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FPSC Classic Models and Media / WW2 Pack + Shader Pack

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alimpo83
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Posted: 5th Feb 2008 21:33 Edited at: 10th Feb 2008 13:44
EDIT:

PACK RELEASE

You can now buy this new pack, over at my site.

http://www.freewebs.com/alimpo83/index.htm

PRICE: 12 EUROS

THIS PACK HAS BEEN TESTED ONLY IN FPSC v.107, WITH THE FOLLOWING PC SPECS:
Core Duo CPU
1024(then 2048 MB RAM)
HD 2600XT with 512 MB GDDRIII with 7.9 Drivers.

If you can run FPSC then you can install this model pack.
And basically if your video card can display shaders you can use the shader pack.

You'll get:

WW2 PACK

Wrecked building type 1
Wrecked building type 2
Wrecked building type 3
Wrecked building type 4
Wrecked building type 5
Metal Structure 1
Metal Structure 2
Snow Obstacle
Pine tree

EDIT: PLUS three snow decor entities

FREE SHADER PACK

Cartoon Shader
Aura Shader
Instant Turn to Undead Shader
Ghost Shader (100% Compatible and Light affected)
Shiny Metal Shader (100% Compatible and light affected)
(Fake) Fresnel Water Shader



And for now, some screens, more to come soon!















Videos on the last post of this page.

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Leaning Objects To The Side
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Posted: 5th Feb 2008 21:49
alimpo83 what is the ETA on this pack?


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alimpo83
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Posted: 5th Feb 2008 22:04
As I say in the previous post, it's during this month, so very soon.

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Posted: 5th Feb 2008 22:11
alimpo83 thanks for the update. By The Way...you are doing a AWESOME Job!! I can't wait until this pack is ready for sale. Keep up the good work

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Posted: 5th Feb 2008 22:41
This looks like a must-buy! For the price point I would suggest $8-$10 for everything.

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Posted: 5th Feb 2008 23:23
You need to show each item, it can get fonfusing when a group is posted, I like to see them as a list, it makes it easy to see then.

Looks a usefull pack, now we have Lemur, perhaps one can make a game with fpsc classic, so it looks like I will be buying this one.

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Posted: 6th Feb 2008 00:39
I can't wait to lay my hands on your cartoon shader

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Posted: 6th Feb 2008 14:41
Yeah i think the shaders are a musthave!

Will it be possible to buy it seperate from the WW2?

alimpo83
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Posted: 6th Feb 2008 15:36
Cheese Cake,

the shaders will be a free offer with the WW2 pack, so they will not be available unless you buy it!

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Posted: 6th Feb 2008 21:58
I dont get the aura shader?

You'll Know When You See It.

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alimpo83
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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 16:09
Added three snow decors to the pack.

And the price tag will be between 8 - 15 Euros.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 16:21
Quote: "I dont get the aura shader?"

it's like bloom, but speific to the object it's applied to. You could shade all your lights with it to make them glow. It's very cool.

Dude, my only question is.... where are those shaders from? Did you code them all from scratch yourself? the shaded effect on the cartoon shader looks exactly the same as evolved/ruccus' cartoon shader on the DBpro boards.

You cant re-sell that stuff, it's in the licence.

I'm not calling you a pirate, or anything like that. I'm just interested. If you have the skill to write HLSL shaders from scratch, I'd be willing to pay you for some freelance work.

peace

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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 19:08
The shaders were taken from all over the internet, and rewritten, tweaked and so to work in FPSC. And as you can read, they are FREE with my model pack. So I can release them this way.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 19:10
Well, they're technically not free, as you can only get them through buying your model pack. Even though you say that they're free, there's no other way to get ahold of them other than buying the pack...
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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 19:12
Yes, they are, but I don't have to give away my hard work, tweak, trial and error hours for nothing, so I've decided to give them free when buying my model pack, at least I'm getting rewarded for some of my work.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 19:18
alimpo83 when will this pack be ready? I will buy this pack for sure. btw...you are doing a AWESOME Job!! Keep up the good work.


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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 19:35 Edited at: 9th Feb 2008 19:40
Tanya it's almost done.

Thanks for the interest.

EDIT:

BTW, I learnt some stuff while looking at these shaders, and tried nvidia and ati's programs. Maybe I'll write the first shaders from scratch for X10, that supports them completely. The reason I don't release dozens of shaders is because X9 can't support them. Believe me, I've tried!

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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 23:02 Edited at: 9th Feb 2008 23:05
Quote: "the shaders will be a free offer with the WW2 pack, so they will not be available unless you buy it!"



Definition of FREE-

.adj., fre·er, fre·est.

-Not subject to a given condition
-Not subject to external restraint
-Costing nothing; gratuitous


.Adv.

1. In a free manner; without restraint.
2. Without charge.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 23:31
No one is obliged to buy my pack, so buy if you want, don't buy if you don't want it.

Simple.

And Astek join the definition "Free" + "with", you'll get the full sentence.

2 a—used as a function word to indicate a participant in an action, transaction, or arrangement;

4 a—used as a function word to indicate combination, accompaniment, presence, or addition;

Definitions found in http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/with

Lets stay on-topic please.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 00:07 Edited at: 10th Feb 2008 00:12
You can type that till you're fingers rot off but nothing is truly free with something when you got to pay something to get that something with the something you're buying. You might as well include the shader pack in with the price. People have defined "free with" and made it into-

2 a—used as a function word to indicate a participant in an action, transaction, or arrangement;

4 a—used as a function word to indicate combination, accompaniment, presence, or addition;

...so people except it as so. But it truly never is. People throw around and overuse the meaning of FREE and turn it into a completely different word.

http://www.freezoned.com/

www.freezone.com

www.GetFreeXbox.net

www.freexbox360.com

These sites all tell you that you get a free item- the XBOX 360.

Yet... when you click into it some more... you realize you must participate in some offers (in which you must spend money.)
And in that case... it's not free.
1. If you got it you had to spend money on offers.
2. If you don't participate in offers (give them your money) you don't get it.
3. If it was truly free... wouldn't all you have to do is post your address so they could mail you the 360? Not have to do all this bull crap with signing up for this offer and taking time out of your life to d the referral system as well?

-How could anyone ever say that the 360 you ultimately receive was free of any loss of cash?

*Now back on topic with the shader pack-

1. You say that the shader pack is FREE!!! "but you can't have it unless you spend some money on something else."

That's like me saying... here you can have my car for free... but you got to pay me $20,000.00 for the keys to it in order to receive it.

Can't you see the flaws in your statement? I feel I've argued my point and moved this situation in my favor. So if you don't plan on giving away the shaders for nothing, period, at all... then don't mention the word FREE in this thread.

Astek

I also know that I don't have to buy it and it's not that I resent you at all... I would just wish you would not mislead others.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 00:14
The thread was created by me to talk about my work, so I mention whatever I want, respecting forum rules.

Don't like it, don't come here. I've acomplished what couldn't be done before, without source editing. It's what most of the FPSC forum users have longed for in ages.

So, please stop this nonsense.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 00:20 Edited at: 10th Feb 2008 00:22
Quote: "That's like me saying... here you can have my car for free... but you got to pay me $20,000.00 for the keys to it in order to receive it."

Ha...i just like that quote .

I wont be telling you if you stole this or not...since i am a completely stranger with shaders...
So in my point of view the cartoon shaders look all the same.
But thats just me...a expierenced user could make this clear and tell if they are the same or not.

As for the shader-pack that is "free" ...i kind of join with the rest...
It isnt free cause you would have to pay the ww2 pack in order to receive it.
But i dont care...you can release it however you want it to be released.
Even if the shader-pack will be released without the models
i still would pay for it since it is a great addition to FPSC.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 00:38
I never told no one(look for the older post)I wrote these from scratch. So I based my work in other's work, but got them to work in FPSC. If you take the free shaders you can get in the internet and try them in FPSC, they won't work. That's the point. If you do have a shader that doesn't work in FPSC, it's pointless right? But If you can work your way through the program flaws and get shaders to work, then it's a good thing.
Besides, I could even charge 20 or 30 euros for them, without the models, and believe me, I would sell. Since the beginning of FPSC that the users wanted to be able to have cool shaders and no one got it, except with source editing.
I was modelling the WW2 for some time and decided it was a good thing to release them together. And that's what I'm doing.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 00:50
Just shut up about the free thing. If you want, you have to pay for it. Thats that, no sense arguing with him when its his pack.

Good job, I really like the aura one.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 00:55 Edited at: 10th Feb 2008 01:00
Who who....calm down man...
I didnt accused you right?
Didnt say that it was bad selling them combined.
Only said that it isnt free.

Selling them for 20 or 30 euros is another thing...you could try..
but i dont know if many people would buy it than.
And if you didnt started these from scratch than i am also thinking if that is a appropriate thing to do...since you basically
did the half of the work.

Again...you can do what you want with them!
I still think they look great...and releasing them for free is a bad idea.

Corky
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Sorry, I wasn't talking to you Cheese cake, I was talking to Astek

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 01:00
Its cool man...edited it again

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Pack release.

Enjoy!

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 02:01 Edited at: 10th Feb 2008 03:14
Quote: "Just shut up about the free thing."


Real mature. I see you stand together with the rest of the conformists.

I never said he should just hand them over to me because ole' Astek just loves free stuff and he never buys anything!

I'm just saying exactly what I said.

Know what you're arguing against next time.
And as for me... I stand firm on my beliefs and nothing else needs to be said.

Astek

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alimpo83 how much is this pack in us dollars?


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$17.3868



Btw, before I buy, I would like to see some screen shots of this stuff in action. Sounds cool, but until I see something all of these things working... then


Btw, if you want something you pay for it. You can't expect someone to make modifications or design something and give it to you for nothing. The world doesn't work that way. This isn't socialism, this is capitalism. If you can't afford something, then shutup or develop it yourself. It is pure and simple economics. If you invent something or take something and improve it, do YOU give it away for free? (If you say yes, I will never talk to you again... because you are either a liar an idiot or both and I don't have time in my life for those types)

BTW he who claims that he is only attacking based on principle. Everyone can see through your cheap ass. We just haven't figured out if your kidding when you try these stunts or if you really are that dense.
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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 03:10 Edited at: 10th Feb 2008 03:12
No one ever reads the whole thing, they just 'assume' things.

Well I never said I think it should be released for free, if
I did so... then point it out that I did with a screenshot of your computer screen and draw a big red circle around the parts I said I wanted it free, in MS Paint then email it to me and say I was wrong.

I agree with your statement... you want something... you pay for it.
You pay for almost everything from someone else! And no one slaps you in the face with a free game or something... they slap some sort of price on it... somehow... someway... threw having to buy something to get it perhaps? Or just charging for it period. I'm not cheap and in answer to your question... it depends on what that would be. If i worked hard on it... losing countless hours of sleep and time... then I would charge for it. Yes. And I know how the world works... and I know how screwed up it can be at times (and I'm not saying paying for stuff is screwed up, I'm talking about the world and life in general).

All I ever wanted to say was just how I don't think the shaders are free when money comes out of your credit card account in order to get the shader pack. That's all... nothing to do with how I think I shouldn't have to pay for the WW2 stuff or food when I'm hungry, the power bill if I want electricity... nothing more. I was just telling him he should just include it in the price if his only giving them away together.

Astek

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Thanks Jeremiah.
Quote: "$17.3868 "



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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 05:32
Astek has a point. But could have been solved easily if the WW2 pack has the shaders included.

Quote: "That's like me saying... here you can have my car for free... but you got to pay me $20,000.00 for the keys to it in order to receive it."


Lol.

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Quote: "Know what you're arguing against next time."


I know exactly what I'm arguing against. He didn't come here and post this to get replies that say the meaning of free, or to tell him that it is not really free. He came here to share his media with us, free or not. Also he can put "free" in it or not. Maybe in his mind it is "free".

Im not trying to go against you or anything but, im just saying why don't you just leave him alone?

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Updated some more screens, and the Ghost Shader is now 100% FPSC Compatible and Light affected.

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Quote: "Btw, if you want something you pay for it. You can't expect someone to make modifications or design something and give it to you for nothing. The world doesn't work that way. This isn't socialism, this is capitalism. If you can't afford something, then shutup or develop it yourself. It is pure and simple economics. If you invent something or take something and improve it, do YOU give it away for free? (If you say yes, I will never talk to you again... because you are either a liar an idiot or both and I don't have time in my life for those types)"

Wow man calm down i dont know what your problem is.
We never said anything about giving it away for free or did we?
So whats your problem?
As for the:
Quote: "If you say yes, I will never talk to you again... because you are either a liar an idiot or both and I don't have time in my life for those types"

You really see yourself as a sort of "higher" person dont you?

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 12:47 Edited at: 10th Feb 2008 12:49
Does the cartoon shader produce an outline round an entity? Because I may get this just for that. Been looking for years now...

EDIT: Ah, should've checked the screenies first. In that case, can you determine the outlines colour?

Feigning interest since 2005!
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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 12:51 Edited at: 10th Feb 2008 12:52
Pus in Boots,

that I can still not do, but I'm trying. You're not the first one to ask for it, believe me!

BTW I'm going to release a new video, showing both the model and shader pack in action. In a few minutes!

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Here's the Youtube video, I'll upload a hi res video later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMIrBYz-dzo

Hi Res Video(download about 7 megs)
http://rapidshare.de/files/38539397/Ww2ShaderPacks.wmv.html

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Quote: "You really see yourself as a sort of "higher" person dont you?"


I think he has a superiority complex,

@Alimpo83

Nice, but my comp hates shaders so I'm afraid I'll have to pass on this one....

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Here's a very cool model I updated to work with my shaders, to get you an idea what they can do. It's from the Creeps and Freaks pack by D13.



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Quote: "Here's a very cool model I updated to work with my shaders,"
u mean "with your updated version of someone else's shaders."

in the immortal words of cheeshead you are a forum ruiner guy!
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This pack is compatible with fpscx10 ?

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bobert,

If you have a problem with my work, fine, don't buy it. Don't flame, that leads to nothing.
If you can do a similar pack, please do so and release it. Go ahead, try it. Since the beginning of FPSC everyone tried to achieve this, and no one got it. From hundreds of users.
Now that I finally pulled it through, users like yourself, that don't have a life, make a living on trying to annoy others.

Styloo the Shader Pack doesn't work in X10, but the models do.

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Even through all this argumentation, I have to admit that the shaders do look very good alimpo83.
And I think it's great you've achieved this big goal, I just had
a problem with the statement you made.

Astek

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Quote: "If you have a problem with my work, fine, don't buy it. Don't flame, that leads to nothing.
If you can do a similar pack, please do so and release it. Go ahead, try it. Since the beginning of FPSC everyone tried to achieve this, and no one got it. From hundreds of users.
Now that I finally pulled it through, users like yourself, that don't have a life, make a living on trying to annoy others."
what?! i never said it wasnt cool that you made them work! i just think that if u release it, u should give credit to the original creators of the shaders. because if not, that would be rude. dont have a cow because i told the truth that these are modified shaders. and fyi, i got the cartoon one to work too, i will post a screenie soon.

in the immortal words of cheeshead you are a forum ruiner guy!
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I wasn't talking with you Astek, altough our views on the same subject are different.
And FPSC is just an hobby.

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Too bad it doesnt work with X10.
Well since the new mods: EFX & Lemur are being developed
and look almost the same as X10 i think i have to go with them
therefore being able to use this.

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okay heres my pic of a cartoon shader i found on the forums, it doesnt work great but it still works.

in the immortal words of cheeshead you are a forum ruiner guy!

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