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Dark GDK / So, should one go for Dark GDK or Dark GDK.NET?

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Eisenhund
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Does any one have any preferences or suggestions?
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James Bondo
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The two packages is (as far as i know) virtually identical when it comes to functionality.

So your choice should fall on the language you feel most comfortable with.

My projects: http://thecyborg.adsl.dk/programming/DGDK/

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Posted: 31st Jan 2007 01:49
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yep, both dgk's are based on the same source

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I obviously can't comment since I use both! But... I also agree with JB, if you're a C++ person, then DGDK, otherwise if you're eager to use Visual Basic or C#, DGDK.NET performs on the same level.

I will add that you may find setting up DGDK.NET easier since there does tend to be complications for a small minority of people who use the DGDK (C++) toolkit, but that's normally associated with minor differences in each developer's system and availability of libraries etc.

It's your choice:

Door No.1 - DGDK (C++) Compatable with C++ Express version available from Microsoft, and of course the bulk commercial versions.

or

Door No.2 - DGDK.NET, usable with all of the Express development tools available from Microsoft.



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Posted: 31st Jan 2007 03:30 Edited at: 31st Jan 2007 03:31
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Quote: "...otherwise if you're eager to use Visual Basic or C#,... "


Visual Basic .NET, not visual basic, huge diff

Quote: "Door No.2 - DGDK.NET, usable with all of the Express development tools available from Microsoft."

AND all bulk commercial versions of Visual Studio .NET



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Ok ok, slipped my mind, but I was too busy admiring that ED-209 model CR

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So, I guess my last question then is compiled sizes and run times. I would guess that VC++ creates smaller executables that run faster than one would be able to do in .NET with the GDK? If so, how much difference does one see? Also, why does ED-209 sound so familiar?
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Posted: 31st Jan 2007 11:29 Edited at: 31st Jan 2007 11:31
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I dont know about the sizes in C++ version.

But a typical simple (no media) game made with C#, the exe file will range from 20-64KB + eventual DLL files if you use plugins (see DarkEngine) that adds another 200-300KB

EDIT: oh, and runtime installer is 4.75MB. Also, a fairly decent version of DirectX is needed, but people will need this sooner or later anyways.

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Quote: "I would guess that VC++ creates smaller executables..."

no. due to the nature of the .NET framework and JIT compiling .NET exe's are tiny

Quote: "...that run faster than one would be able to do in .NET with the GDK? If so, how much difference does one see?"

Paul uses both and from what I gather there isnt really a difference with most things, or if so, its negligible - but dont quote me on that.

Quote: "Also, why does ED-209 sound so familiar? "

its the file name of a cool robot model from turbosquid that Apex found last night, unless of course you know a guy named Ed-209, then that might explain it

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Quote: "why does ED-209 sound so familiar? "


Probably because you've seen it before:



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Quote: "ts the file name of a cool robot model from turbosquid that Apex found last night, unless of course you know a guy named Ed-209, then that might explain it "


You mean none of you have seen RoboCop

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haha, I knew the bot looked like that, never knew the bots name from the movie. Lol. Im getting old

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Quote: "You mean none of you have seen RoboCop "


Now you're being silly . Seriously, if people haven't seen or even heard of the films, they've lived a very sheltered life.

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Good old Anmatronic(sp?) days

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I just got DGDK.net and am going with VB.net. This should make it easier to learn. I haven't had much time to play with it yet, but will soon

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Lost In Thought !!!!! Nice one mate, nice one

You'll probably want to get ahold of the CSM importer to. It's on the 3DWS forum as well, but I may need to update it if you have the 1.0.7.0 update, (which is still pending due to site updates), then you will probably need a new update of the plugin.

Anyrate, nice one

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congrats LIT, welcome aboard

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