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darimc
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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 01:59 Edited at: 17th Dec 2007 20:55
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Here is where I will be showcasing most of my work that is not fpsc ready yet.

EDIT: New barrel textures are on this post too.

mixing bowl.

barrel_1 texture

barrel_2 texture


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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 02:50 Edited at: 17th Dec 2007 20:55
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Here is a fake render of a mixing bowl. Please give comments if you see this thread.

EDIT: see first post.

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What exactly is a Fake Render?

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It is a screenie grabbed of the model and then cropped, new background and mock-up shadows. Since my modeling program can't render anything. Could you post if you like the models and textures?
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thay are so simple there isn't much to crit, there ok i guess but try to make something more complicated

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darimc
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What about the textures, they are not simple.
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your textures look ok, bit better than i can do right now. though the first image is so dark it's imposable to see it propaly

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No offense but the textures kind of are simple as well. You dont often find things that are perfectly clan in life, a lot of work could be done to dirty those models up. Add a crack in the bowl or some scratches on the inside. Add dents and smudges and splashes of mud on the barrel, right now the barrel looks more like a can.

But you also have to realize, the texture isn't everything. Yes, textures play a big part in how models look, but you should still aim for things a little more complex than a cylinder and a deformed cylinder. Afterall, would it be impressive if I posted a screenshot of a plane with a texture of the monalisa on it, and called it a portrait?

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thanks, but I don't know why the first pic is dark, it' fine on my computer.
Quote: "your textures look ok, bit better than i can do right now. though the first image is so dark it's imposable to see it propaly"


Well, I'm more of a texture artist than a modeler but you have some points. The barrel is scratched and dirty though, take a closer look. It is supposed to look relatively new, I will make a grundge version as well.
Quote: "No offense but the textures kind of are simple as well. You dont often find things that are perfectly clan in life, a lot of work could be done to dirty those models up. Add a crack in the bowl or some scratches on the inside. Add dents and smudges and splashes of mud on the barrel, right now the barrel looks more like a can.

But you also have to realize, the texture isn't everything. Yes, textures play a big part in how models look, but you should still aim for things a little more complex than a cylinder and a deformed cylinder. Afterall, would it be impressive if I posted a screenshot of a plane with a texture of the monalisa on it, and called it a portrait?"


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Quote: "thanks, but I don't know why the first pic is dark, it' fine on my computer."


mabie its becouse i actually took the time to calibrate my monitor

http://www.photofriday.com/calibrate.php

meany LCD displays come completely un calibrated with all the setings on max. this results in flataning of black shades and too much contrast between light shades. thay also tend to drasticly oversaturate reads

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Quote: "mabie its becouse i actually took the time to calibrate my monitor"


So you think that because you made a semi-realistic human model and a few chairs that you can be condescending to every new modeller that posts here?
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Sorry to tell you but I'm not new to modeling. I have been doing it for about eleven months but I have to agree with you.
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Quote: "So you think that because you made a semi-realistic human model and a few chairs that you can be condescending to every new modeler that posts here?"


How is he being condescending? What he says is true; how can you criticize a cylinder? It's like someone posting a WIP game of a sphere moving on a matrix, which has been done. Sure, it involves some minor work, but what else can you say other than "try something a little more complicated"? Nothing.

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Sorry to tell you but Im not new to modelling, I've been doing it for about 11 months..."


You may not be new to modeling, but you still need a lot of practice. A quick search reveals your latest work, aside from the above, is this; http://forum.thegamecreators.com/xt/xt_apollo_pic.php?i=1366313, which seems to be a bunch of uv-mapped boxes with very stretched and blurry textures.

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1. that work is old stuff I dug up, I'm pretty sure I mentioned it in that thread.
2. Look at the bomb before you criticize, it is almost top notch.
3. Don't even say that the fridge has a bad texture, it is good and people have told me this.
4. you shouldn't be talking, this is your latest work.
Quote: "You may not be new to modeling, but you still need a lot of practice. A quick search reveals your latest work, aside from the above, is this; http://forum.thegamecreators.com/xt/xt_apollo_pic.php?i=1366313, which seems to be a bunch of uv-mapped boxes with very stretched and blurry textures."


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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 18:40 Edited at: 16th Dec 2007 18:51
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<removed, argument settled>

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Okay, I'm sorry about arguing. There is no doubt that you are a better modeler but these models were more to show off their great textures rather than the model themselves. Truly sorry, I went over board.

cheers, darimc.

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Quote: "Ertlov's idea was okay but it was a totally buggy way of working vehicles. So, there is NO vehicles. Don't yell at the guy because he doesn't own fpsc and knows more than you. And don't have a big spaz about what I just said, I'm just fooling with you. (or am I, lol.)
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I DO OWN FPSC
GRRR how dare you. And The vehicle Script works great I used it and I have yet to find a bug!

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I didn't say you didn't own fpsc, I said he didn't. BTW, for hijacking my thread, I am reporting you to a mod. And mods can see edited posts.
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GRRR how dare you. And The vehicle Script works great I used it and I have yet to find a bug!"


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Darmic chill, you have to be able to take criticism, stop attacking everyone who tries to offer you feedback

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Quote: "And mods can see edited posts."

They can also see me not care, The fact that I'm safe so gee.
Plus I had no were else to post this the mods locked the other one you spoke in. I was going to say nice models by the way but I gusse not now! Thanks for being dumb!

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Goodman84.
Quote: "Thanks for being dumb!"

Seriously....you are the one who is acting dumb...
I dont see anything wrong in this thread...
And all of a sudden you began about Ertlov's vehicle....hmm..
or maybe i am missing something.?!?

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I don't attack anyone who gives constructive crit. If you were regarding to that 2 year old goodman guy, he wasn't even posting about the models.
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I'm glad you don't care and I can't wait to see you get a seven day ban. BTW, the reason the other thread was locked was so that it would die, duh. Who's being dumb now?
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Plus I had no were else to post this the mods locked the other one you spoke in. I was going to say nice models by the way but I gusse not now! Thanks for being dumb!"


@Cheesecake, Could you offer some constructive crits? I know you are extremely talented and you could probably help me.

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Of course...
Personal opinion...the base texture for the Barrel is good!
But it is a bit too bland.
Maybe add a logo to it...which is a bit torned of.

Also like RUCCUS said...
some smudge stains etc...

And its 1 color...maybe variate a little...
(for grunging it a bit up)
Like: metal, rust, and some parts a bit darker than the others...

Hope you understand what i just said.

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Quote: "or maybe i am missing something.?!?"


There was another topic were I thought I was being insulted thats all. I would have emailed him but I don't know his email.
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If you were regarding to that 2 year old goodman guy"

Keep Dreaming!

Quote: "I can't wait to see you get a seven day ban."

I aint getting no ban. Why you so hyper? Just calm down if i made a mistake all you had to do was correct it instead of insulting back at me I am a guy who doesn't like being told what I am or what to do , its a bad personality trate of mine. There for I have to tell you stop being a dumb O Thanks. Have fun getting nothing.

PS I aint acting dumb.

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I disagree with that statement.
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Cool, I will fix it up soon.
Quote: "Of course...
Personal opinion...the base texture for the Barrel is good!
But it is a bit too bland.
Maybe add a logo to it...which is a bit torned of.

Also like RUCCUS said...
some smudge stains etc...

And its 1 color...maybe variate a little...
(for grunging it a bit up)
Like: metal, rust, and some parts a bit darker than the others...

Hope you understand what i just said."


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Quote: "I disagree with that statement."

I disagree with your Disagreement And I'm RIGHT! ha

hehe

PS How much will these cost!?

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Okay, I will stop arguing. I'm getting a little bored . Hmm... Cost? I dunno, these are still early versions of the final models.
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hehe

PS How much will these cost!?"


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okay, I have grudged up the barrel and added a faded logo. It looks amazing and is probably the best texture I have made. Note that you can't really see the logo because of th watermark but it is there.



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I wouldn't say that it looks amazing, it is rather simple... I could even do it pretty easily, and that in itself isn't a good thing =P

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Okay, that is your opinion. Could you post a barrel texture you have made please? I would like to use someone else's texture as a reference image and see I can get mine up to par.

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Never actually made a barrel texture, I don't do barrels often

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Then do one. Of you say you could do that easily I want to see it. But until then, stop saying that it isn't any good.

I think it auctally looks pretty good, I think you have done a good job with that last texture.


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Good looking texture!

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I never said it wasn't good looking, I just said it was simple, and it pretty much is... Some dodge and burn(or the airbrush) and a gray background with a simple dirt overlay would make that effect...

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Then show us what you get by doing that.


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Thanks, glad you like it.
Quote: "Then do one. Of you say you could do that easily I want to see it. But until then, stop saying that it isn't any good.

I think it auctally looks pretty good, I think you have done a good job with that last texture."


Thanks as well.
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Keep guessing.
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Jeeze I am getting out of this, sorry if I pissed anyone off trust me it wasn't my intention. So sorry I guess...

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Okay, any people who didn't like the old one should check this one out.



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Make it seamless and it will look great =)

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oops... I forgot about that. Thanks.
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okay, here is the seamless version.


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Thats something to be proud of mate.


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Thanks, I'm glad you like it. Your pack actually inspired me to take a crack at making barrels. Over the past three days I may have improved my texturing skills by double. I'm really happy with the latest one.
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Thats a pretty darn nice texture mate! Nice work!

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Thanks, I'm gonna try and make all my work this quality.
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there pretty good

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Thanks. Glad you like them.

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The bowl should have a thicker rim to it, that bowl wouldn't be able to resist heat. Also, the normals are rather iffy, you're getting some really hard edges there. Make the bowl thicker overall, bevel the top edge, and adjust your normals, then you'll be on your way. Also, if you aren't willing to accept constructive criticism, then A) you shouldn't bother posting your work and B) you're only hindering ability to become a more skilled artist.

If you still need a look at a barrel texture, heres one I did...only its made of wood...

In Maya 3D Viewport (ie. not rendered)


UV Map


The Wood texture I used as a base (of course, highly modified in photoshop...



Good luck, continue posting your work and open up to criticism, you'd be amazed the benefits you get from listening to others opinions and trying them out on your work.

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Hey, thanks for the comments. I will work on the bowl a bit to. I am open to constructive crits but that was not what that guy was giving. Anyways, that is an amazing barrel texture. I am going for a metal style, could you maybe tell me if you like the latest one? Or tell me how to improve it.

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i like the new barrel texture in my oppinion but my favorite woukd be the ramp thing

why would i post my frigging signiture for evrey one to see? you guys are all,oh um hi
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