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DarkBASIC Discussion / DB Dangerous?

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Killswitch
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Posted: 23rd Jun 2003 21:53
I was thinking the other day about DarkBASIC now we all know what good it can do like produce some top notch games but could it be put to a bad use?

I'm talking about creating harmful programs in DB, I of course couldn't and wouldn't do so, but has anyone and has this already been noted?
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Posted: 23rd Jun 2003 22:19
This problem happens with any programming language, if it is a programming language I think for the most part, yes it can do harmful stuff.

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Posted: 23rd Jun 2003 22:28
ofcourse you can do such things... you can add or delete things in the registry, delete files in the windows folder etc, you might write a program that fills the entire hard disk so winows can't boot any more, ...

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Posted: 23rd Jun 2003 22:31
i am your father luke...come to the darkside...

included is the source code to the most vile, dangerous, and down right nasty code ever made in db.
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Posted: 24th Jun 2003 00:01
i'm too scared to run that code, i can't ell what it does :-s

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Posted: 24th Jun 2003 00:07
lol, that code is EEEEEVIIIIL.

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Killswitch
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Posted: 24th Jun 2003 22:31
Thx that clears some things up!

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Eddie Gordo
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Posted: 24th Jun 2003 22:50
lol that code doesn't run i tried it

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Posted: 24th Jun 2003 23:03
True, but did you try to read it?

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Posted: 25th Jun 2003 00:21
It dont run...heh... thats what you think...
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Posted: 26th Jun 2003 02:28
Blanka's code. Click to the source button under his message.
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Posted: 26th Jun 2003 21:13
you were stupid enough to run it?

i was wetting my self just looking at it

(joke)

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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 12:15
I wouldn't like that code in my Startup directory on my Start menu, whether it works or not...

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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 12:20
Lol! Looks like a load of data statements to me.. but there could be some hidden, evil purpose behind it !

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Here is the source code for a file that deletes Windows off of the hard drive.

(P.S. it works, so don't run it, i've tested it on my older computer, and I had to reinstall everything. It looks simple, but it's not when it comes to damage.)

Moderaters, please, this is not intended for people to use, it's very destructive, and i just want to show peole how powerful a few lines of code can be.
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Posted: 13th Jul 2003 11:12
nooooooooo windows is slipping away!!!!!! j/k
i'm very scared of that code!!!!!

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Posted: 13th Jul 2003 18:27
Post Mortem Productions:

Quote: "(P.S. it works, so don't run it, i've tested it on my older computer, and I had to reinstall everything. It looks simple, but it's not when it comes to damage.)"


Jeez - it must have been an old computer if your Windows and Program Files directories were files not folders...

But, I have to admit that if you were to run it, you would get a couple of VERY scary "File Not Found" errors. Ooh er!

Lol!

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Posted: 14th Jul 2003 01:44
nah im to evil for those kind of viruses i prefer to delete stuff 1 file at a time to prolong the torture mawhahahaha

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Posted: 14th Jul 2003 02:43 Edited at: 14th Jul 2003 02:45
HAHAHA All that code is for women. This is how DB is most harmful.



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Posted: 14th Jul 2003 05:22
You ppl dont no how to right "THE MOST EVIL CODE EVER!!!!!!!!!"
plez wait for it to fin ish loading

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Preston C
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Posted: 14th Jul 2003 06:35
People could easily create viruses in Dark Basic. Heck, I could do it. I wont test it though (There might be 3 computers in my household, but one is mine, one is my brothers, and one is my moms (she works on that, not gonna even think about using hers) so I cant really test it out. But simply put, a few change directory commands and delete file commands will fry a computer in minutes. My suggestion for making viruses in Dark Basic is 1)Dont do it, I'm sure its illegal 2)If you do it, make sure to make an autorun and disquise it as a backup or a really good game (Mech Warrior 4 anybody...*COMPUTER DESTRUCTION NOISE*.) But really, dont make viruses ever. Unless you have no idea how much in $1000s of damage repair costs you will cause, and how much you will pay if caught, and trust me, you will (I dont make viruses, I'm not sure about the caught thing.)

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Posted: 14th Jul 2003 08:49
now you tell me

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Posted: 14th Jul 2003 22:12
it wont be easy to spread a 1,7MB DB virus...

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Posted: 14th Jul 2003 23:59
a very annoying thing but not strictly a virus would be to write a program to the windows drive that would freeze the pc everytime you loaded it up and print a scary message. I can't quite disable the keys though. alt+f4 seem to still work once it is made into a .exe file.
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DB file sizes are HUGE!

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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 01:16
Ok my evil code didnt work but this will!!!!!!!!!
Load the sorce code up.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 02:39
you PC cant stand up to my code of evil!

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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 13:37
Its actualy a scary concept as I dont think a virus checker could pick up on this sort of exe file could it I mean it wont detect that it has some evil code inside at least I dont think it would. Well anyway even if it could it would mes ur pc up first wont it as you have to run it to make it an exe I think dont u.

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If you can spread a DB virus, then they'll make a virus definition for it, so it can be detected.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 20:40
Well, I'm sure there is a way to make Dark Basic files un readable by virus scanning software.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 20:41
Mwhahahaha my virus is un detecteble and its finished BUM BUM BUMMMMMMM x-d

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Posted: 16th Jul 2003 20:08
I work in an organisation that has had its systems decimated by a computer virus. Hospitals, airlines, fire brigades......they all rely on PCs, so a virus can, directly, be responsible for killing people. It's no joking or laughing matter and people who write or distribute computer viruses are immature vandals who can't see the world beyond their own sad little headspaces.
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Posted: 16th Jul 2003 21:47
well good thing my virus is a fake

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Posted: 17th Jul 2003 14:21
Shiima, it should be VERY stupid to have such important computers connected to the internet... and if they're not connected to the internet they can't be infected with a virus except when you actually go to that pc...

it also shouldnt be wise to install windows on those PC's...

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hi x-d i'm new .. just saying hi ;]
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:-s Why are all you ppl so EVIL?
lol

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I'm not evil

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neither ami. Raven is though! lol/jk

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Maybe Drifter is evil! J/K

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Posted: 19th Jul 2003 20:56
Hmmm.. Lots of talk about viruses.... I might make one... Hey, anyone know if i put a secret download on my website and someone agreed to test my virus for free... would it be illegal?

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I think viruses are illegal. They probably are too.

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if the victim agrees and knows of everything that the virus does and there is NO way the virus can spread to another computer then it is legal otherwise no

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Mattman
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Couldn't you do something like this:


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it depends on the operating system and the permisions set

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andrew11
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That wouldn't work. The directory needs to be empty before you can delete it. That means you would have to search every file and folder inside before you can delete everything.

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and I don't think c:\ can be seen as a direcory
even if you have an empty drive you cant delete it

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Posted: 25th Jul 2003 16:48
I've never been one to write virus' but I have done a few practical jokes over the years.

My first was when I first started out as a computer techie. I wrote a batch program that inserted a call command into the autoexec (we're talking DOS here, and not even version 6 - I refuse to give the version number incase you think i'm old - besides, my ageing brain can't remember).

This meant that the next time the PC started it called my little joke. It pretended to scramble the FAT of the hard disk and then format the drive, complete with ASCII graphics codes and hard disk activity.

It then called a daughter application that not only deleted the joke virus file but wiped over the last 1k of deleted disk space to completely remove all track of the 'joke'.

After which it restarted and the computer was back to normal.

My boss knew it was me because of the spelling mistakes, but it took him 2 days solid work to hypothesise what I had done...


My next prank was at college learning to code Turbo Pascal. I descovered the inbuilt sound command if played in a for next loop increments the frequency by 1 each cycle sounded very much like a jet taking off.

I compiled a simple TSR and wrote the same auto-insertion/auto-remove batch files and installed it to every machine in the college PC room during break.

When we returned after break 25 PC's all started making jet engine sounds. The lecturer was livid, the sound kept playing until they where switched off.

He ordered all machiens to be switched off (to spare our ears) then called in the IT Manager to identify the problem and bring to justice the offender. He booted the machines up and there was no sounds...

The whole class bought be a beer that afternoon and I had to get the train home.



My final joke was after my mothers boss sent her the demo of the computer game virus that pretends to delete your hard disk. So in return I wrote a simple DB Classic joke program that pretended to wipe your hard disk along with the obligatory HD activity.

Then it faded out to a 3D skeleton model and dramatic camera angles that rotated around to reveal 'Youve just experienced Sue's revenge'.

Unfortunately he didn't have DX installed and it fell flat So I changed the text and sent it to all my mates over email instead... suckers.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2003 18:57
Tell me If I'm wrong, but I don't think this "delete c:\windows" thing will work.
Isin't it true that dbpro exe and other windows exes need Windows to work?
So if you delete windows when the program is still running it will crash.
Then: If you are trying to remove C:\windows, it will take time. maybe many minutes. So there is no way the program can delete all files in the wondows directory, when some important files needed to run the program are deleted.
Offcourse the virus doesn't have to delete the whole windows directory. Even a little damage to the windows causes the computer big damage, so you probably have to re-install windows...
But my oppinion is that the whole windows directory can't be deleted with windows program.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2003 20:56
You people are all fools!
My virus: VAMPIRE, can get into your system disguised as a virus checking program! you see the windows logo and a message appears saying "Virus Detected - Please Wait..." and all the while, your important files are being copied into a folder on my machine! Nothing is sacred!

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Posted: 25th Jul 2003 21:18 Edited at: 25th Jul 2003 21:19
To be honest, I see no point into creating real viruses ... even it's also evil, trojans and worms have some interestening aspect.

That doesn't mean I made some.

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