downloading now I will report my findings.

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Well, I've just had a quick test and can say that it does indeed remove unused entities when saving, also no problems when testing the game either apart from lighting levels, and music.

The lighting and music I have changed in the build menu > Global Script and used to work, the light levels I set to 15 to darken the game, and used my own music, now, no matter what I change the ambiance level too, the lighting doesn't change, neither does the music, I can't get any music to play.

this is just testing the game and changing the Global Script in the build menu (which used to work) but I haven't tried building an actual game to test, will do that later.


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Quote: "Getting close to the final V104 release version now."


this is great news!!! Thank you for working so hard for us!

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Lee,
You are my hero.
You have no idea how much time and aggravation you are going to save me.
Thanks again.

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I dont see new multiplyer mode and weapons.

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Errant AI
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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 19:37 Edited at: 15th Dec 2006 20:53
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Quote: "Adjusted speed and parabola of the shells so they eject and fall more cinematically"


Very cool! This could really save me some hassle if it's up to par.

Still, I'm dreaming of a day when users can control these settings through gunspec...
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Grr, I loaded my competetion level and when it loaded says error.
I must reinstall the program.

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Nue B
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Why can't the final version include the command "keypressed=" like in Empty's FPSC MOD?

I don't like having to type out "scancodekeypressed=" when I make a script for cheats or keypads.

I know that I could just copy and paste, but fewer characters mean a smaller .fpi file size.

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Quote: "
* By popular request, if your FPM level contains entities in the selection list that are no longer used, FPSC will remove them
* By popular request, if your FPM level contains segments in the selection list that are no longer used, FPSC will remove them
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This is excellent... rock on Lee !

Quote: "so I invite all FPSC users not already doing so to BACKUP YOUR LEVELS now, just to make sure!"

I am waiting to build my compo level until I get the version that works best for me.
I have the design all work out but I want to wait to start building it just in case.
I think this may be the one, so I can hardly wait to get to a b-band connection to d-load it.
THANKS AGAIN LEE


@Nue B
Dude, that is a petty complaint and I usually try not to sound too negative, but get a grip.
Typing 'scancode' is not going to hurt your fingers or your file size, so suck it up.

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RedneckRambo
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Nue B- Of all the things wrong with FPSC.... you complain about having to type, scancode. That is pretty pathetic.

Quote: "I dont see new multiplyer mode and weapons."




Johnny- I just read that about five times, and don't see anything about multiplayer. So what are you complaining about? So far this seems like is going to be a most excellent update.

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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 23:01
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WOOT!!! Oh man have I been waiting for the auto remove of unused items!

Your signature has been erased by a mod because it's larger than 600x120
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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 23:09
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@ xplosys

try to build a game (not testing it) then your see what happenes.

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Posted: 15th Dec 2006 23:30
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@Davy B

No problem. Built and played. What I'm saying is that the error seems to be telling you that your problem is in the "My Games" folder and if that's the case, then the message is pretty vague.

Best.

I'm sorry, my answers are limited. You must ask the right question.

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lol, what happened to RC5?

thanks for the update lee!


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RC5 is in the old thread, the RC4 one...

Look for it in there...

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Now i seriously want a recoil effect.
I wonder if they ever will....

well i cant wait to see the final version!
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w00tn355!!!!!!

even with a ton of custom media my game is a very slim 40mb uncompressed, great job Lee!!!

NOTE: Next up for file size reductions should be removal of unused sound files.


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Lee,
I found one problem with the blood decal fix you made. now instead of showing the square it shows bulletholes and blood in suoer glow in the dark fasion. is there any way to have them affected by the fog maybe subdued?


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Here's a late night Noob question for you:

I've finally hopped on the ban-wagon and installed RC6... until now I've been in love with EMPTY's MOD... I just tested a great game I've been diligently working on for months now and the commands "entitytimerstart", "entitytimergreater=" don't work in the RC6

Is there an alternative? Entity timers are great because they don't mess with the global timer. I haven't seen a list of new commands for the RC6 so if there is one, someone please kindly point me to it.

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The blood splatter kind of looks like vomit! Is this supposed to be this way? Or does it resemble guts and blood together. I can't tell.
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Is there anyway for bullet holes to appear on the characters you kill? Maybe show different stages of wounds or atleast burnt clothing/damage.

Also, is it possible to have dual weapons with any of the released model packs?
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is it possible to get the "building portals" to load any faster?
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Hi Guys,

In order for Lee to have a Christmas break this year, he is not entertaining feature requests for V104

RC7 solves the glowing blood splat problem, and as a special treat to the FPSC community for putting up with these machine-fire updates, I am pleased to announce DarkLIGHTS integration which replaces the current lightmapper for the next release candidate. I have already integrated it, and is currently under testing. If you have never looked at the DarkLIGHTS product, you will know what you have been missing when you see your level lightmapped with this new technology. Not only is it faster, the shadows and illumination effects are superior. I think you will approve. Of course with any new addition, and the vast field of existing projects on the go, there are bound to be a few niggles. Reports as per usual, greatly welcome.

Also, just to highlight how nice TGC are, DarkLIGHTS was developed over several months, and cost £XX,XXX to develop. It was always our intention to use this technology to bolser the power of FPSC as well as DBPro. Rather than sell this new tech as an upgrade, we have decided to integrate this for free into FPSC, and not charge you a penny. It is often taken for granted when we add new things, largely because we don't make a song and dance about the work that went on behind the scenes, let alone the development cost. Today I felt like dancing We also plan to integrate DarkAI for free too, but I will leave this one until after Christmas!

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Great News Lee; I guess I can remove that from my list of 3 things in the RC6 wish list.



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Quote: " Today I felt like dancing "


Me too.

Do we need to install RC5 before RC6 or can we skip it?
The reason I ask is because I had RC4 installed and then due to the fact that you folks at TGC are apparantly working harder than I am you released RC6 before I installed RC5.
It works fine (except for the bloodsplat thing that was covered in a previous post) except for one thing.
If I test a level it runs the level test and removes any unused segments and/or entities.
However,if I load a level into FPSC and save it without testing it and there are any unused segments/entities in it it will save the level but then FPSC freezes and I have to use the task manager to shut down FPSC and the map level editor and then fire FPSC back up.
I just assumed that I could just skip the RC5 since RC6 contained RC5's fixes as well.

Thanks for incorporating DarkLights and Dark AI into FPSC and giving it to us for free.I know you all lost a few bucks there.
If DarkLights works in FPSC anywhere near as well as what I have seen for DPB it is going to be cool.
Thanks,Lee and the other fine folks at TGC for your continued support of FPSC.

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Far freakin out, thanks TGC. What a christmas present. How cool is this. ok, ok, I'm a little happy, manage self control.


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Cant wait. Great news.

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Wow, that's fantastic!

Can anyone confirm the lighting / music mystery I stated earlier?


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LEE for mayor!!!!!!


LOL, great stuff, thanks!

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All hail Lee Bamber


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Just one question: Will RC7 be avaliable this week?

I'm excited about the inclusion of Dark Lights...

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Yes! Doesn't DarkLights also do the shadow of objects, much like Full Lightmapping is supposed to do, ALOOOOOTTTTT quicker? Cause for DBP you guys advertise it can be run in real time even, so the speed of it has really caught my eye. Prehaps I'll buy it for DBP...of course if I plan on using the new source code I guess I'll have to

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Quote: "Please report any more show stoppers asap"


This may not be a show stopper, but I thought I'd post it and let you decide.
the "inikeypressed" command is a bit faulty.

here's a line I used in a keypad script...


when I test it, the sound repeats while I'm just standing there.

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ATTENTION, show stopper:

Take any gun and point upwards...fire. Automatic fire is best so you can turn to see the shells before they disapear.

Notice how they do the odd anti gravity laps around your head? Also the shells are to slow. They need to be ejected a lot faster.

The removal of segments and entities from the workspace seems to be working perfect and kudos on that.
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Well i have to say i have been a supporter of FPSC from the EA version.
I have never complained about this product.
And i have no complaints now either. For the price of this product it is the best FPS engine out there.
With the future of this product ever improving i have even higher praise.
Now with darklights plus darkAI for a free add on you cant beat it.
I am 110% happy and i cant wait to see how far this product can and will go in the future.

Thanks TGC for giving us such a great product and continue to upgrade and make this THE only FPS engine worth having.


Thanks

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@NueB - I've never heard of that command...interesting. But chances are, if it is using key's from the setup.ini file, it would need to be something like this:


Where the # is one of the 'key#' entries in the ini file.

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Nice work on the update seems to be working ok so far cant wait for rc7.

Best s4

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Quote: "ATTENTION, show stopper:"


continued:

Check the attached vid about brass.

I'm sorry, my answers are limited. You must ask the right question.

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Lee, what can I say? This is awesome news looking forward to seeing Dark Lights and later on Dark AI being implemented and that even for free. FPSC is for sure the best choice I've made when it comes to a 3D Game Engine.

I've used others before, but often the way bugs were handles was very dissapointing. Also new features like you're going to implement always have cost $$$. But with FPSC we're seeing the needed upgrades (even though we have to wait at times, but they're here at least) and even some cool improvements along the way, all for free.

Guess all I can say is Thanks!

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hi just download rc6 and installed it's good but my unused entities are still on the list and the thumbnails for them are all mixed up


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Heres a bug with rc6, one shot with the tommy gun makes two holes in the wall. see attached.


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Got a bug with RC6 that hasn't happened with any other versions. The editor will do everything normal, but when I try to save the editor it gets 'locked' and won't function again until I reinstall FPSC and restart my computer. And I still can't save after that. Sigh.
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