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FPSC Classic Models and Media / Firma Segment Maker

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Nickydude
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 02:14
You can't create two sides to a floor, only to a wall, the floor gets covered in one texture only (unless you one image with two textures side by side and try that).

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DarkFact
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 02:25
Quote: "You can't create two sides to a floor, only to a wall, the floor gets covered in one texture only (unless you one image with two textures side by side and try that)."


You can use 2 segments for the floor. The bottom for the ceiling, the top for the floor. Delete the top/bottom faces to optimize it and assign the two textures for ceiling and floor. Works quite well.

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Jeffrey Morris
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 04:03
Quote: "You can use 2 segments for the floor. The bottom for the ceiling, the top for the floor. Delete the top/bottom faces to optimize it and assign the two textures for ceiling and floor. Works quite well."


DarkFact, how do I do this and which program do I need?
DarkFact
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 04:22
I use the Segment Editor tool from TGC. You can get it in downloads. (Sorry for bringing this up in the thread, I forgot where I was. )

Please continue with the topic. ~DF

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 04:45
As it happens I did write a one off version for Rebourn Games that would allow you to use different textures for the top surface and bottom surface of a floor segment. If you ask him nicely maybe he'll upload his Firma.exe for you.

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Nickydude
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 10:08
Well, you learn something everyday!

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Jeffrey Morris
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 12:54
Will there be a new version of Firma program that allows me to use different textures for top and bottom surfaces of floor segment. I wrote a program using Dark BASIC Pro to display the room segment but it was covered in one texture instead of three textures.

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Spudling
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 19:36
WOOOOW BRILIANT

I love this.

Downloading now Should beable to get my game finished by tonight

WOOOOOP

Was Hi! but Hi! Was gettin a little iritating
Nickydude
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Posted: 4th Oct 2007 19:56
FIRMA has been updated. Please see first post.

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cram
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Posted: 4th Oct 2007 20:28
Quote: "FIRMA has been updated. Please see first post"


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Jeffrey Morris
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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 03:35
I wish that I can assign different textures to top and bottom of floors while creating room segments. That feature is in the floor segment creator only.
Rebourn Games
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Posted: 6th Oct 2007 23:14 Edited at: 6th Oct 2007 23:15
can you add a option to do the top and bottom of a floor texture on room segments - thanks for adding the double sided floor feature anyway - I've been segmenting away like mad lol

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Darkfoil
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Posted: 7th Oct 2007 01:57
Ok, ok I give in lol.

I'll have a look and see if I can work out a way of texturing the top and bottom of the floors in a room segment. Making no promises though.

Darkfoil.
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Posted: 8th Oct 2007 01:54
Ok I've made the changes to the program and sent a copy to Nickydude to test. Hopefully it will work ok and he will make it available for download.

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Nickydude
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Posted: 8th Oct 2007 16:35
Update now in first post.

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Posted: 11th Oct 2007 14:32
Gah, the new update download overwrote the original download, could you re-upload the original? Thanks.


MadMaK
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Posted: 11th Oct 2007 14:36
Scuse me fot being dumb but can you load in your own Models (walls etc) into this one or does it just alter tectures ?
Nickydude
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Posted: 11th Oct 2007 18:15
Quote: "Gah, the new update download overwrote the original download"


That's what it's supposed to do. is the new update not working for you?

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Posted: 11th Oct 2007 18:24
Quote: "That's what it's supposed to do. is the new update not working for you?"


Nah, I mean that I haven't downloaded the program before, there's no way to get the original without the updates, because to use the update in the first post requires the full thing to work... I think.


Nickydude
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Posted: 11th Oct 2007 19:17
Doh, of course! Never occurred to me The full program (with update) is now attached to the first post. Oops...

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Posted: 11th Oct 2007 20:50
Heh, no problem mate, thanks.


Trinity Pictures
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Posted: 12th Oct 2007 02:18
wow! thanks! I never could make segments before

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Posted: 12th Oct 2007 23:42 Edited at: 12th Oct 2007 23:58
on the read me file it says something on the lines of copy this ver to v1
i dont hav v1 were can i get it

also i realy dont know which things to click on please when u reply to this can you exsplane it to some one as if they were a noob (im talking about which one to click on to open the actual software lol im such a noob)

ow u dont mean the one that u get of the fps website do u ???
Nickydude
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2007 02:58 Edited at: 22nd Oct 2007 02:59
You guys are in for a treat... Watch this space.

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SBOVIS
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2007 12:28
Hi,
I have used FIRMA and also MAGIC to create segments, FIRMA seem to create segments with textures in a lower resolution than MAGIC. I used the same texture on the same segment for both utilities and FIRMA was definately creating them with degraded texture resolution rather than MAGIC.

Have a go and try to compare them and you will see the differance in quality.


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Hardcore
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Posted: 26th Oct 2007 15:22
Firma is offered for free, and is a very good program it is capable of doing things magic cannot. Magic is also a good program but is not free. So I would say you get what you pay for. LOL
Lewis
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Posted: 26th Oct 2007 16:12
yes but its not hard to make the dds file better quality. i tried making a room and it felt like i was playing wolf3d.

Lewis From OsborneCreations.co.uk

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