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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 11:18 Edited at: 6th Jul 2011 07:47
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SWEET NEWS GUYS!!!

I hope this website is legit. If it is, we were all worrying for nothing really.

All that public performance stuff actually means a public performance that is being performed by a company to create that copy written material so the company can make the money. In other words, it would only be illegal to post a video of a concert where the recording will be copy written and sold for example. So yes, karaoke and post a video of it! Also, due to that derivative stuff, posting in game footage will be legal.

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Yep. This bill, if passed (all of this only applies in the USA) would make it a felony with serious fines and a possibility of up to 5 years in prison for posting in game footage online. This not only applies to video-game footage, but it means you wouldnt be able to post a video with music in the background, you wouldnt be able to embed a YouTube video, etc. They are trying to pass this bill to stop people from posting in movie footage, TV footage, music, etc to protect them from people illegally posting their copy written content. But they never looked at the video game aspect of this stuff--it's essentially a way for the video game company to get free advertising of their product. To prove video game companies like people posting in game footage, the companies have the right to at any time they want, tell everyone to stop posting in game content, but they never do tell people to stop.

Either way, i think this bill should pass because it will help TV, movie, and music industries as it's intended to, but i believe it should be amended before being passed to allow the posting of in game footage, etc. This website you can go to to get a letter sent to the Government to try to make a difference.

Again, this only applies if you live in the USA. If you dont, you are very very lucky and have nothing to worry about! Otherwise, you may want to take action.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 14:30
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I find it difficult to imagine any video game company being stupid enough to sue someone for posting a video of their game. It's just free advertising...

And look what happened when they tried to stop youtube from hosting songs: they ended up begging them to host them again because it meant more sales.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 14:33
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damn. i better take down my youtube videos if i ever want to return to the states and not get arrested

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I doubt they'd be waiting at the airport for you.

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Diggsey, That's the thing though, the bill takes control out of the company's hands and gives it to the government (who are gonna care a lot less about giving games companies free advertising xD)

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 15:11 Edited at: 3rd Jul 2011 15:13
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Quote: "I doubt they'd be waiting at the airport for you. "


well i dont know, but once when i came back to the states from russia
2 cops in the airport came up to me and started questionling me checking out my passport where do i live, what do, and this was after going trough passport control and security checks. but they they seemed to get distracted by something and all of a sudden gave me back my passport and just randomly walked away without saying a word.

these were just cops. Next time it might be guys in black suits who are all like "can you please come with us sir we have a few questions for you"

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 16:37 Edited at: 3rd Jul 2011 16:39
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The ten strikes thing...Yeah...what a joke. I don't believe you should punish the viewers. And besides, the extent this bill goes to is ridiculous. I'm sorry Dark Basic Dude79 and everyone else who thinks it should pass, but it goes too far.

I was discussing this with some peers, and we read a little through it, and we found out that if someone posted a lip sync or lib dub, or even just had the beat playing and them singing...that would constitute under the bill as well and they could get up to 5 years in prison or a heavy fine for doing exactly what youtube was made for. In fact, if anyone has been visiting YouTube for any length of time, they would know that their slogan used to say this: "YouTube | Broadcast yourself". And if you like singing, and want to show off, then you're doing the very thing the website was created for.

Point 2: People making covers of songs could get penalized and targetted as well. Or just people replaying the song on their own instruments.

Point 3: Music Videos? How do you watch music videos if it's not online? MTV? I think not...MTV isn't about music videos anymore. It's about Jersey Shore.

The list goes on and on. Actually, it can be viewed as ACTA in a disguise.

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Sorry, had to clarify. As discussed in other threads, I am completely for copyright and patent protection. It is something I do believe heavily in. They have the right idea, but are going about it completely wrong.

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such laws are created not because they want to lock up everyone who posts videoame footage. they are created so they will have the possibility to lock you up if they want to but lack evidence against you.

In russia (i am sure other countries too) there are similar laws that noone pays attention to and noone obeys.

for example there is a law making a posession of some file (cant remember the name of the file) is illegal because apperentley its like a treat to national security. The thing is, that illegal file is present in everymicrosoft operating system. so if they get a warrant to search your microsoft PC and find this illegal file you can be charged and imprisoned and it dosent matter how stupid it is, its a law and the law considers posession of this file a criminal offence.

Really, every single citizen in russia has at least something they can be arrested for. i proboly have at least 10 things i can get locked up for. software/movi/game piracy is uncontrollably rampant in russia, my neighbors internet provider has a 100mbps fiberoptic DC++ city-wide file sharing network. an illegal operation backed by the ISP out on the open. more than half of all the media stores in moscow sell pirated content which is very illegal yet the authorities dont seem to care. Once in a while the police will do an anti piracy raid on some of these places, arrest the people in charge, and it will all be on the news, and they even put on a show by crushing a pile of pirated disks with a bulldozer and then people will just continue to sell it. the government just does these big raids once a year. the purpose of these raids isnt really to enforce the law but to rimind people that they are the boss and they own you and have an entire list of offences they can arrest you for, so you would keep your business quiet, pay the right people and avoid giving the authorities a reason to use that list on you.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 17:39 Edited at: 3rd Jul 2011 17:39
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Well, juries in the US are supposed to protect against unjust laws, but it doesn't really work that way. In general juries are instructed to look only at the laws and not about their own feelings of justice, even though such a thing is perfectly legal and was expected when our court system was setup.

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Quote: "Well, juries in the US are supposed to protect against unjust laws"


well same here too. if its your neighbor suing you or if you are involved in some crime which is insignificant on the big scale of things, you can fight fair, win or loose, it depends. but if you piss off some big high up people or the government gets involved you pretty much have 0 hope. they have enough power and influence to get rid of you one way or another.

for example, many government set up cases to demonstrate the laws to the public. for that they need to publicly make an example of someone so people will see just what happens to those who dont behave. If you are the person they decide they want to make an example out of, even if you are completley innocent, they will find a way to make you as guilty as possible.

One of my aquaintances in Bahrain recentley witnessed first hand of when the government makes an example out of someone. Basically this girl her parents are doctors. When the civil unrest erupted there her father, spoke out against the government on some radio station. Her parents also treated injured protesters during the unrest. Then in the midst of all the chaos, her parents suddenley dissapeared and she didnt know anything about them for about 2 weeks. Later she found out her parents are detained, and her father is being tried in front of the military tribunal for treason. Apperentley treating injured anti government activists is considered treason. And the government decided to make an example out of her father for the whole country so he will proboly end up with a long prison sentence when the trials are done. However they released her mom with no charges even tho she can also be held for treason.

in russia such big example court cases arent even trying to make it look a bit legal and just. One of such examples on a very rare occasion managed to get solid proof of his innocence so the process concluded to free theis dude of any charges. Suddenley a group of armed masked men from federal security bust into the court room and take him away somewhere. i dont know what hapened to him eventually but this kind of thing pretty much means,the government says screw you we ARE the law, if we want to arrest him, we will and you cant stop us.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 19:09
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For the "Land of the Free," America's had alot of stuff about banning you guys from doing stuff. First that case on banning games, now banning videos of games, etc?

It'll rip apart 90% of major internet sites. I mean Machinima will become the new Pirate Bay for God's sake.

What is all the fuss about anyway?
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2011 19:18
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Im GLaD you all have the same opinion as me!
Quote: "And besides, the extent this bill goes to is ridiculous. I'm sorry Dark Basic Dude79 and everyone else who thinks it should pass, but it goes too far."
I believe it should pass ONLY after it's amended to not go too far; just so it does the good copywrite stuff but not the video game stuff.

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its quite possible that it will pass. i mean thats how fed reserve was created- like 5 people in congress voted for it while the rest were on vacation and were not notified, or something.

This law is just for creating a legal shortcut for scumbags who want to control the internet.

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The unfortunate thing about 'Internet Law' threads is that they tend to stray into politics ... so try to keep it on topic guys (or at least, don't drift too far).

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Quote: "I believe it should pass ONLY after it's amended to not go too far; just so it does the good copywrite stuff but not the video game stuff."


Most people don't know how hard it actually is to amend the Constitution. It's harder to get rid of laws than it is to create laws. Have you ever seen those weird laws applications, that list odd laws? The ones that are like, you can't keep a goat chained to a street lamp on Sundays after 2:00pm. Those were real laws at one point and they still exist. Sure, you can make the argument that no one enforces them because it's ridiculous, but the fact of the matter is it still exists because it's so hard to amend it.

This should not pass, because of what I said. If they are going that far, they'll be going into every bar on Wednesday night and arresting everyone there for singing and listening to karaoke (Idk how to spell this word...sorry).

So much will be ruined. Parodies, covers. Since when should it be illegal for someone to play the song on their own instrument and upload it? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you on even letting it pass with restrictions. And besides, like it was said earlier. The music industry already tried doing this to YouTube by itself and eventually begged them to put the music back on.

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Quote: "Most people don't know how hard it actually is to amend the Constitution. It's harder to get rid of laws than it is to create laws. Have you ever seen those weird laws applications, that list odd laws? The ones that are like, you can't keep a goat chained to a street lamp on Sundays after 2:00pm. Those were real laws at one point and they still exist. Sure, you can make the argument that no one enforces them because it's ridiculous, but the fact of the matter is it still exists because it's so hard to amend it.

This should not pass, because of what I said. If they are going that far, they'll be going into every bar on Wednesday night and arresting everyone there for singing and listening to karaoke (Idk how to spell this word...sorry).

So much will be ruined. Parodies, covers. Since when should it be illegal for someone to play the song on their own instrument and upload it? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you on even letting it pass with restrictions. And besides, like it was said earlier. The music industry already tried doing this to YouTube by itself and eventually begged them to put the music back on.
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you spelled wrong to: "The destruction of internet"


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Quote: "This should not pass, because of what I said. If they are going that far, they'll be going into every bar on Wednesday night and arresting everyone there for singing and listening to karaoke"


I thought this was about streaming things online not anything else.

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so isnt posting a funny video you made in sourse engine, or showing off your awesome CoD4 MW3 fan made trailer a form of freedom of expression? I mean it isnt illegal to get together with my friends and act out a shaksperian play or something for some audience who want to see us do it. Also when i go to local small time metal shows with not very famous bands, many of them play cover versions of famois songs. Infact there is one streetband i really like which specialises only on cover songs (and a lot of their stuff is better than the original) thats all freedom of expression. Unless ive been sleeping under a rock amature plays and cover songs are actually illegal to be performedin front of large audience without permission of the owners and copyright holders of the plays and music.
I dont even know why i am asking this i know the answer all too well. its because people who get power and money or some gain from it dont care about your freedom of expression. Btw if anyone knows about the thing i said about amature theater plays and cover songs. does anyone know if what i said about them true or not? that its illegal to perform them to a large audience without material owners permission.

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It is, but my point is if they're going this far they might as well go to every bar on Wednesday night =/

Again, I am completely for copyright and patent protection, but not when someone can get arrested for posting a video of them singing the lyrics to a song, or acting out a line from a TV show, or doing an impersonation of an actor in a movie.

Or the viewers viewing the videos.

Copyright does provide a Free Use clause, in which it states that they take it into judgement and there are a couple of factors, the biggest being how it affects the industry and by how much. Can anyone tell me how some 15 year old who is good at playing his guitar, posting a video himself playing Free bird is going to hurt the song's "potential market". I don't think it's going to hurt it at all, in fact it might make it better and could provide a career for this kid if someone important enough sees the video and thinks he has talent.

If you read the link Dark Basic Dude79 posted, it even brings up this point. It's not something just me and my friends arrived at by taking it too far. The thing is just way too broad. Sure, do it where if the song with/without lyrics is posted. Do it with music videos if you want. Do it to the TV shows and movies that are posted and viewed. But don't cover people singing the song themselves. If they suggested something like that I'd be 100% for it.

I wonder how this will affect the trailer industry for a lot of sites as well. If this passes I'll get the 10 strikes in the first week due to the amount of movie trailers I watch (I watch a lot of old trailers because they're funny). This should also ruin tutorial videos. THe video will contain an Operating System that is most likely copyrighted. It will also contain the software in question that they are showing you how to use.

Yeah...if this passes you guys won't see me anymore. Tutorials and trailers are going to put me in jail.

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oh yeah i remember now, the "fair use" clause in the copyright law. that does pose a bit of a problem for those who are trying to push this bill. What are they gonna do about that? as far as i know, "fair use" allows us to post videogame footage on youtube, and perform cover songs and amature plays. And it completley contradicts this law they are gonna push. If fair use stays, this would pretty much render the bill ineffective, but i am not sure which one overpowers which the "fair use" or this law? all that can come out of this are overstretched long confusing court cases and appeals and more cort cases. Its gonna be a whole new story if they remove "fair use" policy. As i said before they are proboly not gonna inforce this law, its so they can take action against seroius copyright infringers more easily and scare the internet population into submission. Its like the government and the internet ate at war. i say Internet should be our government.. or a form of it... i am voting for Internet in the next election. YEAH GO INTERNET YOU CAN DO IT!

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If it was to punish the serious infringers that are uploading the exact copyrighted song/lyrics/show/movie. I am for it. I don't even want to watch music videos on YouTube.

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how lucky i live in sweden. So i can do whatever i want x)

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Quote: "If it was to punish the serious infringers that are uploading the exact copyrighted song/lyrics/show/movie. I am for it. I don't even want to watch music videos on YouTube."


this law isnt to punish them its to make punishing a lot easier by making everyne a target and a suspect.

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Wow, you brought up a good point--you couldnt post a video of Windows, or a software tutorial. Ridiculous!

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I kinda laugh at this, cause judging by most of the reactions, all you guys live in the USA? I mean, if this bill passes, it's not the destruction of the internet, there enough europeans/canadians/asian people uploading tons of stuff for me to watch, and the things I like most from the USA ( freddie etc ) won't be banned by this law. So I think you guys are overreacting the entire destruction of the internet xD.

Don't get me wrong though, if you live in the USA do everything you can to make this law fail. May the force be with you.
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I think gamers are overreacting here. I imagine many game companies will simply add a clause into the ToS that state you can upload videos of their games for certain purposes.

I also assume that the makers of games (such as Rift) where the ability to capture video and upload it youtube happens in game have already given permission by the very fact that it's built into their software.

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i dont live in the states anymore but i still think this law sucks. also i suspect that people coming up with these laws really have no idea how the internet works.

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Quote: "I think gamers are overreacting here. I imagine many game companies will simply add a clause into the ToS that state you can upload videos of their games for certain purposes.

I also assume that the makers of games (such as Rift) where the ability to capture video and upload it youtube happens in game have already given permission by the very fact that it's built into their software."


This is where you're wrong though Thraxas. The entire bill does not say anything about if you obtain permission to upload said content. It simply states that you can not get more than 5 years in prison after your 10 strikes. Viewing a video with copyrighted content will get you 1 strike.

EDIT: Part of my post was ridiculous >_<

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What if you own the games?
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how do you mean shadowdeath?

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If you make games, then post videos of the games you've made.
Trailers, etc.
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If you own the copyright, you should be fine. Here's a copy of the bill.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s978rs/pdf/BILLS-112s978rs.pdf

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Quote: "Viewing a video with copyrighted content will get you 1 strike."


Viewing a video can put you in prison. I doubt it!

Quote: "The entire bill does not say anything about if you obtain permission to upload said content."


Well if I have permission to upload the video from the copyright holders who is going to take to me court and put me in prison? What crime did I commit?

EDIT:
I just looked at the bill Jerico posted. It says "criminal infringement of a copyright"... if I have permission form the creators of the game then I am not criminally infringing on copyright, at least not so far as I can see.

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My question is why are they trying to create these stupid laws? There is like a huge amount of these BS laws being attempted to be passed. Most of them will likely not be passed but what about the ones that get passed?
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Quote: "Well if I have permission to upload the video from the copyright holders who is going to take to me court and put me in prison? What crime did I commit?"


I believe that the government could go after you itself, no matter what the copyright holders say.

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Quote: "I believe that the government could go after you itself, no matter what the copyright holders say."

so its a law that breaks laws?

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Guys, If you have permission from the copyright holder then it's fine. The problem is that not all let's players are gonna be able to get permission to upload their vids.

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"electronic means" does not only fall on the internet. An iPod is an electronic, so are a microphone and speakers. While the internet is more than likely the targeted avenue here, it's not the only method of distribution that will fall under this.

Unfortunately... the bill (at the very end) is wanting to change "unauthorized distribution" to extend "or public performances" without mentioning anything about "electronic means"... so this portion extends beyond even requiring an electronic of any form. Standing up in a public place and singing a copyrighted song would put you on the spot under this bill.


I already sent my 2 cents to the government about this. It needs to fail -- hard -- and get media coverage about how hard it failed, and how retarded the people are that even suggested that this bill be passed.


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Well now all cod,halo,and battlefield fans have something to get rid of besides each other.


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Posted: 5th Jul 2011 07:06
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Quote: "Viewing a video can put you in prison. I doubt it!"

...Child pornography?

Cheesehead for life.
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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 5th Jul 2011 07:08 Edited at: 5th Jul 2011 07:10
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If you get exclusive permission from the company, you can do it. But what are the chances of you emailing Nintendo and getting back permission?????? Not likely.

Quote: "...Child pornography?"
This is funny! And yes, that would put you in jail!

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Plystire
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Posted: 5th Jul 2011 07:10 Edited at: 5th Jul 2011 07:19
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What are the chances of every fan of any company getting permission? Slim to none.

And I'm not about to ask for permission from ANYONE to do karaoke.

[EDIT]

Thought I'd share this to lighten the mood a bit. For whatever reason my friend went and looked up bureaucrat on dictionary.com and found this definition for it:

Quote: "an official who works by fixed routine without exercising intelligent judgement"


Lmao!


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Posted: 5th Jul 2011 08:45
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derp... but that's not the context we're talking about :p

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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 6th Jul 2011 05:23
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Thraxas has has a point. Lol i agree with the definition that Plystire found!

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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 6th Jul 2011 07:34
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SWEET NEWS GUYS!!!

I hope this website is legit. If it is, we were all worrying for nothing really.

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DevilLiger
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Posted: 6th Jul 2011 08:55 Edited at: 6th Jul 2011 08:57
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i am against this bill. that would put many people in trouble. i would go against it. Though i do support against stop watching pirated movies, play pirated games, etc.

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IanM
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Posted: 6th Jul 2011 15:24
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@Dark basic dude79,

I'll see your link, and raise you: http://shoryuken.com/2011/06/29/trolling-the-stream-by-ultradavid

Personally, I'm happy that I'm in the UK and won't be affected by this law ... at least until the lobbying starts ('The UK has weaker laws than the US, so you should change yours to match' type of one-upmanship, which is the way the game is played ... did anyone else notice how fast the 3-strikes idea spread around the world?).

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Aertic
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Posted: 6th Jul 2011 19:27
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Looks like Starcraft 2 in America could be hit massively. WELL PLAYED LADS!
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Zotoaster
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Posted: 6th Jul 2011 20:07
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Soon you'll need a licence for any kind of creativity. You won't be able to take two or more pieces of media and remix them, hell you won't be able to take any two ideas and put them together without both parties who came up with the ideas suing you. And it's this blending of ideas and the ability to make abstractions that lays the foundation for every paradigm of technology, art, politics, etc. Yep, unless everyone stops suing everyone for "copyright", soon enough creativity will be monopolised by large institutions and conglomerates.

I don't know why every normal person has to be compromised because a company might make $2 less. The money isn't as important as the content (not to the most of us I'm guessing).

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