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Travis Gatlin
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Hey im trying too learn Python. any advice?

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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 12:43
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Go and learn it


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Travis Gatlin
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 22:36
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besides that lol

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Clbembry
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I've always wondered if it's even worth it to learn Python to develop games and programs when you have C++. I bought a couple books on Python a while ago. I never downloaded a compiler or anything, but it definitely doesn't have the support like C++ does.

Who knows, maybe some day I'll come crawling back to Python.

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AndrewT
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Posted: 6th Jul 2009 02:36 Edited at: 6th Jul 2009 02:38
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Quote: "I've always wondered if it's even worth it to learn Python to develop games and programs when you have C++. I bought a couple books on Python a while ago. I never downloaded a compiler or anything, but it definitely doesn't have the support like C++ does."


For most hobbyist game developers, there is very little reason to use C++. Making a game in C++ will take drastically longer than making a game with a language like DBP or C# or even Python, because you have so much more to worry about in the department of bugs. Because you have so much more control over your memory management and what not, there is a lot more that can go wrong in C++ if you don't have a solid and extensive understanding of the language. It's used in many commercial games because of the speed boost, but honestly there are very few reasons for a hobbyist to be using C++, unless they're seriously considering going into game development professionally.

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Travis Gatlin
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i didnt know most developers used C++ wow i just thought there was a special language for it!

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AndrewT
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Quote: "i didnt know most developers used C++"


Most commercial game developers. Indie game developers sometimes use C++, but often use a tool like Unity because of the increased speed of development. And software (non-game) developers often use a language like C# or sometimes VB because of the increased dev speed, but also because of the large amount of support for WinGUI.

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Travis Gatlin
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i wish unity was free cuz i want it soooo bad!
ya know i wish i could learn C++,C#,C,BASIC,darkBASIC,python,HMTL,and FPI scripting
i know it is alot but it would be worth it

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Travis Gatlin
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Sorry For Bumping,But I found A cool editor that is Python Powered
and i really want to learn it because it was actually used to make some of disney's games (plus it is almost as powerful as DBP) Plus it is FREE!!!!!!

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QuothTheRaven
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First of all, your avatar is a confederate flag.

Second of all, your question is a trainwreck. "Any advice?" is not answerable. Are you stuck on something? We can help with specific questions, not "fill in everything I'm missing about everything."

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Quote: "I've always wondered if it's even worth it to learn Python to develop games and programs when you have C++. I bought a couple books on Python a while ago. I never downloaded a compiler or anything, but it definitely doesn't have the support like C++ does."

Python is a text manipulation language. It's very good at that. Use the right tool for the right job. I'm sure games have been written in python but comparing it to C for game development capabilities doesn't make any sense.

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Travis Gatlin
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Quote: "First of all, your avatar is a confederate flag."

READ THE SIGNATURE! \/

Well What i meant by any advice is Like what to start off with and tips and stuff like that

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Joe T
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Quote: "Python is a text manipulation language. It's very good at that. Use the right tool for the right job. I'm sure games have been written in python but comparing it to C for game development capabilities doesn't make any sense."


While Python is very good at text manipulation, it is also very good at many other tasks. AndrewT has it right: C++ has speed, low level operations and a vast user base on its side, and so is great for things like libraries, drivers and performance intensive applications, but nowadays you can get most other things done far faster and safer in a language like Python. Most game logic does not need to be blisteringly fast and so the majority of a game could certainly be written in Python. In fact, the performance requirements of most indie games are nowhere near high enough to warrant writing any part in a low-level language like C++.

@travis gatlin - The Python website has many resources you can look at. If you are enthusiastic and motivated then Python should be a breeze to learn (it was for me).
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QuothTheRaven
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Quote: "READ THE SIGNATURE! \/"

I'm from the south too but I don't support racism and slavery.

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Travis Gatlin
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me neither!

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I can honestly say that only Python game I have ever played was frets on fire, and it was slow as hell and had tons of problems.

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Joe T
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Quote: "I can honestly say that only Python game I have ever played was frets on fire, and it was slow as hell and had tons of problems."


I too have played frets on fire, and found it to be slow and buggy. I doubt this is due to limitations in Python, and more due to bad design.
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Travis Gatlin
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How Do you Know its python?

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thenerd
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just because one game is bad doesn't mean they are all bad. I have made quite a few games with python. but for making games, db is still much better.


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Travis Gatlin
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Yeah But i already know DB i want a better challenge besides the easiest language out there!

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ok then, the only good toolkit for games is pygame (2d).

if you want 3d your gonna need to use either:
-panda3d (hard but powerful)
or
-pyopengl (impossible to get to work)


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Travis Gatlin
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hey! ive got panda! i will just use that

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Its been a long while since i've tried using python so if i mess up this correct me. Python can be used in combination with c++ and some other languages in order to create a game. All your work in Python would be modules for the other language your using. I know of atleast one game that was part Python part something else.

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