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Powersoft
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Posted: 1st Sep 2003 18:12
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i was thinking that if we cant actually make a games console could we make playstation/ps2/xbox games if we saved the games in the same format as porper ones?

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 1st Sep 2003 18:15
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Not using DarkBASIC, no.

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Powersoft
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Posted: 1st Sep 2003 18:18
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are you abosolutley 1,000,000% sure?


ps.fast response

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David T
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Very, very, very, very 1,000,000,000,000,000% sure.

To o that you'd need to code in C / C++ and get a proper compiler to compile to the relevant formet.

Theres no place like 127.0.0.1
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Powersoft
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oh back to the drawing board to think of some new mad invention...
how about....no
or a.....no
oh well

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Hell Forged Angel
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also for xbox you would either need to hack your xbox or get microsoft to sign your code (guess which the easier would be )

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Falelorn
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http://www.xbox.com/en-US/dev/incubator.htm

if your serious about xbox thats one way to make a game for a console.

Now if your really slick, you can make a DBPro console.

you can have auto load CDs to run the program, win 98/xp/2k as the OS, and modify the Windows GUI to your own specs.

The problems with that is, a) the CDs would have to run the software, snd save to the Hard drive, so everyone would have to follow a specific set of rules.

Rules for saving
Rules for controls (gamepad)
Reset on the CD-rom = shut down of the software back to the front end

Basically it would run any PC game, but its possible.

I have modified windows server 2000 to autorun a custom server setup, there was no windows gui, once set there was no way to change it, modify anything. It auto downloaded patches and updates from the web server. every 2 weeks defragged, ever 24 hours did a back up onto a tape back up and then server side back up to a remote server (we had a OC3 line lots of bandwidth)

p3 512mb ram 20gb hard disk (partitioned into 5/15), decent video card with tv out, Nic, cdrom with autoload, win 98 (cheapest), keyboard, mouse, gamepad and set of dev rules.

There is alot of ways to do a DB console.

Once I get my MSDN package again (not working cant afford to renew it yet) its something I would try. The changeing of the windows GUI/Front end is legal as long as its your copy of windows. We had a reseller licence for the servers, thats why I know its legal.

I also have a couple spare p3s desktops and a spare p4 laptop, its something that I think would be fun to try. Basically all my xbox is a computer in a blackbox.
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microsoft suck they make us all use a poop os and wont let us develop games for thier console with out a load of legal jabber!

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i would look into DB on linux if your serious about making a console. First of all linux is far superior to windows (MY opinion, HA micro$oft cant sue me now ) Secondly you can configure linux much better. You could script a login procedure that auto mounts and loads the cd. Before anyone starts saying "DB wont run without DirectX" there is a program (i have a feeling its called directY but im not sure) for linux that mimics directx.

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The Dark Padawan
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I agree with pricey !

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Posted: 12th Sep 2003 02:21 Edited at: 12th Sep 2003 02:23
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Yes, falelorn has the right idea. If you wanted to be very,very slick (lol! ) you could re-write your own custom language with syntax like the ones of db in something like C/C++

Then what ya do is what my dream is, create a custom OS!!!This may involve you and hundreds of people programmiung in Assembly and/or binary for many years, but remember, this is the slick route . Install this on a custom, re-built computer and voila! You have a db system, lol

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Well i have some of the interface done, basic dev rule set, and working on a few other things.

you can check it out in my forums, off of my web page.

www.nearc.com
goto forums
very bottom

Forums are new (like 1 day :p )

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Also, im not making a new OS, im using WIN 2k and modifing the front end, GUI.

Im doing it similar to the XBOX Console.

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Also regarding Linux and DB, I would never do it on Linux.

Im a fan of MS, windows. Linux is good, but to many variables getting it to run on that OS. Windows is native to DB, much easier.

Plus once im done, I can show/tell/release the information for people to do it them selves.

I plan to have it run on Win 2k, and XP. 2k is expensive for most people, and XP is cheap. I may even do it on 98. Since if your like me you have 9 copies of the OS sitting around.

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koshi
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Posted: 12th Sep 2003 07:16 Edited at: 12th Sep 2003 07:17
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Thatd be awsome to have a console for darkbasic, and for other languages.
Instead of using the computer where you wont know if the user has the requirements for the game.
Thered already be millions of games for it, you would be able to download the games off the net onto a cd to play or buy em at the store.
I think theres a hole in the market for this..

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I added this into the Work In Progress thread. And have some more info on my boards.

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I do think it would be to expensive to buy from scratch. But who knows. Once I fix all the bugs, and figure out the easiest way to do it, ill be releasing a guide and software for it.

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Just a thought.
Is there a way to turn a DBC program into a rom that the "Near Dead" Dreamcast can play.

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No, Dreamcast works on the Windows CE OS, actually a mutated hybrid of it. It was a really easy system to develop for, as is all the windows CE products. I DLed a *cough* SDK, and dabbled when I had one.

I suppose if TGC wanted to they could make a Windows CE compliant version of DBClassic. Then with the SDK you could probally do it. Im sure Sega still has them, or you can find them out there. The Dreamcast is still supported in Korea and Japan (or so I hear)

It would be easy for DB to work on an XBOX I imagine. Since game dev companies have spent only a couple weeks transfering PC titles to the Xbox.

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And what would the point be ? Home users wont be able to develop for the XBOX and it would be very costly.


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Agreed, I was just saying it should be fairly easy to use DB for the xbox. Not that anyone would. No one who can afford the SDK would use DB anyways.

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lol, you have a point there

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