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Geek Culture / The Witcher 2 - first impressions

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Mazz426
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Posted: 18th May 2011 18:59
well I just finished downloading The Witcher 2 on steam a couple hours ago and... I gotta say that this is a superb game, I'm not too far into the game at this moment, only a few hours in but it's been some of the best first few hours in a game that I've seen in a long time.

There is a rather steep difficulty curve in terms of combat, I'm just past the first section and I've easily died ten times. Once you get used to it however it feels really good.

i'm wondering how many of you on here have picked the game up or are planning on getting it. I would like to say however that it is a very visually impressive game and if you plan on playing it on its highest settings you are going to have to have a good computer. I personally have a rather good computer but I did have to turn SSAO and Ubersampling off in order to keep it running smoothly.

So what do you all think?

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Posted: 18th May 2011 19:17
I plan on playing it. I gotta beat the first one first though. I have it, but never got too far into it because of school. Now that I have 3 months off for Summer, I plan on beating all of the games I've been buying.

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Posted: 19th May 2011 06:15 Edited at: 19th May 2011 06:16
I played The Witcher 1 and loved it. However, the release of The Witcher 2 could not have come at a more unopportune time. In a few days, I will become far too busy with real life to play any games at all. And that situation won't change for several months. The knowledge that this game has been released is going to torture me mercilessly.

This, Dragon Age 2, and Skyrim were the three RPGs I was most anticipating this year. Since Dragon Age 2 was such a monumental dissapointment, The Witcher 2 had damn well better be good. Otherwise the burden is all on Skyrim.

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Posted: 19th May 2011 08:09
I played The Witcher 1 and I thought it was awesome!
until you finished the tutorial...

because then i totally lost track of my main mission and was told to... go do some unrelated quests aka go into a cave and slain something...

which sucked..
I just never could understand what to do..

I am still going to try out the witcher 2 though

and for the record, I am a man.

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Posted: 19th May 2011 08:11
Quote: "because then i totally lost track of my main mission and was told to... go do some unrelated quests aka go into a cave and slain something..."


Just like every other RPG out there

It was supposed to be a monkey / kangaroo fire-breathing hybrid. And it would be 70 km tall, and keep a giant laser in it's pouch.
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Posted: 19th May 2011 09:40
yaah i know, just didnt expect it there^^ I am sure the game is great once u get into it though..
guess ill have to give it another try sometime...

and for the record, I am a man.

Mazz426
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Posted: 19th May 2011 10:11 Edited at: 19th May 2011 10:12
Quote: "i totally lost track of my main mission"


The witcher 2 is a lot more focused than the first game was, as they've put a lot of effort into having the player's actions acctually mean something (there are 16 possible endings) the main mission is always key. You can still take side mission but I am yet to do one, I plan on trying to do as many as possible.

I too felt that the witcher 1 began to drag a bit after the tutorial, I think they just gave far too much far too earlly to the player. In the second one you do get thrown in a the deep end a bit, but unlike the first one it's clear what you have to do.

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Posted: 19th May 2011 10:46
Quote: "I too felt that the witcher 1 began to drag a bit after the tutorial, I think they just gave far too much far too earlly to the player. In the second one you do get thrown in a the deep end a bit, but unlike the first one it's clear what you have to do.
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I can't say I ever overwhelmed at the amount of stuff there was to do in the original. I sort of expect it from big RPGs, that even though the main mission is of utmost importance, you still have time to save kittens from trees etc.

I've only played through what I assume is the tutorial from the Witcher 2 and I don't like the fact that I have to use wasd controls, I prefer to use the mouse as I did in the original, but i don't seem to be able to change it in the options screen...

Unfortunately for The Witcher 2, L.A. Noire came out today and so I don't see myself going back to it until I've finished with that.

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Posted: 19th May 2011 18:47
Quote: "Just like every other RPG out there"

Yes, but some have far too many. Dragon Age 2 for instance. All stupid fetch quests. When the side quests are as deep as the main story line, that's where it draws the line for me. Dragon age 2 was built up to be so awesome by Justin and you that I almost cried because I hated it so much lol.
On the other hand, you have a game like mass effect (well it's a one of a kind actually lol) but the main quest line is so intense and awesome, that I don't even mind going and doing a simple fetch quest here and there.

Fable 3 was another example. Though I did really enjoy the game, being FORCED to do a ridiculous amount of pathetically stupid side fetch quests just to play the main story was hands down the most irritating thing I had done... until Dragon Age 2 did it even worse.

However, I still would really love to play both the Witcher 1 and 2 lol.

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Posted: 20th May 2011 07:39
Yes, The Witcher 1 did hit you with a large wall of side quests. It was especially bad during Chapter 2 where the main quest just felt like a string of random side quests anyway. But once you get to Chapter 5 and the Epilogue it miraculously turns into a vastly better game.

What I like about The Witcher is that it gives you these moral decisions you have to make, but it doesn't tell you that one option is good and the other is evil. The developers didn't try to force their own ideas of morality on you, they merely gave you choices and consequences and left it up to you to decide which choice you thought was best.

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Posted: 20th May 2011 17:20
I have The Witcher 1 and loved it (my mom loved it too)... I just hope it's easier to update. It took me days to figure out which files to download to update it properly. It was weird how they separated the language files. If you didn't have both the proper update file and language file that went with that version of the update it wouldn't work. I finally got it to one update under the latest and gave up trying to update. Either my mom or I will get 2 though despite the annoyance of updating.

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Posted: 21st May 2011 01:52
Really? I just downloaded 1 file and it had everything in it.

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Posted: 21st May 2011 10:51
Quote: "Really? I just downloaded 1 file and it had everything in it."


Yeah, it was the most frustrating updates I've ever had to do. Did you do that update from their website or some other site?

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Posted: 21st May 2011 12:21
From their website, which linked to another website which had the patch on it.

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Mazz426
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Posted: 21st May 2011 12:39
I just finished playing through the Troll Trouble DLC side quest, was really good, I've been playing through the 1st chapter and it's even better, I prefer it to the 1st chapter of the origional witcher as the quest feel a little bit less broken up.

Those update issues sound a bit odd, I guess I didn't have to go through that because I got the steam version.

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Posted: 21st May 2011 18:14
Who knows maybe they made it better since I updated but I'm sure for 2 it won't be as bad so I'm not worried.

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Posted: 22nd May 2011 17:55 Edited at: 22nd May 2011 17:57
Quote: "I too felt that the witcher 1 began to drag a bit after the tutorial, I think they just gave far too much far too earlly to the player."


I couldn't disagree more... Interesting. I thought the beginning dragged on. It was linear, filled with boring cutscenes and quite badly written. Actually thought of just abandoning it.

I loved it once I was allowed to explore and get side-tracked on my own. The way it introducer the core mechanics and then let you learn them, master them even, as the game progressed. The two swords, the stances, etc. It felt fresh and genuine, compared to most RPGs.

So far, The Witcher 2 is similar. I just wanted the introductory sequence to be done with, so I could get to the meat of the game.

Now, when I'm a few hours into that, I just love it.

Granted, it's a different beast to the first one in many ways, but I think it gets everything right. The combat is all about your own planning, mixed with a large bit of skill. It's no longer a click fest -- every strike counts. This also means that you die quite a lot before you get the hang of it, however... But every piece of equipment and every rethought strategy makes a huge difference. Something RPGs usually fail, simply because they rely solely on statistics.

There is a lot of that here, too, but skill and strategy are always more important.

Simply put, it's a great game. It has managed to drag me in in much the same way that the older Ultimas did, 10+ years ago.
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Posted: 25th May 2011 11:10
I raged in the first hour of the game really. For me it is just so buggy. The dragon/bridge part was extreamly frustrating, especially since you have to hit f5 to quicksave 24/7 otherwise you will have to do your last 10-20 minutes of gameplay again.

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Posted: 25th May 2011 11:28
entomophobiac@
I wasn't too keen on the tutorial myself, I think the issue I had with the first witcher was the main quest felt like it became secondary to everything else, or it became more broken up. I think what I like about this one is there is a clear focus on the main quest or quests, allowing you to branch off and do side quests more freely.

Quote: "especially since you have to hit f5 to quicksave 24/7 otherwise you will have to do your last 10-20 minutes"


Get ready for more of this

I've made it pretty far into the second chapter and it's only getting better, I agree that the first tutorial bit was a bit furstrating, probably because you'll die more there than anywhere else, the developers said that they were inspired by demon's souls and I think that shows, since I love demons' souls I don't have much of an issue with the idea of dying 10, 15 or 100 times.

The second chapter is very interesting, however depending on your choices in the 1st chapter you may start at a completely different area to me. They're really pushing the idea of choice and I guess that's the only way you can achieve 16 different endings

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Posted: 26th May 2011 05:17
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Posted: 27th May 2011 05:07
Woah a nexus! YO! Thanks Herakles!
I just got to the first village and am having a blast. The 1.1 Witcher update was pure sex. My performance is dramatical increased since release. I recommend downloading it.

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Max

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