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I just want to make sure that in darkbasic your able to create your own backrounds and characters. thanks in advance!

of course! but you can't make u'm in db. it's possible, but very hard.

You make them in seperate programs such as 3D modellers, art programs, etc.
See http://www.darkbasicpro.com/apollo/view.php?t=13351&b=7 for some reccomendations, and rules.

Also, I would reccomend DBPro (DarkBASIC Professional) instead of DBC (DB Classic). Professional is just as easy to learn, but has many more commands, much faster, more options, etc. It's a little more (100$), but worth every penny. You should download the demos before you buy.

then what should i get if i cant make them in db. should i get db and The Cartography Shop?

I posted a link in my last post to some reccomendations. I reccomend Wings 3D (free), Adobe art progs (Illust., Photoshop) (lots 'o money). You can get free art programs on the net too. I can't really tell you what you would be comfortable using though. You'll have to try the demos and stuff yourself. See the link I posted for some sites to download demos.

if you have paintshoppro and milkshape3d, both available as free demo versions you can do most stuff. A few other things like lithunwrap help too. If you do a google search you should be able to find them

i'd recommand you just start with db only...

you can make any type of game you want, and make it like you imagine it (except some grapical effects)

there are just a few technical limitations:
- a db executable is always minimum about 1,7Mb, even when you program is only a couple of lines long and you don't use any media
- there's always the limitation of the speed of certain commands... and because db doesn't compile it's executables, but interpretes the code on the fly, db commands (and commands of other interpreted languages) will always be slower than commands of languages which compile their code to machine language
- there are also some other limitations which are no problem for most games and applications: you can only open 32 files at the same time (but you can avoid that problem by closing files not in use at that moment), you can "only" have about 65 thousand 3d objects in a scene (you can also avoid that limitation by combining multiple objects in one object number using limbs)
- there are also limitations for the length of a string, the value of an integer (the maximum is somewhere at about 2 billion - which I already reached in a program to calculate prime numbers), ... (anyone who knows how to avoid this last thing?)

if you are just starting with programming and you want to learn how to make games or 3d applications (or also other stuff), darkbasic is great! if you should start with C++ trying to make a 3d game without any programming experience, you'll need a lot of courage to succeed

DB is the way to go for beginners. There is a GIANT thread at the top of the Newcomers Forum with a whole bunch of links for free resources and sites that could be helpful, and lots of programming tools as well.

For 3D - I suggest MILKSHAPE (30 Day Free Trial - www.milkshape3d.com)
For 2D - You can use anything from MSPaint to Adobe Photoshop. For a reasonable price, there is Jasc Paint Shop Pro.

Cheers - Good Luck

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