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Ian T
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Duh wats a idiot


















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/me gets his stamper
/me stamps the words "Idiot" backwords on Mouse's forehead

look in the mirror Mouse

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BOOOO!

also spooky's avatar sends chills through me

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'also spooky's avatar sends chills through me'

er... lol

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most things with more than 4 legs. if it's small or can't injure you i don't mind it (like ants, ladybugs, fireflies, tiny millipedes (hehe they're rather tickly in fact)) but bigger bugs like crickets, grasshoppers, beetles, etc. half scare half disgust me. i think it's because insects and arachnids are so alien compared to mammals -- i mean, many legs, many eyes, they've got an exoskeleton, etc.. i also hate most flying bugs, because they always seem to fly RIGHT FOR YOU especially big ones.

i'm not scared of too much. i don't have night terror (i've never heard of it before now and i'm amazed so many people have it) and i don't remember many of my dreams, and i haven't had a nightmare in years. i don't know how people have so many dreams; or rather i don't know how people remember so many dreams. last dream i remember had to be like 2 months ago.

but i do remember a few nightmares. one when i was real young (like 3 or 4) and we watched gremlins, and that night i had a nightmare about the big juicy looking one jumping at me. another nightmare is when i was in a mall and suddenly there was a bomb or something in there, there was a countdown timer in my vision for some reason, and everyone was rushing to get out.. i was almost out the door when i got caught on a plant or something and the bomb went off. not too scary but very disturbing. and the third nightmare i remember was when i was in my house looking down the hall into a dark room, i see a pair of red eyes appear, and it jumps at me -- and i wake up. scared the hell out of me.

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Aren't lobster just giant insects? And craw-fish (as they say in New Orleans USA) are called mud-bugs, like miniature lobster.

yeeesh! I used to like lobster on occasion.


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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 06:38 Edited at: 9th Sep 2003 06:45
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I remember a nightmare I had when I was three. I was traped in K-Mart surrounded by a bunch of headless maniquins, and the little stub the was used to place the head on was curling up trying to grap my finger.

They did a study once on dreams where the people who were into art and stuff remembered there dreams more than those who lead a more serious, business-like life. we allways dream, it's just hard to remember them.

I like how duel topiced this is, dreams and bugs.

[edit] Lobsters are crustaceans, along with craps. Also a lobster's blood is blue.


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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 06:44 Edited at: 9th Sep 2003 06:45
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For a long time, my scariest dream-- I usually got it about a week or two a year when I had a cold-- was that I had woken up (I may have), but the entire room was in grayscale. And I would keep staring at the door because I couldn't move my eyes, or my body at all, and this fear of something in the room that I couldn't see or sense would keep growing, and growing... sometime I'd hear voices along with it, shouting and screaming in the background, although I never saw anything but my room.

Sometimes I would have those dreams all night. They'd keep me from going to sleep a while after that. I haven't had them for years now, but they were awful while they lasted.


Another time I went to sleep and instantly saw a massive, flaming red dog (your typical hell hound really). It opened up its mouth and bit my head right off... I was seeing the whole thing from first person, so ouch. It hurt. Badly. I woke up instantly in a cold sweat, still feeling pain, and found out that about 15 seconds had passed since I had started to drift off... really creepy because it normally takes me 20 minutes to drift off. That's the weirdest dream I've ever had, I can tell ya that

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Ah fever dreams, I LOVE fever dreams, posasible the only good side of being sick.


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Quote: "death is around the corner 24/7, however far off that corner is"


mayhaps i should build some sort of death clock!
http://www.angelfire.com/wizard2/unpotkf/deathclock.mp3


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Quote: "Arrow: Lobsters are crustaceans, along with craps. Also a lobster's blood is blue."


ya, the whole exoskeleton thing, I heard or read somewhere they are technically just giant insects (lobsters, that is). Not sure though. As far as "craps", I thought that was something you played in the alley with dice. Blue blood? Ick! And I thought Vulcans were nasty!



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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 08:04 Edited at: 9th Sep 2003 08:27
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You don't like needles or doctors Inkybro?

I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to scare you with my signature.

I'll change it.
I never thought about how some people are deathly afraid of needles.

They don't bother me.
In medical school you have to stick each other...
So I have been stuck a million times and I have stuck a million times.

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no, u ppl didnt get my point in my first post, i know death is probably always checking on you to see if its ur time but it would be creepy if u sumhow cheated death and got him pissed, then it would be creepy.

(grim reaper sitting in messy paper covered underworold, *runs finger down list* damn this! Omega wuz supposed to die 5 years ago! No one cheats death! NO ONE!
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even with without scientific or religiuos proof.

Religious proof is a contradiction in terms, isn't it?

People keep saying night terrors. Do you guys actually suffer from those or do you mean nightmares? We always call them nightmares in the UK and recently I found out night terrors and night mares are different things. Night mares are when you have a bad dream and night terrors are when you experience incredible fear for no apparent reason while asleep, and physically react to it (sleep walk style) like screaming and trying to get out of the room etc. That sound scarey if you ask me.

Still, there's nothing quite as scarey as Brixton Accademy and an Iron Maiden concert! Two pairs of underwear, please. That's what scares me more than anything - violence. I'm 22, I've only been in 2 proper fights in my whole life, and that's plenty for me. Scares me two ways from sunday. And seeing as more and more people carry knives these days ...

I know someone who would lucid dream, but apparently it happened all the time without him trying. He couldn't tell the difference between reality and his dream while he was dreaming, and he found it scarey that he would go through a whole day in his dream and say and do things to people before waking up and finding out it was all crap, and he'd never managed to do those things. Imagine going to bed every night, and every night finally telling that girl you liked her, and her responding, and then waking up and finding out it was a load of crap (as an example). So he used to write down "WAKE UP" on a piece of paper, and would be constantly looking at it so when he was dreaming, he'd remember the bit of paper, figure out he was dreaming and wake up. How messed up is that?

Personally I've never really had control in my dreams, which has pissed me off a fair few times when I meet a nice lady. The worst thing is "weakness" syndrome though. When you fight someone in your dream but all your punches have no power, and basically you hit like a woman (roll on the sexist comments, but there's a noticable difference). You get in a scrap with your evil bad dream geeza, and you're punching him but not only does every punch feel like you've got 10 tons stapped to your arms, but when you finally make contact with them ... well, you might as well slap them lightly with a wet kipper and appologise for the smell.

I'd like to dream where I can punch properly. There ... I said it ... Jim, please would you fix it for me to punch properly in my dreams. Yours sincerely.

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Ooops. Forgot my biggest fear. Multiple Sclerosis. Mainly effects women, but my mum has it, and there's some proof it may run in the family. Not looking forward to the possibility of that, and that's for sure.

Edit: There's one for you Randi. Get your brain box out on that one and inform me.

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Quote: "Do you guys actually suffer from those or do you mean nightmares?"
I've had nightmares, mostly about me winding up on the wrong side of the law, once I dreamed that my mom died right in front of my eyes. I can deal with that, night terror voids all reason. I don't yell and fight though, any kinda of movement only makes it worse, thus I keep as still as possible, I actually get so scared I can't speek.

Quote: "When you fight someone in your dream but all your punches have no power"
Hate that, that and the can't run or scream, drives me nuts. I found out how counter it though, use less effort. The most force you put into the action the weaker you become. When ever your attacks don't seem to do anything, calm down and focus on attacking fluidly insted of with power, works every time.


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i run in slow motion in dreams
hate it so much

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The thing that scares me the most is that Americans think that all English speak like the queen, ugh I hate American shows that have English people speaking really posh.
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Damn you Fallout.
You said that just because you knew I would look it up.

Ok...
Get out my medical books,
...MS page 241.

Doesn't say anything about effecting females more than males.
It does say it effects around 500,000 Americans.
Usually ages 20 - 40.

Signs and symptoms =
paralysis, numbness, double vision, foot dragging, loss of balance, extreme weakness, hand tremors, speech and hearing problems, bladder and bowel problems, and "pins and needles" sensation.
It also has spontaneous remission which may last for months or years.
But usually progressive with a series of unpredictable attacks increasing disability.

Causes =
The disease attacks the myelin sheaths of the nerves, which gets replaced with scar tissue which distorts the impulse.
Research is based upon the idea that it is from a reactivated, dormant, or slow acting virus or autoimmune response.
It does say that their is evidence of genetic factors that may determine a predisposition.
Viruses being considered are measles, chickenpox, mumps, and parainfluenza.

It says treatment is basically hormones and steriods to relieve symptoms and hasten remission.
And, the use of physical therapy.


Well there you go!!

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About a year ago I noticed a wasp building a nest outside my bedroom window, so I called the apartment office. Two days later they dispatched their crackpot maintenance team (two mexican illegals armed with pool skimmers) to handle the situation. They stood around for about 15 minutes formulating a plan, and eventually decided it would be best to just chuck the skimmers at the nest (nearly breaking my window) and run away. Problem solved.

Anyway about three months later I noticed the wasp returned. For a few days the lil wasp just flew around, desperately searching for her nest. I really felt bad. Now she is hard at work rebuilding the nest. And considering the fact that I am about to move out, I think ill let her be.

The moral of the story is... Well I forget. But the point is... Well I forget that to

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I rember having dreams where I couldn't do anything. I would try to walk down the stairs and my legs would buckle and I would fall. Then I would be at the top of the stairs again and it would repeat hundreds of times. Had one where I was trying to play golf and I couldn't hit the ball (I don't play golf) and one where I couldn't even walk.

Once I had a dream where Saddam Hussain kidnapped this woman I worked with and buried her head deep in sand in the desert and me and all the people I worked with had to go rescue her. We tried to bargain with saddam hussain but he kept kicking the kidnapped woman in the face. Then I started to wake up.

I occasionally think I have done something only to realise I did it in a dream which can be confusing at times.
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Actually scientific proof is the oxymoron. There's no such thing. Science works by derailing all other likely theories, but there's never proof. For all we know gravity could be controlled by a big floating in the sky-- it's just unlikely.

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when i moved to the city, I had flying dreams over highway streetlights as a kid but when someone saw me i couldnt fly anymore, as well as climbing up walls stopped working when i tried to show someone. frustrating but fun.

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I had a really bad nightmare once...

I was only 6 at the time, you can imagine how I felt.
I was having a dream, I was walking with a friend on the side of the road to go to the McDonalds play house (please remember, I was 6 at the time, I dont go there anymore, but I do still love their chicken ) then, he just pushed me onto the road, and a huge 18 wheeler was heading my way.

I woke up, scared out of my life, but heres the scary part, I was still experiencing the dream, I was half in reality, half in my subconcious torture. i see the truck run over me, smash me to the side, and then run over my arm. I was screaming, loud, but all I could hear was a muffled voice as I subconciously saw the truck hit me like I was nothing more than a bug hitting a windshield. I felt horrible after that, my arm was throbbing horribly, and I was so scared, I didnt fall asleep for the rest of the night. Even though my parents were next to my side for the rest of the night, I was petrified, and didnt go back to sleep.


I've been outcasted from the public's society.
Why must I be outcasted here too.
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[edit] Point taken, it would be silly to try and describe something so complicated in a simplified form that could be missunderstood/missused

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astral projection is dangerous to some people, I recomend not to try it unless you know the consequences and can live with it...don't force yourself or forcefully will it to happen, it really depends on how you think, astral projection isn't a good thing, it usually happens for a reason, if it does happen to you and you still want to be able to experience Astral projection, don't tell anyone, seriously, don't tell anyone, once you realise the purpose of why you "Astral Project" (or so you guys call it), you wouldn't be able to anymore unless there is a further purpose/reason...(it isn't good when that still happens, your "soul" becomes weak and attracts all sorts of wierd stuff), basically if you don't need to do it the better, and only few born with it can do it... and those who have experienced it would know it is never a GOOD thing, something bad always happens if you "Astral project"

(don't bother asking how I know all this, I won’t tell), it sounds to me that some of you have been "experimenting"(looky at mouse) or at least is in that sorta lean, do "experiment", but only up to a point, if you feel you your "soul" is "shattering/dispersing/drifting/feeling light/weak" etc, then stop @ least until your feeling "normal" again...don't go any further, if you do feel normal again wait till your mind "stablizes", and if you feel like continuing "experimenting" make sure you don't fall into the "TRAP",

To most of you, you will think this is a load of crap, but some of you(looking at mouse/arrow)might know a bit of what I'm trying to say...

remember don't go there if you don't need to.(i hope by saying this you don't do the opposite), curiousity can kill you

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I worry very little over "shattering/dispersing/drifting/feeling light/weak[ening]" my mind or soul, what ever happends I will adapt, having a few glitcy thoughts or feelings that can shadder my pysche interests me greatly. Why, well it conplicated but I think truth could lie there, if the floor crumbles benether your feet you're bound to land on something that was covered up. Sounds insane, but that's how I see it and I think it could be fun. Wondering around trying to piece together what you think is reality, try to remember what's real and what not, fun stuff. Having a single moment of where youcan consider that reality is as unstable as dreams, that's a very exciting feeling. I have a few tastes of that kinda stuff, for example there are several time in my past that I can't remember if an event actually happend or if I dreamed them. Another weird thing is most of my eary childhood memories (before I was four) take place at night. Even opening persents at Chirstmas is at night I find that very weird. I got half a dosen of these type of thing but it's really hard to remember stuff that far back.


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well, if you must explore it, please take it slow, don't rush, and don't tell anyone when something happens(especially if it's the first time, you may not have a chance to go back)...

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No worries, I may welcome tragedy but I'm not reckless. Personally I see my night terror as some kinda of trial or training. Whatever happens, happens; not that I expect to go on some kinda Astrail adventure. Such matters are far too meta-physical to try and understand them without the aid of the subconscious, or even the archetype.


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@ toilet freak

This is 1st i heard of astral projection being dangerous. And when you say don't tell anyone if you acheive it, do you mean during or after?
You got me all intrigued.
Or maybe you just winding us up?
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You can't harm yourself during astral projection. It's a mental state. Theoretically you could destroy your brain or stupid things like that, but I have never heard of that happening and experts say it's basically impossible.

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Ah, just read his above post.

Allow me to say it's a load of bull .

Nothing there is true. There's no trap, no dangers, no 'loss of soul' or any crap like that.

'astral projection isn't a good thing, it usually happens for a reason'

Completely untrue also .

Don't worry about any of this people, it's totally fake.

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Lets see here, you're basicly removing your conscious from your body, allowing many of your mental defences down, to wander around a vast uncharted viod, filled with countless unknown forms of existance. Oh yeah, sounds real safe to me, didn't any of you guy play D&D (JOKE)? Seriously whenever you're dealing with unknowns you really got to be on your toes, remember that people slip into comas, vanish into thin air, and even conbust into flame for no reason what so ever. Never asume that anything is safe, "The first step towards obivion is underestimating the situation".


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It's all in your mind which is a pretty safe place to be.

Quote: " if the floor crumbles benether your feet you're bound to land on something that was covered up."


Reminds me of a dream I had where I went to solder a cable at work and the solder melted, the cable started to melt then the vise and the desk and the factory. Everything just melted downwards into blackness even my body.
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Sorry Arrow, that's not how it works . It's not a 'vast unknown void'-- it's in your mind. Ever tried projecting to a place you don't know about? It's impossible-- unless you switch to a lucid dream and imagine the place up-- because it's all working off of your subconcious memory of where you've already been. It's all familiar ground. It's all in your head .

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Haha, this turned up on google searching for 'Astral Projection':

' Ranged +5 Minimum POW(4) -1 Self +2 Req.
1 hr concentration -7 Invisible +5 ...for each use -2 Drain (POW) +2 Req.'

Shows what geeks we are

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Last I check humans, on average, only use 10% of there mind. That leaves 90% of unknown territory to explore.
Quote: "Ever tried projecting to a place you don't know about? It's impossible-- unless you switch to a lucid dream and imagine the place up "
You just said it yourself, the mind is nearly infinate, if you are a low level 'stage' were funtions of the mind appear as corporeal, you can do some damage. Besides that I seam to remember a little problem known as schizophrenia. You never heard of those that get so interspective that they fall off the edge. You seriously never heard of a really bad acid trip?

Astral: Of, relating to, emanating from, or resembling the stars. Astral Progection has nothing to do with deep levels of unconscious, you're basicly sending your soul outside your body, what's that got to do with the millions of pitfalls of the subconscious and Archetype?


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Quote: " Last I check humans, on average, only use 10% of there mind. That leaves 90% of unknown territory to explore."




http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm

Quote: "Astral: Of, relating to, emanating from, or resembling the stars. Astral Progection has nothing to do with deep levels of unconscious, you're basicly sending your soul outside your body, what's that got to do with the millions of pitfalls of the subconscious and Archetype?"


If my brain can create a realistic world for me to dream and view as from my eyes then it isn't going to be too much of a problem to view it from somewhere other than my eyes is it. Doesn't mean my soul (if I even have one) has left my body.
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Dont remind me of pitfalls.

Another Nightmare (I was 8 at the time, so I was still scared):
My brother and I were climbing a circular staircase that was attached to the walls of a cylinder like tower, and we were supposed to find a great treasure at the top when we got there. Where we got there, there was the treasure, on a floating platform in the middle of nothingness. There were 2 bridges to it, the dangerous way, and the safe way. My brother was first to go to it, he took the dangerous way. He made it across safely. I chose to take the safe path, and I was halfway there, and the bridge snapped (WTF ) and I fell. I was falling for a while, and heres a wierd part, it goes into a first person view like in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time when link used his hookshot, and there it was, links hookshot, in its 3D, low poly glory, I still had a shot a survival. I aim it at a wooden post, fire, and what do ya know, it bounces off of it. My body slowly does a verical 180 and right before I hit the ground, I wake up. My nightmares are influenced by things that I get enjoyment out of Weird.


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'Astral: Of, relating to, emanating from, or resembling the stars. Astral Progection has nothing to do with deep levels of unconscious, you're basicly sending your soul outside your body, what's that got to do with the millions of pitfalls of the subconscious and Archetype?'

Astral has more to do with the spiritual plane than it does the stars. Many wiccan and pagan, and some 'new-age' beliefs follow that the Astral is the spiritual plane apart from the physical where your soul resides.

Ask any expert on astral projection and he will tell you that it is not dangerous, unless somebody is actively wishing mental harm upon you-- and even that last point will only be noted by the more skeptical of the pack.

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your definition of astral projection may be diferent to mine, believe what you want to(mouse)... if you think it's safe then... well, thats good for you, you'll prolly never exp it,

there are some people on this forumn that seems to be close to becoming aware(I hope you guys know who you are), I won't spoil it for you...one of you I'm pretty sure won't be able to avoid it(and I recomend that special person to not "expose" his/her childhood dreams-before 8 years old-it would be better if none of you spoke about whatever dreams you have that effected your life-noticeably-), for the rest of you I hope you do.and good luck to the special people

If you think I'm crazy, I don't blame you, I won't argue, this isn't a subject I talk about, I ussually try to hide it from others(in real life, I would never talk about this face to face, but I prolly won't meet with most of you so it should be fine)

Dreams actually tell you quite alot, most people take them for granted, please try to understand them, now and before, 8years old, before your common sense overides you, the time where your open/clean is ussually where the most important dreams occur, whatever dreams you can still remember, please try to understand it, you will be alot more understanding of "yourself". A link you know about is the "dreamworld", use it, it is there for a reason

the more you understand your dreams the stronger/resistant to "stuff" you'll become, I must admit though some dreams can be misleading, got to be careful,

I don't know why you would want to astral project, if you new why you astral project you wouldn't want to.

personally I don't care if you think this is a load of bull, and I personally wish I was like that too...

those who have truly exp it, and understand it, would not tell you about it(unless there was a special reason), and you would not be able to tell anyhow, unless your "special" too.

Everyone should try to understand their dreams(I can say that safely).If you can avoid anything else please do.they'll come to you, you just have to leave a "opening" for them, don't go to them.

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Winch, I can't remember every thing I've done nor can I attively recall any amount of information at any given time, however when I'm reminded or retold I suddenly remember it, now why is that? The magority of everything you do and think does not lie consciously. Reflexes, emotions, instincs, beating of the heart, they all are done without our awaerness, it not that we don'y use 90% of our mind, it's that were aren't conscious of it. Besides that there are a good deal of parts of the brain we don't use, ever heard of a lobotomy?

You're still thinking Astreal projection is some kinda of in depth hallucination, I suggest that you open you mind and research the topic.


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I used to have bad dreams as a child but now I never seem to (unless I'm sick).

In my dreams now, I am very rarely afraid, even if I should be. I once dreamed that I was in a room full of bodies of recently murdered people with blood over the walls, yet I was not afraid - weird. Even in my dreams where I'm on the run from people, I'm not that worried.

I think in dreams your physically abilities are whatever your confidence allows. If you are worried, then you can barely walk, but if you are sure of yourself, you can jump 30 feet in the air.

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Posted: 11th Sep 2003 17:55 Edited at: 11th Sep 2003 17:59
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' you'll prolly never exp it'

I already have. Frankly, I know more and have expirienced more astral projection than most people here put together .

This talk about 'being careful with your dreams' and 'leaving an opening' etc is ridiculous. Sorry kid, this isn't a horror movie. It dosen't work like that.

Again, all sites on astral projection will agree with me...

www.astralvoyage.org:

On whether dead people are dangerous:

'Dead people can have many appearances. It has been commented over and over that the higher their vibration, the more they appear like a radiant star. Once you tune into their frequencies they will look younger than when they died, free of any physical defects. They also have various garments on. You can touch them in the astral and this can be a very warming experience.'


www.about.com's Paranormal section:

'Jones: Are there any dangers people should be aware of?

Gross: When you do this consciously, there is no danger in it. One thing I'll say, you must develop your thinking skills, and know what you want and where you want to go. The only dangerous part of it, is if you practice it while you are taking in drugs or alcohol. Remember back in the sixties when people were taking the drug called LSD, and they had some bad trips? They ended up in the lower astral. I'm trying to teach that you can have full control of what you are doing. I would suggest if you like to drink or take drugs that you not try it.'

www.inlighttime.com:

'Sandy: It has been said that there is a silver cord attached to the body, and that this cord could be severed when you astrally project, thereby making it impossible to come back to your body. Is there any real danger of this happening?

Jerry: Absolutely not. The silver cord is connected to you when you enter the physical body for the first time, and is not cut again until you leave for the last time. It is infinitely elastic and the least little disturbance will bring you back to your body whether you plan it or not. Thus, there is not danger in this; it is a gift given to us to learn how to use.'


I suggest you stop listening to someone who's watched too many horror movies and start listening to the experts .


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Furthermore, from www.crystalinks.com:

'If you get fearful, please stop as you are not ready for astral projection.
Anything done in metaphysics should feel comfortable and easy.
If it is stressful, let it go for now, as you are not ready.'

In other words, if you think it's dangerous and you're scared of 'falling into the pit' or whatnot crap, you shouldn't be doing it .

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as I said believe what you want to, I do believ the mouse's definition is diferent to mine...

don't know if you actually care but from what i can see, one of you should know about this(you can take it ar leave it), I can't say who it is. it'll ruin it.

paralyses, not sure what your "status" is, I'll have to see you to know,

if your paralysed and your perfectly healthy, I do suspect some wierd stuff is happening, try to fight it, you won't be able to move, or talk, you will be able to see(maybe even through walls), if you can see anything out of the ordinary, fight it, same with dreams, if your facing a hostile thing, fight it, don't run, use that little will you have and build it, it is usuallly more than 1 thing, don't fear it, resist it as hard as you can...

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Quote: "Winch, I can't remember every thing I've done nor can I attively recall any amount of information at any given time, however when I'm reminded or retold I suddenly remember it, now why is that? The magority of everything you do and think does not lie consciously. Reflexes, emotions, instincs, beating of the heart, they all are done without our awaerness, it not that we don'y use 90% of our mind, it's that were aren't conscious of it. Besides that there are a good deal of parts of the brain we don't use, ever heard of a lobotomy?"


My view of the world is very differnt to yours. Having a better than average education and understanding of biology I could argue every point you made there, but that would be pointless. You see the world through your eyes and I see it through mine.

The mind is a very powerfull and incredably complex. It's only connection with the physical world is sensory input all of which can be used to sort of trick the brain. I can see how it could become possible for someone to learn to trick the brain. When I was in primary school and had much more time for such things I could shut my eyes and trick my brain into thinking that my body was falling/rising/rotating/floating. I could also trick it in other ways most of which I have forgotton. Unfortunatly the adult world with it's routine, less sleep, cynacism, more time occupation etc. has left me with a lot less control. Sound is the only sense I still have occasional control over, every so often I can imagine sounds in such a way that they appear to come from my ears not my brain.

I can see how this type of thing can be interpreted in different ways by different people. You see it your way I see it mine. We are proberly both wrong.
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Quote: "The mind is a very powerfull and incredably complex. It's only connection with the physical world is sensory input all of which can be used to sort of trick the brain"
Ever wonder if the brain (the mind is non-physical, the 'OS' of the brain, so to speak) has is own form or sensory input?


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Write Mr. Shyamalan.

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Btw, aside from your strange conversation about the mind and the brain and basically stuff that the foremost experts on the subject don't fully understand .... here's a scarey word for you: Cancer

Seems like most of my mates who are around my age (20-25) are all concious of cancer now. We're all at the beginning of the lower boundary for contracting various forms of cancer. We're all right in the middle of the bollock cancer main risk period, we're all at the age where our trend for colesterol and heart disease is likely to be set, and everything else is looming over us with impending possibilities. We're all in the middle of our youthful bubble, but all these cancers are trying to break into it with ever sharper bubble popping implements.

As Carol Vordamen might say to Richard Whitely:

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That's a scarey word.

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Oxygen is carcinogenic.
1 in 3 people will be touched by cancer apparently.
Despite one of my parents dieing young from cancer it doesn't scare me in the slightest.
Sure there are things you can do to reduce the proberbility of being affected by it but when a process that goes on in almost every cell in your body can be fatal you can't worry about it too much and just have to carry on with life. It's a risk that is taken for us, the large ammounts of energy a human needs just to live doesn't come for free. It's a risky process but you are damed if you do and dammed if you don't.
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