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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / BSP Help (Demo code?)

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SpecTre1
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Hello I am asking for a bit of help as I have not used this side of DB Pro yet as am new to this!!!

Could any post some code or dirrect me to a site where it explains any good map making editors that can be used for DB Pro BSP, including compiling tiles and textures and also a bit of code to use it, load and walkthrough!!!?

Your help would be much apreciated!

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Comon guys how about a bit of help for this novice?



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To build BSP files, you really need to use something like Hammer, although it has been specifically tailured for HalfLife level construction, it can be used for general BSP construction. Find Hammer at http://www.valve-erc.com/content/?page=utilities

I've also supplied a simple test program that you can modify to load in BSP files. Note that BSP files with textures must have the texture WAD file in the same directory as your BSP.

Experiment with the tools and code so you can get a feel for how it all fits together.

Enjoy!!

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Thanks alot Apex!

Nice to see a forum with helpful people.



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No prob, keep in touch

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To give an alternative view, here at the studio we have been using GMAX and a publicaly available .MAP exporter to build our BSP's. THe tools in gmax are much more friendly (and powerfull) than hammer. you can get it FREE at http://www.discreet.com/products/gmax/ it also with an add on script export .x, .3ds, .lwo objects. We have had nothing but great luck with the product.

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Richard Barnes, I'm hearing good things about GMAX, my only concern for not using it yet was the .X export script, are they also available from Discreet's site?

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hmmmm, I've looked in there and can't find .MAP or .X exporter?

Where are they Richard Barnes?

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@Richard Barnes

"it also with an add on script export .x, .3ds, .lwo objects."

Really? I have GMAX and I can't find any export plugins of those. I'd be really interested to hear where you got them from. I could definately use them myself.

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I'm going to have to look into this.

Step 48 of the instructions:
"48. If your preferences are set correctly and you have all the tools installed you just created a .map file of your level. After the .map file is saved the compiler will start and compile this .map file into a .bsp file."

I think the BSP stuff comes with the Quake 3 Tempest add-on, but i'm not sure because id software's website isn't working.

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you use the tempest game pack for .map exports try looking at
http://www.gmaxsupport.com for this.

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what about .x support?

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I can't get hammer to work how'd you do it APEXnow? I load the files into DBPro but theres no level and the camera's always in a different position. One time x = 5000;y=0.233; and z=90 and the next it could be completely different! No level weird camera...any suggestions APEXnow?

We could have handled that better.
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Have you made sure that you've used SET BSP CAMERA so that the level is displayed correctly? Also make sure that you've not enabled SET BSP CAMERA COLLISION before positioning your camera. DBPro attempts to automatically correct the camera position so that it doesn't collide with BSP geometry. Make sure these are done and let me know how you get on. Also, what exactly is the problem when setting up Hammer?

Chainer, if you're having trouble with Hammer, have you thought about using GMAX and Tempest for creating map files for DBPro. go to http://www.discreet.com/products/gmax/ to download it, it's free.

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the maps I construct to them with QuArK 6.3. as I can insert ogetti in maps bsp with the dbrpo help!!! in order to unload QuArK 6.3.

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~quark/

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the maps I construct to them with QuArK 6.3. as I can insert objects in maps bsp with the dbrpo help!!! in order to unload QuArK 6.3.

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~quark/
help!!!!!!!!!

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darkdomy, I'm sorry for sounding ignorant but could you try to elaborate on your question, I didn't understand it very well. I can appreciate that Italian to English translation can be a nitemare

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hello I want to insert objects 3d in one map bsp help!!!!

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Richard Barnes
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The gmax script for diffrent model types are located @

http://www.worldzone.net/games/azrael_dark/PROJECT_ZERO/GMAX.html

I would get the Game Level builder (GAME LEVEL BUILDER 2.0 ) tools right away they have everything you need to export MAP files, you may need the tempest game pack to get the .map exporter working right. Once you have the map files you can use the bsp compiler that comes with DBPro to compile them. O we had some problems with texturing the levels when the textures where not in the same fodler as the .map file.

Another great place for Gmax/Max scripts is http://www.scriptspot.com/start.htm They have one of the most complete script libraries there, including scripts for .x file optimization (Meshtools 2.5 it says Max4.0 I know but we have used it in gmax)

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nice one m8


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hello as I can insert objects in darkbasicpro? I want to insert objects in the maps bsp. thanks

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You can use the Entity classes for placing user defined objects into your BSP files. To access the entity information from inside DarkBASIC Professional, download and use the following tools.

http://www.realgametools.net/forums/attachments/bsp_entity_tools.zip

This adds entity enquiry capability to DarkBASIC Professional which basically scans your BSP files and tells you information you need to know for creating your game objects in the right locations.

Hope that helps.

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Can you use fog with Bsp maps

Anyone

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