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Aaagreen
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Or maybe, he's just a generous guy, showing us english that the germans aren't so bad after all. (not saying that they ever were bad, i like them, just not everyone else does)

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bobert
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 20:06
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or maybe your just sucking up to get this

in the immortal words of cheeshead you are a forum ruiner guy!
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 20:08
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Quote: "or maybe your just sucking up to get this"


Now that's the attitude and type of knee-jerk response that starts this type of trouble. Good one.

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rolfy
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 20:10 Edited at: 12th Feb 2008 20:25
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Quote: " to waste all that time and effort making a pack to ruin someone's sales, especially in the case of this cave pack which is so much better than Higgins. (sorry, but it is) He could have made much less and lesser quality to match. That would have been easier."

If he in fact made the stuff in the first place,I cant be sure he did after he produced his 'own' hands as evidence of his skills.

Quote: "Or maybe, just maybe, he saw another's work and thought it would be a good pack for him, and something he could do, or perhaps already had."

Butter fingers said the guy released his cutter pack after buying Buttercutter from him so he obviously did think he could 'do it himself' but did he have to release it for free.

This has nothing to so with Nationality.


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bobert
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 20:13
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Quote: "Now that's the attitude and type of knee-jerk response that starts this type of trouble."


well I just find it so annoying that half the people on this thread only take the eye candy and forget all the issues

in the immortal words of cheeshead you are a forum ruiner guy!
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xplosys
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 20:30
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@rolfy, Good points and I wish I could respond them. The truth is I don't know the truth, nor does anyone here really. There is a lot of speculation, some from what little facts we do know and a lot from mere speculation. What that stems from in some cases, I can only suspect.

Quote: "well I just find it so annoying that half the people on this thread only take the eye candy and forget all the issues
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I'm addressing the issues, I think.

The one thing I can assure you of is that I don't need the pack, nor do I need anything for free. I'm not a rich man, but a 10 or 20 dollar pack now and then doesn't affect my budget, I assure you.
As rolfy said earlier, enough has been said (by me) on this one so I leave it to you. You know my thoughts. I don't have to agree with or like his motives, whatever they may be, but I can't fault him for making a pack of items that has been made before.

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Cheese Cake
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 20:41
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Actually Bum Fat...i agree with bobert...
You do seem to ignore the stuff that have been posted over here...
And you are only waiting for a pack that like rolfy said: that isnt sure that Red Devil created it 100% himself.

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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 20:50 Edited at: 12th Feb 2008 20:52
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Things happen get over it. I could buy a box of matches from the store or I can get them free at my work(they give them away). What are you going to do. Its life plain and simple fact.

There are copiers out there, nothing you can do about it. I hate them to, but sorry I wish I could go and do something very painful to them but I can't.

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rolfy
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 21:06 Edited at: 12th Feb 2008 21:11
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O.k. definitely my last post here.
As it seems its o.k. for folk to rip your ideas and offer them up for free maybe it would be pointless to put the work and effort into creating any pack for sale,on that note I see no reason to continue with my own.
This of course does not apply to models,but if effort is put into doing innovative work,such as Butter cutter and its ripped off, I dont think I have the stomach for it.
Why should someone do all the scripting and media if its just trashed by some wannabe who takes it all and makes it their own.

I have no idea if RD is doing all this deliberately but I'm not waiting to find out.


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Cheese Cake
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 21:11
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Quote: "As it seems its o.k. for folk to rip your ideas and offer them up for free maybe it would be pointless to put the work and effort into creating any pack for sale,on that note I see no reason to continue with my own."

Kind of agree with you there.
Its a shame that most people immediatelly will forget the reason of all this trouble.
And are only waiting for the pack.

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Leaning Objects To The Side
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 22:01 Edited at: 12th Feb 2008 22:27
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IanM, Thanks for making that statement.
Quote: "If you can't deal with a little competition then get out of the competition. If Red Devil can't afford your 'official' packs then he has every right to make his own, and every right to give them away if he wishes.
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you hit it right on the nail. I am with you on that all the way. I hope that you have a Great day. btw..you are doing a Great Job being a Moderator! Keep up the good work.


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Cheese Cake
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 22:08
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Quote: "IanM, Thanks for making that statement. you hit it right on the nail. I am with you on that all the way. I hope that you have a Great day. btw..you are doing a Great Job! Keep up the good work."

Huh?!? sorry am i missing something over here
Or is it just that the post didnt showed up over here.

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And now everyone thinks i need free things. God, why are the people on this forum so damn-right horrible to everyone else?

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Cheese Cake
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 22:17
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Quote: "And now everyone thinks i need free things. God, why are the people on this forum so damn-right horrible to everyone else?"

Quite funny man...you are more "horrible" to the modelers over here than we are to you.
Cause its not funny to know that when we model stuff and put some hard work into it...that people wouldnt mind if someone copied their ideas and uploaded them so that the other wouldnt have any sales.

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Aaagreen
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 22:24
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trust me cheese cake, i may not be the nicest of people, i may be an annoying young fart, but when it comes down to it, everyone in this damn forum has been horrible at one point...

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ZockerX
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 22:48
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I wanted to apologize again for everything...

I am now also nice...xD


Here my argument to your pack, this is realy nice and I am glad...it is FREEE


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Cheese Cake
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 22:51 Edited at: 12th Feb 2008 22:52
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Quote: "I wanted to apologize again for everything...

I am now also nice...xD


Here my argument to your pack, this is realy nice and I am glad...it is FREEE"

Its getting better and better.
Why the apologize? Cause i guess you might want to apologize to most of the modelers over here
if you have read the page before this one.

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ZockerX
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 23:10
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Quote: "Cause i guess you might want to apologize to most of the modelers over here"



Okay, I give you quite...

Realy good packs can cost also money...



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Cheese Cake
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 23:18
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Quote: "Okay, I give you quite...

Realy good packs can cost also money..."

Thanks man uhhmmm....?!?
But i hope you are kidding right? I mean that comment...are you?

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bobert
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 23:38
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hey rolfy join IGD! you to cheese cake!

in the immortal words of cheeshead you are a forum ruiner guy!
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Opposing force
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I think this thread should be locked...

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bobert
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Posted: 12th Feb 2008 23:41
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or deleted.... I mean the first 10 posts really topped that off

in the immortal words of cheeshead you are a forum ruiner guy!
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Captain Kirk
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Posted: 13th Feb 2008 09:43 Edited at: 13th Feb 2008 10:00
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I still say that this model pack is great. This topic shouldn! be locked. This topic needs a little cleaning. Only the spam posts and swear posts should be deleted.
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bobert
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Posted: 13th Feb 2008 18:01
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no it should be locked like I said people like you only see eyecandy and ignore previous posts

in the immortal words of cheeshead you are a forum ruiner guy!
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Cheese Cake
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Posted: 13th Feb 2008 18:06
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Quote: "I still say that this model pack is great. This topic shouldn! be locked. This topic needs a little cleaning. Only the spam posts and swear posts should be deleted. "


Quote: "no it should be locked like I said people like you only see eyecandy and ignore previous posts"


Hahaha! you go bobert!

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Captain Kirk
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Okay. You all hate RD because he made a fantastic stuff for free. Not for money like the most of the users here. I hate to pay every little stuff. Thats why I like RD's work.

Freewares forever!!
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rolfy
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Quote: "Okay. You all hate RD because he made a fantastic stuff for free. Not for money like the most of the users here. I hate to pay every little stuff. Thats why I like RD's work."

It's that kind of facetious comment that has some of those modelers (who have all provided free stuff for the likes of you) to jump ship.So enjoy your new pack it will probably be your last.


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@Kirk

Ok, so if you were to spend months creating a pack, and decided "Hey, this took me X months to make, and it's the best quality I've ever done." Would you be happy if your months of work were undermined by this guy? How would you feel?

I understand that language like Higgins used shouldn't be tolerated here, but were it me, I would've done the same....


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Yeah. I like only free stuff.

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Posted: 13th Feb 2008 19:07 Edited at: 13th Feb 2008 19:29
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Quote: "You all hate RD because he made a fantastic stuff for free"


You mean he ripped other peoples media to make a free pack. I doubt he even made any of the media he claims to have done, and he better pack in using crap translators and acting arrogant.

Everyone who is here for eye candy and blind to the facts, I hope
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Red Devil
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OK. People! I
t has enough your claims slowly.
All model from this pack come from my feather.
The single one something I did I have take this the form and the texture of the arms from the MP5.
I don't realize this correctly this it is!
I had taken you because she/it pastes property to this pack.
About all speculations whether or whether it is my models can your you of my quality in the German forum convinces.

HP: I wisely not yet when the Cave pack appears!
But one wisely I.
This the Cave pack here appears for FREE

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At this one can see, it gives also quality for no money...

It is now times like that, RD FTW


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@Zocker

So you don't mind that he stole media from Model Packs, Undermined a long staying forum members sales and deployed a Virus on someones MSN account?

You guys make me sick! You, Bum Fat Cheese and whoever else are just there for the free stuff.....

I'm sorry, but this is the last straw, IGD.net for me too!


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I read this topic and, what should I say? I think I will move onto IDG for a time, it seems that no one is staying at this place and I am not going to be the last one

See you on the other side

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I will BVG...


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Quote: "All model from this pack come from my feather. "


This made me laugh.

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Quote: "So then he has something against Higgins and Butters, and wants to ruin their sales. That seems like a pitiful thing to do, to waste all that time and effort making a pack to ruin someone's sales, especially in the case of this cave pack which is so much better than Higgins. (sorry, but it is) He could have made much less and lesser quality to match. That would have been easier.
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Alright so his intentions are to undermine higgins and butters sales, how would you do that, make a pack with horribly low quality, quality as the same as the pack your copying, or make the quality better, to make sure all sales get ruined....its kinda obvious dude

You'll Know When You See It.

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Urlforce Studios
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He can post the pack. But no one will be left on here to get it, and the ones that do will reply in a language he won't understand, so what's the point? You boys keep your pack coming- but the damage is done here. Thanks. I'm going to laugh when people here get marginalized against for using your pack- because IT WILL happen. Loyalty should undermine the undermine-er.

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Quote: "But no one will be left on here to get it"


aye.

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It seems like I missed the fireworks.

Me, being somewhat similar in attitude to Bobert when it comes to pirating, absolutely hates it when one steals another's work. I think this thread deserves to locked, much like others have said. But, I will be among the others who'll stay, but I will not buy RD's pack. As Sam Fisher said in Splinter Cell: "I'm tired and I hate making people scream. It gets me down."

I am against pirating; I am a law abider, and will continue to be. Earth is too small a place of the perpetrators of these acts to hide. Just let this thread and RD die.

I'm done here.
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!

You guys are fighting over a model pack! I was told to read the whole thing, but this is senseless!

Why tear a whole forum apart over a model pack?! I remember when we all used to develop and share our creations, not wreck havoc over 3D models!

You all should be ashamed of yourselves! I'm supprised the Mods havn't banned you all who acted like jerks!

You all need to grow up!

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What? I take it you didn't read the part where he admitted to passing off MP5 hands as his own......

Or giving D13 and his mates a virus via MSN...


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Quote: "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!

You guys are fighting over a model pack! I was told to read the whole thing, but this is senseless!

Why tear a whole forum apart over a model pack?! I remember when we all used to develop and share our creations, not wreck havoc over 3D models!

You all should be ashamed of yourselves! I'm supprised the Mods havn't banned you all who acted like jerks!

You all need to grow up!
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or is it you who needs to grow up?

I am so freaking annoyed by how many people on this thread only see the freaking eye candy! first off hes ripping media *twitch*
seccond of all hes cutting out peoples sales and replacing them with free media! how would you feel if you spent a month working on a pack only to find that this dude makes a free pavk that looks a whol lot better than it! again, why dont you grow up?

in the immortal words of cheeshead you are a forum ruiner guy!
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Quote: "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!

You guys are fighting over a model pack! I was told to read the whole thing, but this is senseless!

Why tear a whole forum apart over a model pack?! I remember when we all used to develop and share our creations, not wreck havoc over 3D models!

You all should be ashamed of yourselves! I'm supprised the Mods havn't banned you all who acted like jerks!

You all need to grow up!"

Was that directed towards me, or others including me?

I'm with bobert on this one.

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Wow, the more stupid things that are posted here (crispex), the more I want to leave here and never come back.

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Quote: "He is giving me the impression he is deliberately trying to trash attempts at selling their work"

I got this impression too, particularly after he said "I am a Warrior for FreeWare".

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what a load of whinging on these boards, people are free to make what they want, I made some skyboxes for fpsc, I charged for them, if people think they can make them and give them for free, do so, nothing wrong with competition. Whats the problem. Buy the one for sale and get the free one, the more the better as far as Im concerned.

Also hasnt the other guy not released his cave pack, this guy has, he is the first then, perhaps he is the original one then?

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My god, this is a mess. What can I say? I'm on Higgin's side at least. He comes up with a fairly original and cool idea for a model pack, works hard to get it done, and when sales start, some freeware-knight on his steed comes from the blue in a Robin Hood-fashion and steals the recipe, leaving a few things out maybe. Tell me, does he come off as wanting to please the less rich people of the community, or does he come off as trying his best to put us down who want to make a few bucks for hours of hard work?

For me the answer is clear at least. And don't troll me for joining forces with the money-maker-modellers, I'm a freeware kind of guy too, but I know that making a model pack takes some work, work that you want at least some reward for it in the end. I'm sure Higgins has very valid reasons for wanting to cash in a few extra bucks, I believe very few people on these boards would sell stuff merely to put a fresh wad of bills up their greedy noses. In fact, I don't think any serious forumer would do that.
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Quote: "what a load of whinging on these boards, people are free to make what they want, I made some skyboxes for fpsc, I charged for them, if people think they can make them and give them for free, do so, nothing wrong with competition. Whats the problem. Buy the one for sale and get the free one, the more the better as far as Im concerned.

Also hasnt the other guy not released his cave pack, this guy has, he is the first then, perhaps he is the original one then?"


Dude its the princible of it all, if he had not used mp5 hands and not allegedly sent d13 a virus than this thing would have stopped at higgins being banned but because of these things people are finding it hard to believe that this wasn't some sort of malicious attempt to undermine packs.... It is not even healthy competition as they are send email viruses and undermining sales....i hope what urlforce said was right and that loyalty does undermine the undermine'er and that people get singled out for using this pack as i would hope that this community would remember the help and support all the members that have left gave to it.

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I for one like this pack. There is no law, or even rule in the AUP about coping ideas and thats because it's silly. How many of the MP's have an M4? 2, maybe 3? So do Errant, Jon and Simon fight about it? No they don't. You guys also forget that not everyone is old enough to have their own credit card and is only allowed to get official packs. This pack looks much different to me. And I like Red Devils work personally, the cutter thing was way cool, good but not as good as Butter-Cutter still. Flame me all you want, I'm not going to even bother reading it.
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P.S. The virus and ripped models are new to me... Also you guys should calm down about his language skills, lets see you speak German better than his English. Maybe I won't use Cutter V2 anymore..

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