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baxslash
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Posted: 21st Jul 2009 02:18 Edited at: 14th Aug 2009 00:43
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Updated Demo attached!!!

Added:
Cursors
Family Commands (Create from Limbs not yet working, sorry)

Be Kind, it's a WIP.

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Posted: 21st Jul 2009 03:36 Edited at: 21st Jul 2009 03:36
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Looks good-- is it a lightmapper or can you actually import/position objects?

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Posted: 21st Jul 2009 03:48
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@Sixty Squares-
Quote: "scale/rotate and place my 3DS, X and DBO models"


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Posted: 21st Jul 2009 10:42
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To start with you'll be able to scale/rotate/move objects and add lightmaps.

I also need to be able to delete faces and flip normals so I'll be doing some vertex manipulation too (I could use other software for this so I'll see how it goes).

The main focus for me once I can insert my objects as I want is to add lightmapping, after that I'll be finishing my game "Escape-The Living Dead" before I do any more with my Editor.
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Posted: 21st Jul 2009 19:22
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Looks great baxslash, I'll be following this.

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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 13:19
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I have just been updating the look of the Editor UI (looked a bit dull), what do you think?

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Posted: 24th Jul 2009 00:46 Edited at: 24th Jul 2009 00:48
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Demo added!!!

Check first post. Enjoy!

One point is that I am still working on selecting Vertices from imported objects so don't expect it to work just yet, sorry!

PS. It's going to be FREE!!!!
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Posted: 24th Jul 2009 01:02
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Great, except when you go to import an object, you shouldn't have to select a format.

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Posted: 24th Jul 2009 01:07 Edited at: 24th Jul 2009 01:10
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Why not?

I only ask because I tend to know what format I have saved my models in and I would normally store them by type... but then maybe I'm a little strange...
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That is a little strange... Why don't you just stick to one format when you make your models?

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Posted: 24th Jul 2009 10:52 Edited at: 24th Jul 2009 10:54
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Is it really that strange?

I don't always use my own model, which I tend to save as 3DS. Sometimes I use other people's models such as the characters and scenery from FPSC which are in X.

Also I save any finished levels as Dbo once I have added my components in.

Would you rather see all possible filetypes then or an option in the load screen?

What do you think of the rest of the editor so far?
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Posted: 24th Jul 2009 12:35
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Very nice editor!

It's a little bit strange for me when using it. Basicly the steps you have to do to change the object (rotate, etc), I guess it just needs getting used to like any other program.

I feel that it needs a grid. Just for the ease of thinking, because when you rotate the camera and you're not used to what line colour is what axis it can get the brain in a bit of a tangle.

The scale thing for me doesn't work or I don't know how to use it.

I seriously have to ask, how do you have the file/edit/tools etc bars???? I would love to know.

Great work so far.
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Posted: 24th Jul 2009 12:53
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Thanks for your comments.

I am planning on adding a grid at some point, good suggestion.

Scale is not working yet, sorry!

The menu bar is made with Blue GUI a purchased dll system you can find here:
http://www.robertknight.me.uk/blue2/site/
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Posted: 25th Jul 2009 00:14
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You should allow to automatically get the filetype from the file extension, really... that'd be nice and easy

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 00:18 Edited at: 11th Aug 2009 18:48
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A quick update:



I have added a few new features and taken some suggestions on board.

New features:
Textures-Objects can be textured and the texture can be scaled and scrolled.
Rotation-Now works a little better.
Scale-Also works now for most types of object.
Grid-Has been added which scales automatically depending on zoom level (no "snap to grid" as yet). EDIT: Snap to Grid Added
Parent/Child Mode-To edit my new multi-layered objects.
Box-Is now a multi-layered object (sides of the box can be edited/textured/deleted indipendently).
Room-Is a new multi-layered object (sides can be edited as with box but are only visible from inside where boxes are visible inside and out).
Centre View-User can select a point on an object/space to centre the camera view upon.
Import-Now gives the user the option to import any of the 3 types of object from the "Import" dialogue.

In progress:
Export-I am working on the export function.
View-Various new view modes in progress.
Light mapping-This is the next big issue after Export.
EDIT: Group-To create multi-layered objects

I'll post this version of the "Demo" once I have Export working I guess...
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Wow, looks very nice and proffesional. I'll be sure to check this out when the new release is out.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 23:27
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Ok I just tried it out. It does look professional but there are some major issues that I can see. First there is no New selection. Where you can just start a new project.

Also adding models isnt very friendly. I couldnt even get one to display. I tried to move a cube around and couldn't figure it out. Save with scaling and rotating. Im sure the functions you have work. You just need better implementation. I Should be able to use the mouse to select, then move scale and rotate objects. Well at least thats how I think it should be done. Nobody is going to use a difficult product.

But Overall it does look very professional and its a great start. Keep up the good work.
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Posted: 12th Aug 2009 00:00 Edited at: 12th Aug 2009 00:01
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@Dave W
Quote: "First there is no New selection. Where you can just start a new project."


I haven't actually implimented any "Save, Load, New Project" options yet so you are right there! I am trying to get the editor to work properly before it can save "projects".

Quote: "Also adding models isnt very friendly. I couldnt even get one to display."


I thought the menu was fairly simple, File->Import? (If this is not working then please let me know!)

Quote: "I tried to move a cube around and couldn't figure it out. "


I appreciate I may have my own ideas how to "Add/Move/Rotate/Scale", but could you suggest why this did not make sense? I tried to add some hints either in the bar at the bottom of the screen or in the "mouse hint" box. I am making this mainly for myself but if I can help future users I will be Very Happy

Quote: "Save with scaling and rotating."


Is this not working?

Quote: "I Should be able to use the mouse to select, then move scale and rotate objects."


Is your mouse not working?
All actions in the editor can be accessed by clicking on the menu or toolbar buttons... all of which work fine for me! I have tried to make all functions fairly "standard" in how they work for CAD software. Maybe I need to make a "User Guide"

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ok so when i tried to add a sphere and went through the size columns and what not it crashed.(i did have a model imported)

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Posted: 13th Aug 2009 22:46
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@Azunaki, I'll have a try with the demo but it might be a moot point as I have made a million changes since then (PS.I am prone to exageration).

Updated version due V.Soon!!! Many bugs fixed and features added.
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Posted: 14th Aug 2009 00:48
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And less than 2 hrs later a new demo.

Check the first post!
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Posted: 14th Aug 2009 00:55
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Here is a new screenshot and a new demo in the first message!

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ok so gave it a stress test.... and it gave me this error.
runtime error 7029 - 3D Memory Error at line 941
(600 size 600 rows 600 colums...)lol

ok and the i pressed s and i got a message that said press enter to finish selection, but i have nothing to select and enter isn't doing anything.

ok after restarting the program adding an object and testing it scaleing works but it doesn't scale the white vertex box.

also an undo and redo feature would be really nice.

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Quote: "runtime error 7029 - 3D Memory Error at line 941"

Usually means your graphics card ran out of memory. Well, at least it did to me whenever I was working on Dynamic shadows.

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@Azunaki, Thanks for testing, yes there are some keyboard shortcuts I've put in.

S-Scale
M-Move
R-Rotate
C-Centre View
T-Texture Panel
Q-Quit current action

The important one here is:
Q-Quit current action

This is all I have for the moment as Undo and Redo get rather complicated and I couldn't be bothered just yet. I will be adding them in at some point though thanks for the input!

It just stops anything you change your mind about half way through!

As for why your graphics card ran out of memory I don't know...this software is far from being graphics heavy at the moment...
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Good work, i see. Keep this up.

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lol 600*600 isn't easy on a computer....

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VERY nice! May I ask: what GUI did you use?

Thanks

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Hi Jeff, it's mainly BluGUI with some of my own stuff added. The buttons, hints, general interface including the texture panel are mine. BlueGUI is used here for the 'Windows' style menu bar.

Thanks for looking!

I'm working on this project at the moment. Lots to do though!
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