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thenerd
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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 02:46 Edited at: 12th Feb 2011 02:48
Apparently Crysis 2 was just leaked... I honestly don't know what to say. Things like these bother me. I'm avoiding anywhere that even has screenshots, because I don't want to ruin the experience when it does get released.

It seems more and more games are getting leaked earlier... the general attitude seems to be that gamers want to be able to play games earlier, and don't care as much about the bugs. Minecraft is one example of that... I don't think it would have been nearly as successful if Notch had waited until releasing it to allow people to play. The experience would have been entirely different.

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 02:54
That's the worst thing that could have possibly happened ever...

Ugh, goshdarn people freakin wanting to have everything early. Anyone who's pirating it probably is feeling smug that they got it earlier than everyone else.
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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 07:40 Edited at: 12th Feb 2011 07:42
As if PC gaming wasn't on shaky ground already. No wonder only a handful of developers are still making games for PC. Mostly we just get XBox 360 ports, if we're lucky that is.

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 13:21
i am still buying the game when it comes out, maybe if it was already leaked, they will make the official version better

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 13:49
Maybe EA should start, you know, treating their employees with respect so that they don't go around leaking product.

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 13:59
Quote: "Maybe EA should start, you know, treating their employees with respect so that they don't go around leaking product."


That definitely makes me rethink the situation. I didn't think about that, and it's definitely a good point. The fact that it was probably uploaded by a developer to make a point (or stick it to someone) gives a totally different take than the usual "piracy" debate.

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 15:48
yeah that is a good point...

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 16:34
Also,with a beta released,users could easily test everything and give feedback what to fix,not to wait for patches later.


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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 17:21
Sheesh, 9.2GB. This is going to take a while.



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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 17:46
Seriously? Only 9.2? What kind of insane compression methods are they using...?

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 17:59 Edited at: 12th Feb 2011 19:19
Why would they compress it? It's a leak.

EDIT: I love how what I just said made no sense.

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 19:13
Quote: "because I don't want to ruin the experience when it does get released."


I'd hate to ruin disappointment too.

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 23:33 Edited at: 12th Feb 2011 23:37
Quote: "Maybe EA should start, you know, treating their employees with respect so that they don't go around leaking product."


Do you know for a fact that it was an EA employee, or are you just speculating? Couldn't it have been someone at the disc copier?

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And besides, regular EA employees wouldn't have access to this game, as they're just the publishers.


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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 23:50
well i dont see who else other than EA employee could have even allowed a leak. If it wasnt an employee who actually leaked a game he proboly gave a copy to someone who did

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Posted: 12th Feb 2011 23:52 Edited at: 12th Feb 2011 23:53
Wouldn't it be a Crytek employee? EA is just the publisher, they didn't develop it. If it even was an employee.

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Wow thats pretty...wow. Hmm. Welp. Thats a backhand to the face of EA and Crytek if I've ever seen one.

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 13:34
It could've been a breach in security. When you have 10+ employees developing a game, chances are it's thrown into a collaborative server in order to maintain workflow, meaning that if one employee has a bad password, it could compromise the whole project.

This reminds be back when Half-Life 2 was leaked, which leads me to believe Crytek will delay the release further, and change many things.

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 15:04
Quote: "This reminds be back when Half-Life 2 was leaked, which leads me to believe Crytek will delay the release further, and change many things."
Yes, but this is much worse, considering the leak is nearly the full game...

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 17:48
Seeing as the release is fifty days from now, they would have been testing full builds of the game, which is why the leak is so complete. It could be an employee of either crytek or EA at this point in development

oh, this IS the full game, more or less. I'm sure EA is desperate to tell you otherwise, but if the release date is still on schedule, they'll be tweaking and play-testing mostly

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Posted: 14th Feb 2011 00:00
Quote: "Do you know for a fact that it was an EA employee, or are you just speculating? Couldn't it have been someone at the disc copier?"


It was pure speculation.

That said, I do think it was a blow to PC gaming in general.

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Posted: 14th Feb 2011 03:16
I actually didn't ever play crysis that much... I like the Far Cry series better! Though Far Cry 2 was a far cry from Far Cry: Instincts (I mean, Far Cry 2 was an amazing game, but it didn't have the replay ability of instincts). I guess I don't really know how big it is in the gaming community (well, it IS a pretty big PC benchmark/"can i run this on max settings" game). I'd be more sad if something like the elder scrolls skyrim or dragon age 2 got leaked.

Actually holy crap i just googled it and Dragon Age 2 is coming out next month! Crysis 2 is too? Jebus then Skyrim is coming out in november. and then duke nukem forever, bulletstorm and brink...

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Posted: 14th Feb 2011 20:19
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Actually holy crap i just googled it and Dragon Age 2 is coming out next month! Crysis 2 is too? Jebus then Skyrim is coming out in november. and then duke nukem forever, bulletstorm and brink..."
Not to mention portal 2 in April!

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Posted: 14th Feb 2011 22:15
Quote: "Also,with a beta released,users could easily test everything and give feedback what to fix,not to wait for patches later.
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thats actually a very good idea but then again i heard the leak is inanley buggy, they are proboly fixing it and i think the release date will be set back to maybe change the game so even the pirates will want to buy it. Infact i looked at the comments of the torrent almost everyone there feels so sorry for crytek many say they will buy the game

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Posted: 15th Feb 2011 22:12
Just to pee all over the injury.

Killzone 3 for the ps3 was leaked yesterday.

Guess it didnt want to be left out

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Posted: 15th Feb 2011 22:49
well i dont have PS3 and the whole process of hacking/ loading custom firmware on the PS3 is just frigging hard and annoying. also console games are waaay more expensive than PC games

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Quote: "well i dont have PS3 and the whole process of hacking/ loading custom firmware on the PS3 is just frigging hard and annoying. also console games are waaay more expensive than PC games."

You insert a flash drive with the codes on it.

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Quote: "You insert a flash drive with the codes on it."


= not as easy as downloading a torrent.



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You need to hack your ps3 before you can play the torrented version.

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Quote: "You need to hack your ps3 before you can play the torrented version."


I was referring to the PC. It's a lot easier to pirate PC games.



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Oh I see. Yes, yes it is.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2011 08:48
and with every new game the firmware needs to be updated, so even if you have a hacked firmware it wont work. I remember i had a PSP with dos emulator stuff on it (i wanted to play daggerfall which is freeware) which needed the hacked firmware to run, i bought a UMD disk of final fantasy dissydia and it updated my firmware completley eracing the hacked firmware.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2011 09:07
Quote: "I'd hate to ruin disappointment too."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL.... wew...
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Killzone 3 for the ps3 was leaked yesterday.

Guess it didnt want to be left out

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YOu guys are killing me....i have to pee.
Quote: "Why would they compress it? It's a leak.

EDIT: I love how what I just said made no sense.

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I do that too.... I hate to be the one to put out the fire.... but piracy isnt anything new. People have been pirating and "leaking" things long before now. I think the effect isnt as great as some of us make it out to be. Games are more and more becoming oriented to consoles not because of piracy but because consoles are more user friendly and because they are getting closer to the power of modern pcs and less limited in what can be created for them. I dont think this news should bring the game world crumbling down to its knees. Its just a small leak in the boat we call pc gaming...lol.

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Someone made an interesting point the other day when I said I was buying/pre order Crysis 2. He told me he downloaded the Beta cause there was no demo. Now I know the demo comes out after release which is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. Now he buys games based on demo, so he doesn't waste £40 on a game, so in a sense, he's getting his own demo.

I checked a few of the torrent sites and they say the same thing "Thanks for the PC demo, FINALLY, Crytek.".

So do people have a valid point when it comes to no demo before release. Piracy shouldn't be an option, but people need to know if it will run on their rig, even a benchmark tool would be nice. I'm for supporting the dev's all the way, they just need to release a game in the right way.
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Posted: 16th Feb 2011 17:16
I DLed it, 9.2 GB. It crashes for me after I die sometimes, and it lags some. I would not buy it untill I could get a better version of it to try, or better parts for my awesome rig.

And there is no compression, it is an ISO file. NOthing but a disk file that you mount. It seems to me that it could be missing files, or it could be a part of the game. It looks like pieces that where unnecisary where cut out. Red text appears on the screen that says a few different files are missing, normally in points where they would be called upon.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2011 23:03 Edited at: 16th Feb 2011 23:07
sorry... did you just admit pirating a game

Quote: "I DLed it, 9.2 GB. It crashes for me after I die sometimes, and it lags some. I would not buy it untill I could get a better version of it to try, or better parts for my awesome rig.

And there is no compression, it is an ISO file. NOthing but a disk file that you mount. It seems to me that it could be missing files, or it could be a part of the game. It looks like pieces that where unnecisary where cut out. Red text appears on the screen that says a few different files are missing, normally in points where they would be called upon."


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Quote: "DLed it, 9.2 GB. It crashes for me after I die sometimes, and it lags some. I would not buy it untill I could get a better version of it to try, or better parts for my awesome rig"




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Quote: "or better parts for my awesome rig"

sorry to go on a rant, but presumably that money came from not paying for games

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Crashed on the initial crytek logo animation for me. Quality.



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Posted: 17th Feb 2011 02:02
Quote: "but people need to know if it will run on their rig, even a benchmark tool would be nice"


The leaked version is not even good for that since its only in DX9. so whatever people think about the leak in terms of graphics, its not even close to what the final release should be.

There is an interesting point about making games with graphics far ahead of the times, even tho noone has a mashine good enough to run it on full specs, Games like these drive the hardware market faster as more people start buying higer end parts, which leads to the hardware devs to make more powerful hardware to run these games driving the prices of older stuff down to a more affordable range. Also stuff like that sets standards for game graphics. after crysis1, graphics of the games became much better and now pretty much every modern game has graphics as good as the original crysis.

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Quote: "The leaked version is not even good for that since its only in DX9. so whatever people think about the leak in terms of graphics, its not even close to what the final release should be. "


DirectX 9 is a lot less extensive than 10. It should run smoother on systems, but I have a theory that companies INTENTIONALLY release their games via "leaks." It sounds absurd, I know, but if you think about it, full game "leaks" normally are buggy and glitchy, when the company is apparently in final stages of packaging the game up getting ready to ship. I think that's a load of crap. Basically, the games that are leaked for the most part are unstable and glitchy, thus rendering them for the most part unplayable. If a company releases the games as a "leak", they get free bug reporting not to mention a popularity and demand for a more stable product, increasing sales.

Maybe my imagination is just running free.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2011 04:22
it is... lol. I cant see the benifit of a companies software being pirated. Especially since most major companys have legal departments the pay out to prevent just that.

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An Adobe representative said that Adobe has benefited from piracy, as people who pirate the software are more likely to buy it legit if they have the money. Microsoft at one point made similar claims.

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nah, not reely. and im the only one right?
Quote: "sorry to go on a rant, but presumably that money came from not paying for games"

thats true. I payed for none of the games i play, because i get games from my dad and other people.

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Quote: "Thats true. I payed for none of the games i play, because i get games from my dad and other people."

Ok so your either:
A.)12 years old
B.)An idiot
C.)A mooch
D.)All of the above

All of them are greaat choices! i call for a poll.

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i vote all of the above!!...LOL

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@warstormed - Since you're a new user, it's pointless to slap you, so I've banned you for a week. This isn't the place to "show off" about pirating a game. TGC doesn't need to be in that kind of gray area.

@Everyone else - I'm locking this thread because the same people come here defending piracy. It's a fruitless debate filled with people who do not understand business or simple economics. This thread has gone downhill.


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