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Dreamsenshi
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Posted: 25th Oct 2009 18:48
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Interesting! Curious to see more about your reaper. Seems like a good start to me, but I don't have the experience other folks have in making models yet. :}



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Posted: 25th Oct 2009 19:50 Edited at: 25th Oct 2009 19:50
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thanks, okay, just finished the base model and I'm quite pleased with it, I'll move onto initial texturing but'll probably only finished it tommorow.

well tell me what you think



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Posted: 25th Oct 2009 20:42 Edited at: 25th Oct 2009 20:42
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The new model looks pretty great!

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Posted: 25th Oct 2009 20:42 Edited at: 25th Oct 2009 20:42
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okay been working on the texture, it'll definately take till tommorrow as I'm taking a majority of the elements of the texture from tribal face paint.

please tell me what you think



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Posted: 25th Oct 2009 20:45 Edited at: 25th Oct 2009 20:45
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Since we simultaneously posted, I'll post again to comment on your texture.

Pretty cool. I like it. But it needs something... I can't put my finger on it but good job, nonetheless.


[edit] Oh jeez, I just read your location as "raped in a box...".
Might wanna add another 'p'.

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a little pixely but I like it!

btw, are you still making a tutorial?

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Posted: 25th Oct 2009 22:05 Edited at: 25th Oct 2009 22:05
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mike5454@

yes but i think I'll need a weekend to do it so I'll do it next week, youtube is being really iritataing, whenever i go to upload some of the tutorial stuff it deletes it, so I've decided that I'll post it here in a .zip file.

anyway here is some more progress on the model, but it'll only change tommorrow as i am off to have a laugh watching x factor

hope you like it



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Posted: 26th Oct 2009 13:30 Edited at: 26th Oct 2009 13:30
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quick update, refined the texture and i now have it done, onto posing for a scene but heres a render



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Posted: 26th Oct 2009 14:21 Edited at: 26th Oct 2009 14:23
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and now a triple post.

heres the finished result i wasn't sure what sort of eviroment it would dwell in, well now that i say dwell i realise a cave would have worked, oh well.

heres the 'reaper' I quite like it but after all what you say counts so please leave a comment on the model.
i also made the barbed wire so if you like that then say as well



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Posted: 26th Oct 2009 19:55 Edited at: 26th Oct 2009 19:56
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whoa 4 in a row

well started on another model, its based off of a drawing i did a while back and i hope you like it, it'll be finished later this week



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Posted: 26th Oct 2009 21:46 Edited at: 26th Oct 2009 21:46
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okay 5 posts in a row is rediculous so I'll stop at this, just hope that someone will post tommorrow so that it doesn't become 6

anyway here is what i wanted to post, i finally figured out how to make a scene purely inside z brush. so here it is hope you like it.



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Wow! I really like your models. They have the right amount of definition that I like, personally. They're good-looking, but not so overly detailed that you can't imagine yourself with them (read Scott McCloud's books if you don't know what I'm talking about; he is the AWESOME). Anyway, if I could make models like those myself, I'd be uber-happy. We'll see what I actually manage, though.

Keep it going! I really like them all so far.



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I like the full scene. You seem to be mostly painting the models, and not texturing them. Maybe try painting textures onto them.

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Posted: 27th Oct 2009 20:56 Edited at: 27th Oct 2009 20:57
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thanks for the comments

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thanks and i have been experimenting with the textures, I'm gonna start making my own for these and i agree with you, thanks.

anyway heres a new one of the first model I'd done, I'm basically doing the ones that i wasn't happy with, scene-wise but I'm now happy and I'll be moving onto a new model, tried multiple things with the other, i may keep it but I'm goona leave it for now, anyway this is meant to be a desert, i at least hope thats obvious , anyway tell me what you think



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Posted: 27th Oct 2009 21:07
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I like the veins on his arms! Nice touch! After looking at him a few times, though, I wish his colors were a little more dynamic. I'm not sure how so, though . . . Just something to make him a little more alive, methinks. Maybe it's just that he's missing eyes.



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Posted: 28th Oct 2009 02:18 Edited at: 28th Oct 2009 02:19
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The secret of lighting is the specular effect. Light does not cover your body evenly, it touches the extremities making them shine. Like the bridge of your nose, and the tips of your arms. Your image is too even.

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Posted: 28th Oct 2009 21:22 Edited at: 28th Oct 2009 21:23
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thanks for the comments guys

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do you know how to create a specular lighting efect in z brush as i have no idea

anyway heres a new model i started work on 2 hours ago, I've gotten most of the model done just some refinements left anyway hope you like it, its meant to be a sort of goblin

also the back render and front renders were done seperately, thats why they're slightly different tones, the one on the right will be the final tone of the armour



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Posted: 28th Oct 2009 21:26
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Is the poor guy gettin' pants? :}

Otherwise, seems like you're off to an interesting start. His flat nose makes me feel like my nose itches.



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Posted: 31st Oct 2009 20:45 Edited at: 31st Oct 2009 20:46
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well slow progress but i think I'll have this guys finished tommorrow

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yeh don't worry the guy above whoes a leader type will have a loin (i know thats not how you spell it-#) cloth

heres some prgress finished the goblins texture and took your advice and used some of the textures available and I've started working with subtools a bit more, the armour and now the eyes

tell me what you think as i like him but yet again thats for you to decide



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I like him! I think it would be interesting if you could see his teeth, too, since his mouth looks like it is slightly parted. Could make him a little more fierce-looking. . . . His nose still totally makes mine itch. :}



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Posted: 1st Nov 2009 13:08 Edited at: 1st Nov 2009 13:10
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well heres the final result hope you like him, i think hes my best so far, do you?

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i tried mutiple sets of teeth and they all made him look beyond stupid so i stopped trying teeth and focused on the armour, also you'll be pleased to see that he now has is loin cloth

well heres the render, still don't know how to export the renders but i will find out



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Posted: 1st Nov 2009 16:47
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Wow! That armor rocks!



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Posted: 7th Nov 2009 19:49 Edited at: 7th Nov 2009 19:50
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hey i know its been a long time since i posted but heres a quick update as i've been working on some stuff for the scene competition

this is the character that i'll be using in the scene, tell me what you think



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Oo, cool! It makes me think a little of a bumble bee and pollen at the same time. I really like it!



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Posted: 8th Nov 2009 18:20 Edited at: 8th Nov 2009 18:20
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well heres what i'll be entering into the scene comp, tell me what you think



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I think it's awesome! Maybe a little bit dark, but it feels right atmospherically-speaking. The only thing I would do (and this may be because of some bizarre need I have to make things cuter than what is necessary) is add some little creature to be scared of him or something that would otherwise enhance his character through 3rd view perception of something wimpy. :}



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Posted: 11th Nov 2009 17:24 Edited at: 11th Nov 2009 17:25
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hey heres some progress on a new model, you may notice the texture is included, i finally decided to export and UV map one of these guys so please again tell me what you thin of both the model and the texture which by the way are both still WIP's



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Mind showing me how you make the base meshes?

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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 20:31 Edited at: 13th Nov 2009 20:32
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well i did some further work on my latest model and heres the progress



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i basically use zsketch to build it up the HP base in zbrush and i then keep the resolution for the generation of the unified mesh around 128 or 180, with the model above the origional one was around 4000 polies.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2009 14:04 Edited at: 14th Nov 2009 14:05
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hello again, i've decided that i won't be doing many scenes anymore as they take up time i could be using to make more models, but before i leave this guy i wanted to show you not only the model and base texture but both the normal map and displacement map and what it looks like when combined, so here it is, tell me what you think



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Posted: 14th Nov 2009 14:10
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and looking at this, its lost some of the detail so attached is a much larger image so open if you want

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eew. The first image at first made me think a little of Half-Life creatures, but as you added color and texture and the design grows, it looks more and more original. Looks like the type of creature who would be really tough if it caught up with you, but would have a lot of trouble running to catch you. :}



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Wow, Looking goooooood!

Are you still doing the tutorial? (sorry but i still can't do a think XD)

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Posted: 14th Nov 2009 20:14 Edited at: 14th Nov 2009 20:17
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mike5454@
unfortunately my exams crept up on me and i wasn't able to finish it, but don't worry i only have two left and then the tutorial will be up, unless anyone has an issue with it i'd like to use the z brush default .mov, qaulity wise i find it better, but if you have an issue with that then let me know

anyway thanks for the comments and dreamsenshi, thanks i like the monsters from half life and i guess i must of had one of 'em on the back of my mind. anyway i just finished a quick model which i made to test a custom material i made, its essentially the pearl material but it has been made to look a bit more brassy/rusty. however unfortunately i'll have to redo the sculpt, but luckily not the texture or the rest as after i took this i closed and sucome to a computer artists nightmare, forgetting to hit save. oh wel won't be to hard but anyway here it is, i didn't mention that i named the one above a 'groam' and this one a 'gripe' (don't know why)

anyway tell me what you think



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Posted: 14th Nov 2009 20:15
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also yet again here is the larger image of the one above

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Posted: 16th Nov 2009 17:24 Edited at: 16th Nov 2009 17:25
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hello, i've started to do some work on a human character, thats right, something that could be real! well i decided to follow azunaki's advice and make an anatomical model.
so i've called him 'future cop' and right now all i have is the head but don't worry he will have a whole body.
anyway tell me what you think as usual



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i dont like the bump on his neck, otherwise uit looks cool


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Posted: 16th Nov 2009 18:45 Edited at: 16th Nov 2009 18:45
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thanks for the comment, i might correst it, i'll see how it looks when i've finished the base.
anyway i wanted to show some of the progress since the previous post so here it is.



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Green troll thing, needs something on the forearms, spikes, blades, guns, or the forearms make no point, they have no function.
Latest work - needs some shoulder pads, or shoulder detail to break up the flatness of the tunic

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Quote: "or the forearms make no point, they have no function."


other than what arms usually do

But Fallen One is right, they aren't very interesting, some plating would look nice.

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Fallen one, I really wish you would remove your sig, its sickening to me.

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okay well i just wanted to say that the ogre, 'groam', model won't have any further progress done to it as i am pleased with how it turned out.
however i am pleased to say that i have made some progress on the 'future cop' model, remember guys it is still a WIP and i was origionally planning to put shoulder pads on him anyway, but here it is and please tell me what you think



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the clothing around the belt looks REALLY weird... playdoh?


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well i've taken a break out of the guy above, there really was never much interest but i think i will finish him, later.

anyway in the mean time i went back and improved the groam texture for what i think is better, but again i want your opinions so please tell me



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shame, as the guy looked really nice^^ improved texture looks really good!


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both look rather good although the guy up above i have a few things to say about.

what exactly is the line on the side of the helmet for?
his neck has what appear to be odd lines on the side of the neck along with the adam's apple being to big. your clothing or armor seems very loose, in all the wrong places. you seem to have a bump in the middle of his back just below the shoulder blades. the belt should be tighter to the body but it looks like it is being effected by the cloth below it. you have the belt way to high as it looks like the belt is crossing his stomach mostly this is because you have no legs and no sign of legs even present and past the belt is the same amount out as above the belt.

thats all i can see at the moment.

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Posted: 21st Nov 2009 11:08 Edited at: 21st Nov 2009 11:08
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thanks for the comments

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everything you said i agree with, and when i come back to finish him i'll fix all those things.

anyway i'm posting to tell your that i have started on a new character, i spent about an hour on him last night, most of which was the face! i've called him 'horseman' and he is meant to be quite stylised, i kinda want to achieve a darksiders looks, now all i have to do is make his armour, texture him and find him an interesting pose...



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well heres some minor progress on the guy above since the last post i added a hood



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Posted: 21st Nov 2009 19:23 Edited at: 21st Nov 2009 19:24
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well i did some further work just now and have finished the base mesh, now i just have to UV map and texture it



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Everything looks super cool Mazz426! The texture looks really nice, and the models are superb. The only thing I notice, (which may just be a nitpick) is some of the models look like they might fall over from not being balanced. Like their center of gravity is off or something. Anyway, great job!!

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