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3 Dimensional Chat / BSP or .X maps?

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QuothTheRaven
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2003 04:36
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I was going to post this in the ultimate BSP thread but it's really about .X maps, not BSP. I was wondering if it would be a good/plausible idea to create good maps in .X? Can .X handle lightmaps? I know I can make .X / .3DS maps with ease, but is .X a good idea for maps? I don't want to create a map with everything lit the same way, I want to create some atmosphere, is BSP really required for this? Or can .X do what I need in terms of atmospheric, interesting level design?

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M00NSHiNE
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2003 16:39
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Just noticed nobody replied to my thread, and your neither. So I'll reply for you

I've decided to drop BSP alltogether...It's to much work to get them implemented, theyre not really working all that well etc

When this VIS portal comes into play after U6, then .x files will be my choice. Dont know about the lightmaps, but I think they are possible, as the Obsidian game thats being developed by GCEclipse uses CShop .x models divided into segments, and the screenshots showed some really atmospheric levels with lightmaps and the like. So yeah, I guess its possible.

The portal will allow very detailed .x models and with Kensupen's BSP style collision code they should be easy to set up collisions.

Im not much of a BSP expert so dont really take my word for it though

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Philip 1337
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2003 19:58
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When I use light maps I type this:
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QuothTheRaven
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2003 23:22
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hmmm...clever idea...but it sounds tricky to impliment. Wouldn't there be a mess of overlapping polygons?

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zircher
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Posted: 24th Oct 2003 03:07
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That seems like mega polygon overkill. There is no difference between an X model and an X landscape. Try the "set normalization on" and "set object light" commands and see if your terrain will be much more reactive to the lights.
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Genesis Rage
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Posted: 24th Oct 2003 06:01
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Quote: "When this VIS portal comes into play after U6"

Quote: "Kensupen's BSP style collision code "


what is this VIS Portal... im extremely new to DB Pro... worked a lot with DB Classic when it first came out... but that was a long time ago...

and the BSP syle code... is this code freeware... im trying to get good sliding collision... but im not having much success

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M00NSHiNE
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Posted: 24th Oct 2003 15:43
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Genesis Rage : The VIS portal is a feature being added to DBPro U6 whereby all polygons that are blocked, say you have a statue but its behind a wall, those hidden polygons (ie the statue) are ignored by the renderer and are therefore not drawn.

ensupens code is free, find it under the CODE SNIPPETS board, as the top sticky post. The very first page, the first post, click the link to download the code and the example exe.... its very impressive

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QuothTheRaven
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Posted: 25th Oct 2003 01:52
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moon, all polygons for any type of object?

And DBP renders all polys on screen if they're behind something?!

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las6
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Posted: 27th Oct 2003 12:38
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to clear things out, it will only Hide objects, not separate polygons out of objects. So if your map would be 1 big object, it wouldn't really help at all.

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Genesis Rage
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but if you made a level like Unreal Engine uses... a simple block-shaped level... then add in static objects for detail... it might work better that way? granted its still showing the rest of the level... but if that level is made up out of floor/ceiling/walls without much detail...?..? mabee...?

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