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Neuro Fuzzy
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Posted: 1st Jul 2011 23:55 Edited at: 2nd Jul 2011 00:05
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So... I have this crude, unfair benchmarking applet that I'd like people to try. I got and assembled my new comp a few days ago, and wrote this multithreaded application to test out the processor.

I say "crude" because it doesn't have a UI of any sort. Not through command line, editing text files, or through a GUI. I say "unfair" because it's multithreaded with 8 threads. My processor has 4 cores/8 virtual cores, but for other people 8 threads is more detrimental than helpful.

Basically, what it does is render ghostly images that need a lot of computing, and then it outputs the time it took per image to a file.

It says where to download and how to run the application here:
http://www.neurofuzzydev.com/papers/4dmultithreaded.php


output on my new comp:
(sporting an i7 2600k :3)


output on my older 1 yr old laptop: (centrino 2 dual core)


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woah those results turned out perfectly. two cores vs 8 virtual cores = 1/4th the time?


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Posted: 2nd Jul 2011 00:18 Edited at: 2nd Jul 2011 00:20
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wait so your new quadcore PC got faster results than your old dualcore laptop???? how

i am trying it now. on my crappy amd dualcore acer laptop.


OH GOD NO... i killed it before finishing it, my laptop slowed to a crawl

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I would test but I have no windows.

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Quote: "wait so your new quadcore PC got faster results than your old dualcore laptop???? how"


Uh... Newer is often faster?

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Posted: 2nd Jul 2011 01:32 Edited at: 2nd Jul 2011 01:32
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Quote: "[quote]Quote: "wait so your new quadcore PC got faster results than your old dualcore laptop???? how""


Uh... Newer is often faster?
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I think he was being sarcastic.

With my Phenom II X4 [email protected] (quadcore) I got :


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Quote: "Uh... Newer is often faster?"


I think he was being sarcastic:

Quote: "wait so your new quadcore PC got faster results than your old dualcore laptop???? how"




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Ah, It didn't come across that way for me, I guess I'm just not with it today. I apologise.

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I have an AMD Phenom II x4 810 @ 2.6GHz and this is what I got



This is that computer I just recently put together for $400 >_<

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Wait a second. When I ran this I didn't really think about the data that was outputted, but shouldn't the lower the value be better? Or am I just missing some sort of joke or something

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Posted: 2nd Jul 2011 03:01 Edited at: 2nd Jul 2011 03:03
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Quote: "I think he was being sarcastic."

i wansnt being sarcastic, just plain dumb
i feel like a huge dumbass right now i misread the results.

His centrino laptop got around 10000 (10k) results while his quadcore got 2000 (2k) I misread the 10k centrino as 1000 (1k) so i thought the centrino was faster.

its just me and my number dyslexia which i got from working 2 years as a drivetrought cas register operator at mcdonalds.

this is why i dont belong in the geek crud, i end up making a fool of myself.

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Quote: "His centrino laptop got around 10000 (10k) results while his quadcore got 2000 (2k) I misread the centrino as 1000 (1k) so i thought the centrino was faster."

You're not the only one, I just did the same thing! This explains everything!

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Quote: "I would test but I have no windows.
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Posted: 2nd Jul 2011 14:42 Edited at: 2nd Jul 2011 14:43
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Everyone is faster than me

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Not that bad ;3




If i didnt have work open it'd probably be a bit faster meh.


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AMD Athlon 640 X4 @ 3.0Ghz

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On a Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 2.13 GHz. I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of my i5-2500k on Tuesday.

Also, it would run faster if you only had one thread per core.

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Quote: "Also, it would run faster if you only had one thread per core."


How'd you figure that one out?

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I quit early because my CPU hit 79 degrees, and it doesn't help with the normal CPU temperature being 67 degrees

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Athlon X3 @ 3ghz unlocked to Phenom X4 @ 3ghz. Quite obvious the preformance isn't that good as a true quadcore.


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I'm sure it is a true quadcore, but maybe that core was locked for a reason.

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they cant really manufacture true tricore CPUs, its part of the manufacturing process. CPUs are all burned in layers with lasers and ultraviolet and stuff trough microscopic stensils. never knowing how powerful its gonna be. After the cou is done, they test it to see what clock speed its capable of and give it a classification of 2.8ghz, 1.6 ghz etc so the manufacturing procesess for the core will cost the same but for progit, more powerful CPUs are sold for more (well actually i might be wrong but possibly cores that are capable of higher clock speeds are much rarer and have more chance of failure during testing than the lower clock speed since they cant tell how good it is gonna turn out. So when making a tricore they use quadcore platform because its essentially the same thing, but the real difference between a true quadcore and an unlocked core quad is, how much cache memory they add. Tricore Phenom CPUs, get less cache memory (which is very expensive btw). True quadcores have more cache memory to help support all 4 cores. The reason tricore phenoms are made because they are more powerful than a dualcore but are cheaper than quadcore so a good price/power setup made this a popular and affordable CPU which a lot more people are gonna buy.

Its just like russian auto idustry. they make cheap crappy cars and dont even try to do any high tech stuff that will add price to their cars. because they know, that people will buy them, they are cheap to manufacture, anyone can afford one, and people especially lower income (there are plenty of those) or younger generation which dosent have a lot of money will buy a russian car rather than a more expensive and fancy european or american car.
There are more than enough parts for russian cars, and they are very customisable, you can make a drag racer for cheap out of any Lada you come across making them more attractive to younger generation. Last year they even restarted manufacturing an outdated 1970s Lada which was cancelled 5 years ago. turns out that old piece of junk was still in demand, so they restarted it again and people buy them. making a better more expensive car with modern standards will only hurt their business and it has been proven a few times too. like in early 2000s Gaz company hired some of the worlds best car engineers to make a business class sedan Volga 3111. The design of the car was just beautiful, it had everyhting a modern luxury sedan had, it was pretty much a russian equivalent of a mercades or a BMW back then. But the company lost tons of money on it. There wasnt enough demand for it. People who could afford it, kept buying mercades and bmws and the general reputation of russian car industry didnt help either. Manufacturing volga 3111 on the small demand scale was too expensive. (demand was so small, they resorted to only making them for single custom orders) they eventually cancelled the manufacturing of the 3111 and went back to making cheap cars.

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So you're trying to say all CPUs are just randomly made and they don't know what speed it'll come out as before they test it? That sounds pretty silly to me. As complex as those chips are you don't think they have a more precise building process than that?

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 14:45 Edited at: 3rd Jul 2011 15:03
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Well right now methods may be improved to be more persice, but when i was in school learning the stuff, my teacher (who worked in computer industry since the 60s) told us that thats how CPUs were manufactured. It might have been true for pentium4 generation cpus, i dont know if the same applies to i7s and stuff

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 14:49 Edited at: 3rd Jul 2011 14:58
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I hope someone can share some info on this, cause I just can't believe building CPUs is that much guess & check.

On a related note, here's a benchmarking chart of all CPUs.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

The i7-2600K is definitely in the top, and when you consider the price of the other processors around it, it's an amazing bargain.

One last thing about the 2600K. While Newegg is selling it for $315 right now, Microcenter (a major store here) is selling it for only $280. A physical store out-pricing Newegg?!

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I believe it still is true. I'm sure it's only limited within families of processors though.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 15:04 Edited at: 3rd Jul 2011 15:05
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Quote: "I hope someone can share some info on this, cause I just can't believe building CPUs is that much guess & check."


yup its true

http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/from-sand-to-hand-how-a-cpu-is-made-2009079/

i just read this thing here which tells the process of cpu manufacturing and pretty much yes, they have to run each die trough series of tests to determine how good the cpu actually is, so yeah pretty much they dont know what will come out. better cpus are sold as more high end product.
A lot of cpus also come out faulty. I may be wrong but i remember it was something like half of all cpus made will come out defective and are trown out.

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Sounds like the existing manufacturing process of CPUs is a nightmare, but after reading that it's not really a manufacturing flaw like I was thinking. The integrity of the wafer isn't the same across the entire surface during the building process. I always though each die was created separately, not having several cut from the same piece. That was an interesting article to read.

I've also heard where a 5-10% failure rate on manufactured goods like transistors is a common margin in the US, Japanese companies don't accept more than a 1% margin of faulty chips. I think I saw it on a tv show or something.

Quote: "Intel is rumored to have around 95% operational yields on mature processes, which on 45nm processes on 300mm wafers means a tremendous advantage in production with their many fabs. A 95% operational yield means if 500 dies were possible from a single wafer, 475 of them would be usable, and only 25 would be thrown out"


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well prosessors are insanley complex. even today they cant get it perfect. i think cpu manufacturing failure rate is more than 10% i could be wrong tho.

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Quote: "Everyone is faster than me "


Not quite.

Intel Pentium 4 670 3.8 GHz
1 physical core, 2 logical (hyperthreading)

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I got a P4 2.8, didn't know they went up as high as yours. Mine's a prescott core.

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Quote: "I got a P4 2.8, didn't know they went up as high as yours. Mine's a prescott core."


Yep, the 670 was the last of the Prescott cores.

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Ohhhhh! WTH! That took forever. Thank the merciful God above that there are better methods of render than that. I'm almost ashamed to post my stats...

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Wow. That's terrible. I don't know how I code on this thing! I might buy a backup drive, sell my Toshiba, and put that money towards a desktop. Seriously... My CPU wasn't even on the massive benchmark list. WTF!
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If I go pick up my dual socket 5 server from my mom's basement, I'll run your benchmark on that beast!

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Mines an Intel Dual Core 2.4ghz and did about the same as Neuro Fuzzys Dual Core.



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Just tagging on here for time being, will post my results once i restart the pc and get fresh optimal performance rather than most of my 7gb memory full... and loads of stuff open...
but early while im fully loaded results were around the 6000+ mark for several lines... will post specs in next post...

EDIT

PS.
I would love to make one of these myself too

huh? duplicate how?

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What's with the thread bumping man D:

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Intel Core 2 Duo T6670 2.2ghz - Laptop



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hmm this after being heavily used for some time ...

Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q6600
(8M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB)

7GB of slightly mixed sticks but mainly OCZ SLi modules DDR2 6400 800mhz

Sata 2 500 HDD

and a lovely Nvidia GTX 200 core216extreme+ gpu [216 processors instead of the standard 192]

if need any other details just ask

that 6000 was probably because I was checking my email at the end lol but yeah I will be building a new pc in due time.

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Old score:


New score:


Now that's more like it (i5-2500k). Now I'm only losing to Neuro Fuzzy's i7-2600k. Maybe sometime I'll get around to overclocking it, say from 3.3 to 4.5 . Though I might want something other than stock cooling.

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nice! I like seeing all these results.
Now I need to make one that runs on the GPU. Or one that's more graphically appealing.


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