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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / DBC/DBP Convention 2003 in UK (^_^)

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 11th May 2003 12:32
see and right there is the difference between the artist & coder
artists generally have better understandings of depth, movement, etc... so it is possible to perform well within quick situations that don't require alot of thinking

it is true though most develops generally do make good gamers because they make game they want to have fun and a challenge playing, however in general did you know the US has the worst games players in the world? Alot of UK and Japanese games have to actually be made easier for them

as for Hidden&Dangerous, i only got to play that online ... and because it was more of a strategy and about being skillful than shooting anything that moved it wasn't ever really too popular. That as the modem code was truely aweful (i once got stuck running in a circle for 2minutes)
i swear you ever hear 'ardend CS players talk about how "good" it is? they make out like its some huge tactical affair.
I don't think apart from natural selection any of the Half-Life games are tactical... atleast not the way everyone plays them.

in most your instantly reborn, and in CS or DoD you may not be reborn but everyone dies so quick or the round is so short (oftenly 5mins) that there is no room for being tactical.
thing is when you set the times higher to like 10-20mins per round, people just leave because they run off ... die in 5seconds and then realize they've gonn be waiting forever.
(CS is about as tactical as a goldfish with a frying pan)

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Ian T
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Posted: 11th May 2003 23:54
Stars! is brilliant, but I've never played it any way but single player. Email games are just... well... it seems kind of like playing a chess game via snail mail

Isn't it sad what happened to Supernova Geneis?

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Dr DooMer
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Posted: 12th May 2003 00:59
I'm in the middle of an email game right now with some friends; it's not that slow if all your players are dedicated, which mine aren't at the moment. I usually play as Super-Stealth, but I've been banned for this game because I 0wz3d everyone last time!

I haven't really taken much notice to Supernova, but I have liked to have seen a sequel to Stars anyway.

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Ian T
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Posted: 12th May 2003 05:03
Super-Stealth is really fun . I love doing hit-and-runs on enemy mineral packet and freighter routes with a fleet of light stealth fighters... and then raiding the mining planet with a fleet they never saw until it hit them

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Martyn Pittuck
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Posted: 27th May 2003 18:53 Edited at: 27th May 2003 18:58
RAVEN
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but its also where Martyn lives (like that'll help anyone hehee) ... think it begins with a B "

B

B

B

Harlow = H

H

H

H

Grrrrr

Ok, well it had better not be too far away from me. I don't like cycling too far

Hehe, best place in essex. We can even crash the bowling alley and argu there, or kick in some pikies

The Outside is a evil place to be, too much light, too much noise and too many distractions....
I went outside once and my FPS rate dropped to 5.
Shadow Robert
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Posted: 27th May 2003 18:59
lol... i'm sure some of us can see what we can do about picking up a few guys - that is if we could be told exactly what is going to happen and planning should really be done by now and prices for entry should really be getting taken as we only have like 2months to go

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Martyn Pittuck
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Posted: 27th May 2003 19:47
Well for £30 you can sleep in my front garden.

And we can crash in the town park for free. Problem solved.

The Outside is a evil place to be, too much light, too much noise and too many distractions....
I went outside once and my FPS rate dropped to 5.
adr
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Posted: 27th May 2003 20:12
How about we host it in DB's home town of Wigan (I think it is anyway). We can take in all the sites - shopping trollies, gold chains, fat birds...



I originally come from Wigan, so I'm allowed to say what I like about it.



Shadow Robert
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Posted: 27th May 2003 21:57
lmao... for £30 i could probably get a just outta town B&B
(^_^) we could take a tour of DBS Studios all 12square ft, one of the Mrs' of the team might even offer to make us all a cuppa

that'd be quite amusing, considering that ironically this bedroom developer product is still being developer from DBS's bedrooms hahaa

we are gonna have to get these guys into a proper studio sometime

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The Outside is a evil place to be, too much light, too much noise and too many distractions....
I went outside once and my FPS rate dropped to 5.
Ian T
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Posted: 29th May 2003 20:49
Any news on the convention?

Be sure to take pictures

--Mouse

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Andy Igoe
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Posted: 30th May 2003 02:58
Quote: "We can even crash the bowling alley and argu there, or kick in some pikies"


Speaking of Pikies in Harlow, I used to hang out down Megakart when it was open - I did some free marshalling and in exchange I got free racing.

This was all swell and good, particularly as the racing was almost as much time as the marshalling but one day...


You see the problem starts because I take my racing seriously, I raced to RACMSA regulations back then and I was quite an accomplished Go-Karter, the RACMSA incidentally where at that time the governing body of motorsport in the UK.

So to me, if I want a word with a driver because they are being 'over-excited' then I give them the black flag. That doesn't meen they are disqualified, it meens the clerk of the course (ie: me) wants them in the pits now for a good talking too, after which they may or may not be allowed to continue.

In professional racing the answer is often no, but in rental racing it just meens I want to cool them off a little bit. In either case it is given when visual cautions have not been obvserved and a verbal warning is required.

Had I known that the Megakart briefing had recently changed their disciplinary rulings I would never have 'disqualified' a certain Mr. Gumbal.

Now if you live near Harlow, you know who the Gumbals are. And yours truly well and truly ****** off Harlow's version of the Godfather.

I had him foaming at the mouth and threatening to kill me at the trackside, and all because I didn't mind a bit of argy bargy but I felt he should cool it off a little bit because his driving style was getting out of hand.

He actually accepted that he was driving dangerously, the 'confusion' of the death threats was because I disqualified him rather than cautioned him first - and that was because of... well anyway you get the idea.

He didn't kill me by the way, i'm still here and I don't recall even blinking, but I do recall sighing in huge relief when I walked outside and he wasn't waiting.

Harlow is a lovely town, really it is......

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Posted: 30th May 2003 04:03
Death threats, no matter how baseless and shallow they are, are often enough to make anyone tense for a while. I've recieved my fair share of them x-d

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Martyn Pittuck
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Posted: 30th May 2003 16:33 Edited at: 30th May 2003 16:33
ahem, the pikes ask for 10p, if you are broke they beat you up, and if you say piss off they get lary. But luckily for me, i had just been on a Ju-Jitsu course

He grabbed my hand like he was shaking it then squezed hard and threatened me.

He was on the floor in a second with a broken wrist and my foot in his face. Then his so called big brothers legged it

The police never got involved, and the pikies left, which was lucky. I hate fighting and really hate the sound of bones braking.

The Outside is a evil place to be, too much light, too much noise and too many distractions....
I went outside once and my FPS rate dropped to 5.
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Posted: 30th May 2003 18:27
Hey Martyn, what grade are you up to in jujitsu?

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Andy Igoe
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Posted: 30th May 2003 18:29
I used to mouth off when I was a kid about all the martial arts I could do, and I could do them too - amazingly enough, it only served to get me into even more fights.

Now all I can do is drink coffee, and nobody bothers me.

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Martyn Pittuck
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Posted: 30th May 2003 19:53
Brown bu i stopped going.

But now i still do nto get into many fights, but it is funny when people jump on my back, they always end up somewhere close to the floor

The Outside is a evil place to be, too much light, too much noise and too many distractions....
I went outside once and my FPS rate dropped to 5.
Solidz Snake
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Posted: 30th May 2003 21:45
Better put a future note on ur fridge, so that ur kids (soon) won't hop on for a surprise piggy back ride!

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Andy Igoe
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Posted: 30th May 2003 21:55
You grease your back or something? I bet that stinks a bit by the afternoon.

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Martyn Pittuck
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Posted: 30th May 2003 22:18
lol

i only been able to do a stomach throw once, wh here know what that is?

The Outside is a evil place to be, too much light, too much noise and too many distractions....
I went outside once and my FPS rate dropped to 5.
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Posted: 30th May 2003 22:45
I'm good at Tae Kwon Do, but no black belt... all the teachers are this area are worse than I am, however. Really annoying.

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Solidz Snake
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Posted: 31st May 2003 00:45
August is soooo slooooow ..

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Posted: 31st May 2003 02:11
Harlow sounds like Hull, just replace pikes with townies.

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Posted: 31st May 2003 03:27
That doesn't make sense to me, is the word townie no longer used by pikies to describe people who live in amongst civilisation and contribute toward society as a respectable tax paying citizen?

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Posted: 31st May 2003 12:19
No, go to Hull and you'll see what I'm on about Pneu.

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Posted: 31st May 2003 13:47
I just recently got my black belt in jujitsu , however I've never had to use it to defend myself. What on earth is a stomach throw? The only related thing I can think of is rear throw...

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Posted: 31st May 2003 18:20 Edited at: 31st May 2003 18:28
Wow, is it just me, or is every1 on this fourm a master of everything, world class gamers, great programers, and matrial arts masters..... lol jk. im a purple belt in tae kwon do, but it was gettin kinda expensive and not like it would help me in a ifght or anything, i would end up street stylin it anyway, but yah. Im ok at gmaing. i suck at fps online, but i can play 1 player no problem. I once completed Half Life, the origonal, on hard dificulty without gettin hurt, and NO, i didnt just keep doin it over, i quicksaved not very offten. But stratagie games r 4 me, but only online. I suck at them off line, its kinda weird

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Posted: 31st May 2003 18:59
jikishin Ju-Jitsu is what i did

we had a 5th Dan Sensi, which was cool as gradings were free for us

I used to take the classes, 30 mins of it anyway, 15 mins exercise, 15 mins basic defence etc. sometimes i did the whole lesson.

Stomach throw is like valley throw (Purple Belt), it is 1st or 2nd Dan Brown Belt stuff, basically its like in the movies. Someone runs up to u and u use their motion against them. To do this you grab thier arms, put your foot in their stomach, roll backwards and kick like hell. Done properly it can kill, done not properly you end up with an attacker ontop of you.

Can also be used as a defence against a knife, or batton.

There is a counter move It is quite simple, but you need you be moving fast as landing on somones head a) hurts, b) can be messy and c) it hurts.

Life sucks, like know an indian Death Lock and 42 pressure points on the body, you realise how little chance you have of living to 80.

hehe, i might go back soon. Learn some more. I do archery now, thats fun, it might seem boring but it takes a lot of concentration and mental training to be good.

Just imagin trying to do the same set of movements millimeter right each time, oh well i had better go back to what i do best

The Outside is a evil place to be, too much light, too much noise and too many distractions....
I went outside once and my FPS rate dropped to 5.
Shadow Robert
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Posted: 1st Jun 2003 08:05
Quote: "Death threats, no matter how baseless and shallow they are, are often enough to make anyone tense for a while"


mouse it kinda makes you even more tense when they actually shoot at you ... infact the term "natural laxitive" is probably closer.

martyn 42 pressure point... but try getting to most of them on someone 300lbs you're more likely to get stuck in the rolls hahaa
however it is a point you know that your suppose to learn alot of Martial Arts is for self-defense, cept to be honest Self-Defense plays a very small roll.

I mean you learn attacks, and you learn counters and even counter-attacks ... the whole Art is a form of physical ballet. With the idea of being able to beat your opponent by using the balance of the spirit
you know you actually have increased strength and agility if you learn to balance all the moves you do, learning about weights and counter-balance knowing where your centre of gravity is and how your shifting your weight (and energy) to its maximum potential.

Best way for that all to be explained is the 3" Punch, focus and balance are the key ... with very little action you can hit someone not only winding them sevearly but also hitting them back several feet. I was kinda taught howto do it before my tutor died, although i still can't grasp the move fully i saw him used a few times when teaching more advanced students - could hit these people back a good 6-7ft one time he even broke 2 ribs in this one lad.
I mean it is scarey stuff when you think about it eh

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Posted: 1st Jun 2003 10:39
Quote: "mouse it kinda makes you even more tense when they actually shoot at you "


I've been shot at twice, and the reason i'm here aint because of marshall arts.

In the real world, this is what saves you:



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Posted: 1st Jun 2003 14:37
Oh yeah, senior brown belt, stomach throws (5). I've never seen one done.

I'd like to create a game in which you are fighting in a martial arts style, not unlike in the Matrix. You'd have to time your blocks rather than just holding a 'guard' button. You could set your opponent off balance, or grab their wrist while blocking and do various throws/locks.

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Posted: 1st Jun 2003 20:05 Edited at: 1st Jun 2003 20:05
Well i got 4th place in the international competition

pretty good eh? and i was not that old.

Raven, Martial arts are not just about self-defence, although self-defence itself is an attack.

I could defend myself against a knife or bat a close quatars, but i would disable my opponent as it is logical.

Fighting is all about a state of mind, being able to push past pain and focus is hard. I spent 2 years trainging the world champion opf the under 16s. In my mind he was undisiplined and he won casue the judges could not see through his anger.

I did a sparing compo once (Got knoced out, Doh!) and i ancutally just sat down for 15 mins bofere my go half meditating . The kid i trained had his father phsycing him up, he went in and swang like hell. I also trained 3 national golds and 2 silvers, they were on random attack. They were good, they learnt about how to predict movements they tracked weight ballence and how to shift it and dissable an opponent.

May favourite event was the kata, open hand or weapon. I spent hours with a blindfold on going over and over the moves, but someone read my name wrong off the paper and i did not get called.

Then this year i gave up, i still do kata and do some practice. But i do not have the time to spend hours every week to get good again, but then again i do miss it, and i am all creaky now. No time like the present to start again

The Outside is a evil place to be, too much light, too much noise and too many distractions....
I went outside once and my FPS rate dropped to 5.

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