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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Fpsc X10 or Fpsc?

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Travis Gatlin
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i didnt know where to put this so i posted it here.
which one should i buy FPSC X10 or just regular old FPSC?

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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 00:10 Edited at: 13th Jul 2009 00:11
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If you don't have Vista, then buy regular FPSC, if you have Vista (along with good hardware), then buy X10. Also if you like bloom to the max, then buy X10.
Done.

ps. This would fit in at the FPSC boards.

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Depends on your specs....

Right now, X9 has much more support, especially with the mods and such, so I'd recommend that...

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Travis Gatlin
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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 02:32 Edited at: 13th Jul 2009 02:34
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yes but X9 cost 50 bucks! and X10 costs 35
(also i have vista)

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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 03:51
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No X10 costs $70.... you're looking at the price in pounds...

If you download FPSC Free, the build game upgrade only costs $20...

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What's the difference between the Build Game Upgrade and the full original FPSC?

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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 04:03 Edited at: 13th Jul 2009 04:03
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The $50 full version comes on a cd and has more stock media. So if you want to create your own media, I think upgrading FPSC Free is the better option.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 06:29
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Quote: "i didnt know where to put this so i posted it here."


Apparently you've missed the entire section of boards dedicated to FPSC.



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Quote: "Apparently you've missed the entire section of boards dedicated to FPSC."


TASKBAR at the TOP!
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Quote: "TASKBAR at the TOP!"

And what? You gonna lead this thread off topic with a long stupid rant about Macs?

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Robert F
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Quote: "And what? You gonna lead this thread off topic with a long stupid rant about Macs?"


No, I have just never seen it before...
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Macs suck anyways. It's either that or Microsoft has a stranglehold on the technology market.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 07:25 Edited at: 13th Jul 2009 07:26
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In my opinion do neither they're limited when it comes to gameplay and I don't like it when game engines are limited. Same rule applies to 3d gamemaker. Plus if you really want to be scared the crap out of then wait till it's night turning up the volume on your computer while trying out the new DarkVoices...

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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 07:52
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Quote: "Apparently you've missed the entire section of boards dedicated to FPSC."

yes i knew that! but this is about both X9 and X10!

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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 08:18
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Quote: "Macs suck anyways."


Funny joke.

And dude, FPSC Chat applies to both FPS Creators I believe.

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So straight after it was decided that this WOULDN'T become a mac vs pc debate, BrickBreak and TheZachadoodle both come in and start one. Nice work kiddies.

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Why not settle on the lesser of...3 evils? Go with Linux.

Anyway.

I would recommend regular FPS Creator simply due to the fact that:

1. It has more support and people who use / understand it.

2. It has more mods.

3. It's more bug-free as it's been worked on continuously, while X10 is still the way it was when it came out.

4. X10 is only aimed for Vista. Will not run on XP (which most still use).

5. X10 requires a high end gaming PC. Most standard people have standard PC's.

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Yeah Crispex is about right. Most people don't have a high end computer(me). What I like more about Fps Creator now is that its open source so I can add or delete as many features as a I want which is cool.
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I don't have a high end gaming PC either. I have a standard multi-purpose desktop PC with 1.25 gig of RAM, Pentium IV 2.9 GhZ processor, and an Nvidia GeForce 6200 OC (Overclocked) with 256mb of VRAM and Shader Model 3.0.

Pretty basic, it gets the job done, I can play my favorite games, and use normal FPS Creator, so I'm not bothered.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 17:58
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even if you do have vista, buy X9, it has so much more media

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Will the original FPSC (not x10) work in Vista?

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Robert F
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Quote: "even if you do have vista, buy X9, it has so much more media"


It does. Im pretty sure X10 has MORE stock media... If your talking about the media the community has then... it can still be converted to work with X10 but thats a lot of work.
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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 19:52 Edited at: 13th Jul 2009 19:52
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so i guess X9 is more suited for what i need (plus X10 cost 75 bucks lol) or maybe i will just buy the upgrade pack for 20 bucks or 2000 points

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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 20:30 Edited at: 13th Jul 2009 20:30
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Quote: "Macs suck anyways. It's either that or Microsoft has a stranglehold on the technology market. "


This is a thread about X9 or X10, not about operating systems (and yes, I realise you were 'just saying' but please, no more).



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Posted: 13th Jul 2009 22:20
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Quote: "while X10 is still the way it was when it came out."


No where near true. If you had x10, you would know the difference between straight out of the box, and v1.09. Plus, TGC is working on v1.10 right now, and have stated that they plan to get x10 to a decent level before they even start work on the Migration. X10 is also supposed to get several exclusive features from the migration, so I've heard. So, X10 has a more support for the future. X9, has all the mods, which are great for performance and scripting (ironsights too) providing a much different experience.

Also, cripex, X10 has plenty of people who understand nearly every quirk of X10 if you'll simply click the bar in my signature.

Either choice you make, they're both quality products of which you'll have many hours of fun creating with.

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Well as I've said before if you have the spec then you should get FPSC X10. It doesn't have mods but its the more powerful engine and will get all of the features available in v115 in the migration whereas X9 will only get some of the X10 features.

To be honest if X9 gets Dark AI, water, bloom and normal / specular mapping for segments out of the migration I'll probably put my copy of X10 out to pasture but I don't think the X9 engine will be able to handle full scene normal and specular mapping like X10.

X9 is a great engine and shader model 3 is way more accessible to work with using Dark Shader then X10 and shader model 4 which throws you in the deep end with no support.

I'm disappointed shader model 3 cant be used in the X10 engine as I was just starting to get my head around it then I open up an X10 shader and had a good laugh to myself.
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i wish X9 had water...

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Wizmod has water. It cannot be used to build game though. That's something else to keep in mind, to build a game with a mod it'll cost more money for most mods.

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Just Wondering IF x9 nine Is Called x9 Cause it runs on direct x 9 (no0b question)

So that would mean x10 Is dx10 so it should work on windows 7
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@JiMmY: Yes, x9 is called x9 because it uses Direct x 9. Same for x 10 with x 10.

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X9 has water. use benge sprite pack water and put a no gravity zone.
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what is benge sprite pack and a no gravity zone?

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Benge's sprite pack:

http://www.fpscreator.com/spritepack1.html

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aww man,is there anything else that doesnt cot 20 bucks?

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Oh 20 bucks big deal im sorry but if your not willing to spend a bit off money you wont get very far, i just spent over £150 on a web store system for a new site im making you cant expect to get quality stuff free.

The sprite pack linked too is a great product and totally worth 20


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i know but i dont got $20 dollars!! i spent all of my money on darkBASIC!

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If you know DB (is it Pro or not?) then why did you ask about FPSC x9 or x10? I can understand using x9 since you can use the levels in DBPro, but you can't with x10.

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i bought DBC,and why i asked about X9 or X10 is because it is much easier to make FPS games with FPSC!

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Alright, I figured Dark Basic Pro, that's why I asked.

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i cant afford DBP it's about $70.00 right?

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Quote: "i cant afford DBP it's about $70.00 right?"


For $89.99 you can get

DarkBASIC Professional
DarkBASIC Classic
DarkGDK
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DarkMATTER
DarkVOICES
DarkSHADER
Game Creator Store
FPS Creator FREE
Tree Magik
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You mind as well take out half of them though. Most of the stuff is free anyway.

-Fps Creator Free
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I've purchased that bundle, and it's a great deal. All that separate would be ~$200.

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wow really? sounds cool! i might try that when i get the money,but the xbox 360 cost 100 bucks now and maybe i should get the xbox,or an iphone

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Quote: "wow really? sounds cool! i might try that when i get the money,but the xbox 360 cost 100 bucks now and maybe i should get the xbox,or an iphone"


The Xbox 360 is pretty much just for playing games. You CAN do other stuff with it like watch movies but its really not meant for that. If you are looking for an all around device then I would choose the iphone. If you are looking for gaming then I would choose an Xbox 360. One thing I can say though is that you will probably want a newer iphone when it comes out. So you will have to keep spending money. :p

On the other hand though you have to keep buying games for the Xbox 360. Its up to you. Its your money... and your choice.
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well ok then back on topic....

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I HAVE MADE MY DECISION!
I Will Choose (drum roll).....
THE 20 DOLLAR FPSC FREE UPGRADE!!!

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The Fps Creator rocks!
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X10 can have water and the water is better because you can swim in it. Oh and it has MUCH better performance. If you have the requirements. In X9, you need at least 4 Gb ram because it sucks and goes SSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slow. And you need a 9500 GT 512 for kind of smooth performance.

I want a new computer!
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o...ok

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@Fps creator rocks: I run a large level at 38 fps with lots of scripts running with only 512 MB of RAM.

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actually i do too, i have got FPSC free and i have built alot of games with alot of scripts running and alot of entitys running too and the game run fine. maybe it is just that you have alot of entities in one place that often slows it down...

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