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Phaelax
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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 02:41
http://www.idroidproject.org/

Pretty neat, my phone now dual boots between iOS and Android. However, Android runs a bit slow and several features don't work (like the camera or internet). So for now, while cool, is kinda useless until they fix the basic phone features. Oh, and no google app store either.

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 03:03
How does it feel to be running a proper OS.


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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 03:24 Edited at: 20th Dec 2011 03:25
Quote: " How does it feel to be running a proper OS."

Almix beat me to it...

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sluggish and featureless! I'll stick with iOS for now until the project develops further. Hopefully, I'll get a iPhone 4 this week and then I can really start playing around with my 3G.

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I've got Weetabix on my Alcatel OT-222 but I'm not running... too tired

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 14:29
Quote: "sluggish and featureless!"


Yup, sounds like Android to me! - I wouldn't hold much hope for that improving soon.

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 15:11
I don't see how Android can be called sluggish and featureless. To me,it is the best fundament of my phone. I own a HTC Wildfire S and Android 2.3.3 works completely smoothly. You basically get something like Windows,a basic operating system,then you need to install some applications onto it. It is almost completely customizable so you can fit it to your needs.

I doubt theres any customization on the iOS.

The one thing I dislike about Android is they just praise it because of Samsung. Honestly,Samsung phones are terrible. I have seen enough cases where either the software from Samsung sucks,or theres just not enough power to run Android on their phones.

Back to the topic,hopefully that port to iOS will soon improve. Also I think that it's sluggish is because the Iphone 3G has some pretty poor hardware. It has a poor 420mhz CPU and only 128mb of RAM which is way under the Android requierments. It runs fluidly on 512mb ram and 600mhz.


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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 15:23
Well I'm not surprised Android works well on your phone. The problem I have with Android, is that the cheaper devices and phones are absolutely choking on it. It was supposed to be a decent OS on practically any device, not a sluggish, convoluted mess. If you have a fast phone, good display, then yes - Android is probably pretty great. If you have a phone that cost £100, or an Android tablet, then Android will run like a bag of spanners. If you have an iOS device, then iOS will run smooth and responsive regardless of anything.

If I buy an Android tablet and it's sluggish, then I'm not entitled to mention that because I never spent 3 times as much?
This is not the OS we were promised is it?
If Android was just a bit faster on these cheap tablets and phones, then I'd have a lot of respect for it. Is my old 2nd gen iTouch really faster than a brand new budget phone?, because that's the impression I get from budget Android devices.

If I was buying a tablet, and I know I need to spend hundreds to get a good experience, then why on earth would I choose anything other than an iPad!. That's my point, Android is not the cheap and efficient option that it makes itself out to be, and frankly the Apple store is reason enough to go for iOS. Or is there some fancy App store for Android that isn't full of crap, that I've somehow missed?

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 15:51
Yes,the problem with Android is also that theres too much crap at the beginning,flashing a custom ROM onto it gains 40-50% speed increase. And another plus is opensource. It is very cheap and easy to create apps then sell them on the store. But as you mentioned,you need to digg a bit through the crap.


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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 16:33 Edited at: 20th Dec 2011 16:35
Quote: "The one thing I dislike about Android is they just praise it because of Samsung. Honestly,Samsung phones are terrible. I have seen enough cases where either the software from Samsung sucks,or theres just not enough power to run Android on their phones."


I love my Samsung Galaxy S][ ... So saying Samsung is poor... try to think about how much my phone costs and perhaps do your research on them before calling them bad or whatever... slander is not a nice trait to have...

But opinoon is fine

yeah but like you said... price...

But... YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR...

So in your logic... you expect a cheap car to perform as well as a pricey car... just because they have an engine that pretty much do the same job... V6 V6... V8 V8... They do fit the same engines in different priced cars... but are aspirated differently... so whag I am trying to say is... try to be more broad minded and apply logic to your life...

I mean nothing negative in mh post so please do not be offended j. anyway... I too often shout out irrationally often... its human nature.

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 19:15
My brother has a Galaxy S,Samsung promised a long time ago that there will be a 2.3.4 upgrade,no upgrade there. His battery has a very short lifespan,like 2 days. So we decided to update it. I downloaded Samsung Kies,plugged the phone into the computer and hey...the app says the device is not supported.

Galaxy S is way overrated. It seems good because I guess those users never tried a phone with WP7 OS.


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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 19:26 Edited at: 20th Dec 2011 19:31
In my opinion, Android's biggest weakness is also it's greatest strength. Open Source software. Every phone manufacturer has their own brand of Android. This creates more compatibility, speed, optimization, and security issues. Phone manufacturers should just build the hardware and put vanilla Android on the devices. Open source is cool and all, but I feel it's probably causing more problems for Android in the long run from that aspect.

As for iOS, it's stable and fast. In turn this makes for high compatibility in their seemingly endless app store, however it lacks in customization which hurts the user friendly aspect. I used an iPhone briefly at my place of work. It worked well as a phone and a web browser, but beyond that everything else felt kinda tacked on. I now use an Android phone at work and I have my home screen comfortably customized to my personal style of work. Everything is at my fingertips. I don't have to scroll through page upon page of applications or folders to load up the software I need and I can save files and documents off the web. Something that iOS sadly and strangely cannot do. Instead of loading up a calendar or weather app, I can just see what I need to see by switching on my homescreen.

overall review -
Android : A personal, friendly user experience. Highly customizable, but we lack some stability and compatibility across the major releases of Android

iOS : Cold, corporate, and methodical, yet more stable and compatible. You don't need to worry about what will or will not work on your model. It usually just does.

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 19:50
I find iOS to be more user-friendly than Android. Not saying that Android is difficult, but iOS does feel quicker to pick up and go initially.

I'm still using an older 3G model iPhone, so even newer iOS version won't run well on it. And 5.0 isn't compatible with my phone at all.

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 19:52 Edited at: 20th Dec 2011 19:53
On the regular topic, kinda cool, Phaelax. I didn't know anyone had tried this

The rest of you: Sorry Van, the cheaper android phones aren't really comparable to iOS because they fit in a different league. You have to compare the top end stuff because it lines up better with the apple devices. We've had this troll session before though... The wider selection of android devices seem to give it a bad name, android alone is great, some of the equipment isn't. I still prefer it

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 20:05
Quote: "I find iOS to be more user-friendly than Android"


I totaly agree on that point but Customisation>Fluidness IMO
I got a Samsung Galaxy note this weekend and in just 4 days I have realised that android is better than iOS in most aspects.

BTW I have had an iPod touch (jailbroken) for 1 year to. Cool with android on an iPhone though
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I could never get used to the one-button approach. Too many combinations to learn. That was my biggest hangup. Android has 4 easy to see and decipher buttons that typically do the same things across all apps.

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With a jailbroken iOS, I believe it can stand up very well against Android in customization, but otherwise you're right.

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 20:39
Quote: " Android has 4 easy to see "

They've actually changed this with ice cream sandvich. They removed the seach () and menu () buttons, and added a task button. But the menu button is now part of most applications it runs, as well as the seach function, which would already be there anyways. I totally agree with you on the button thing anyways though

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 20:40 Edited at: 20th Dec 2011 20:41
Quote: "With a jailbroken iOS, I believe it can stand up very well against Android in customization, but otherwise you're right."


It may be able to but no matter how many addons you install it will still have the same look. Android allso has widgets wich I havn't seen in cydia... Usualy those kinds of apps/addons make the phone lagg a lot. Especialy moving wallpapers wich run smoothly on android.

Quote: "They've actually changed this with ice cream sandvich. They removed the seach () and menu () buttons, and added a task button. But the menu button is now part of most applications it runs, as well as the seach function, which would already be there anyways. I totally agree with you on the button thing anyways though
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I think the samsung galaxy phones have allways been like that...
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Quote: "I think the samsung galaxy phones have allways been like that... "

Really? I heard google made a change that inflicted that on all ice cream stuff... maybe not?

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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 21:00
It has a menu button to the left, a "home" button in the middle and a back button on the right. Now that i rhink of it, the xperia arc has the same setup...
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Posted: 20th Dec 2011 21:05
I just got a Galaxy Nexus over the weekend and after using a friend's iPhone 4 (Not sure if the 4S...) I can honestly say that I'm glad I got the Nexus. With that said, it's nice to see that some iOS users are going in the right direction

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Quote: "It has a menu button to the left, a "home" button in the middle and a back button on the right."

The new one has the back on the left, home in the middle, and task manager on the right A little different, but similar.

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I went from a Droid Incredible to an iPhone 4S, and haven't looked back

It's all personal preference really. I love my iPhone for all sorts of reasons and I use it far more than I ever used the Incredible, but I'm sure there are others that are the same way with Android.
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@Charger... updates are not dependent on Samsung ... they are dependent on your carrier... please figure out where you point your finger first... try this... pick out a finger on youe hand... lick it... and point it at the sky... caliborate your orientation... viola... carrier to blame sorry just in a comic mood hehe but yes like I said its not Samsung at fault... but your network carrier... it could also be regional... btw 2.3.5 is available.

Well according to this site after a quock google...

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CFsQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techonia.com%2Fgalaxy-s-ii-android-2-3-5-update&ei=byDxTtuQIIWb8gO6hdGdAQ&usg=AFQjCNGP4tFrqiOez-_Jhnycv9iriOf5UA&sig2=lDfYSkSm87mBB_XWVjeo3Q

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Posted: 21st Dec 2011 01:04
I love iOS... I don't care about the lack of customisation that Android users constantly boast about... I can't see myself changing to Android unless significant improvements are made.

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Quote: "If you have a phone that cost £100, or an Android tablet, then Android will run like a bag of spanners."


I got my Droid X2 for $100 ( £63.848806 ) and it runs Android without any problems :S.

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I would sacrifice all of the customization abilities of my Android phone if it would make it stable and reliable. Not that I don't like my Android phone, but it is far from perfect, especially over time. Android needs to get their act together, and I'm hoping they will for 4.0.

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Posted: 21st Dec 2011 03:49 Edited at: 21st Dec 2011 03:51
Not intending to flame as this may sounf... but why is everybody pointing the blame on Android... fair enough they may have said it will run like a beaut on all devices or such... but I am sure they meant Properly designed and built devices...

I say this because there are some dirt cheap tablets around and I had one come in a week ago and quite frankly the battery was shot to bits and you can not replace it as its an encased shell and stuff I am guessing screws hidden behind the plastic screen cover edges were (is it ?) Petruding...

So the argument over device pricing is almost irrelavent...

Just my logical and experienced feedback here...

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The tablet I mentioned was a clients that came in asking for a speedup... did a factory reset and identified as soon as you took the power cord out the battery dropped to 1% from 100%... dont bother giving advice on it though as its long gone... and they bought it second hand... I feel for them as they were clearly ripped off.

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Posted: 21st Dec 2011 04:10
Quote: " but no matter how many addons you install it will still have the same look"


Dreamboard can customize the UI in a whole new way, make it look like android.

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@MrValentine: I did check the official forum from Samsung and noone could update higher than 2.3.3. Sorry,I have seen way too many Samsung devices that don't work 100% as they should.


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Quote: "Yup, sounds like Android to me! - I wouldn't hold much hope for that improving soon.
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matter of opinion, i believe

I prefer my android over my moms iphone (trust me, i have been playing around with that one for a while x) )

When I am using iphone i feel like I am a child who needs immesivle huge buttons or else i cant press them nor see them.


I am just wishing this will be ported to android:
http://www.polycount.com/2011/12/19/mara3d-david-girauds-male-anatomy/#more-8489


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Of course it is - did I promise that nobody will disagree with my opinion?, why is my opinion on Android any less valid just because I'm not licking it's back, like a lot of people are.

Android is made out to be this non-elitist OS for lots of different devices, free from the snobbery that half the population hold against Apple. Yet here it is, you can have your smooth and responsive experience that you were promised, but be prepared to pay Apple prices.
Regardless of price, you still have the Android app stores, full of badly written, uncontrolled apps. That doesn't change because you spent £400 on your phone, or £80 on your phone - your still stuck with the same cruddy apps. That is not my opinion, that is a fact, and no matter how sour it tastes, you all have to accept that.

Thing is, I don't own an iPhone, I wouldn't spend that much money on something I might drop in a toilet. If I was buying a decent phone, I'd be looking at Android phones. That's the difference, I haven't bought into either phone platform, I am not emotionally invested in a damn phone OS so my opinion is based on experience of using both platforms. The only people commenting or even having much of an opinion are people who actually want to customise their phone, who want to do things like run emulators, and homebrew... well what about Joe Bloggs who just wants a decent phone, maybe with some casual games and access to social websites and youtube, normal people I mean. Do they care about homebrew and customisation more than having decent apps?

If pricing is irrelevant, then how come it's not irrelevant when Android users mention Apples pricing? - isn't it fair to say that a good Android phone is as expensive as an iPhone? - or a good tablet is expensive no matter who made it. If pricing is irrelevant then what is relevant? - user customisation and freakin homebrew! - I think not.

It's nobodies fault that the Chinese can make an Android tablet for peanuts except Google, they should have taken more control, it's their OS that's looking damn bad on these shoddy devices. People who buy a cheap tablet that barely runs will blame Android, not the faceless manufacturer of the tablet. Apple has a face, and that's why it wouldn't take a dump in the marketplace like some companies would.

Android wins, but only in the eyes of Android users, because iOS users are so herp derp right - their opinion is jaded or something. User friendliness is a sign of weakness apparantly, maybe that's why Apple has done so badly.

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Quote: "Android is made out to be this non-elitist OS for lots of different devices, free from the snobbery that half the population hold against Apple. Yet here it is, you can have your smooth and responsive experience that you were promised, but be prepared to pay Apple prices."


Mate, it's pretty much common for any market Apple appears in. People are just generally anti-Apple to an extent where it breeds a lot of ignorant and snobbery (like the ignorance and snobbery Apple users are accused of).

Personally, I am in favour of iOS, it's well structured and I find it incredible user friendly and I love it. The App store is well done and I like that there's less trash, sure it's easier to publish to an Android device, but that can also be a disadvantage.

I don't think Apple are over priced either, they just don't offer cheap lower quality versions of their products and won't allow other companies to use their OS's to do it either. The Samsung Galaxy Tab and iPad 2 prices are pretty much identical, just by looking at RRPs for their WiFi only models.

These days I will pay more for piece of mind, it's why I own a ThinkPad laptop, despite the fact I could have got a lot more spec for the money I paid for it on a different laptop. I live by the view that paying less for more doesn't mean you've got the better deal.

I pretty much take the view that a product is good when it suits the needs of its user well. Android and iOS have done things in different ways, but that's a GOOD thing, it means there's variety in the market and more choice for the consumer, I'd hate to think there was a monopoly in how an OS should be done.

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Quote: "The one thing I dislike about Android is they just praise it because of Samsung. Honestly,Samsung phones are terrible. I have seen enough cases where either the software from Samsung sucks,or theres just not enough power to run Android on their phones."


>Has entry-level Samsung Galaxy Ace.

>Runs just fine.

In honesty, this whole argument is just stupid. It's like going "Yeah, that BMW V8 is waaay better than what your Fiat 500's got under the bonnet!"

"Well aren't you a clever one, that's probably because the BMW costs at least twice as much."

My Galaxy Ace costs me a third of what I was quoted for a 4S, plus insurance. Sure, not gunna lie, it's not as good. But it's ability for the price it costs me suits me just fine.

iPhones are better, of course. They're also more expensive with it. It all depends how much cash you wanna throw at these things.

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Posted: 22nd Dec 2011 21:38 Edited at: 23rd Dec 2011 08:30
Quote: " But it's ability for the price it costs me suits me just fine.

iPhones are better, of course. They're also more expensive with it. It all depends how much cash you wanna throw at these things.
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Precisely my sentiment there.

I've got a Samsung Tocco Lite + an iPod Touch, still a lot cheaper than owning an iPhone. Now, the Tocco Lite really is a stripped down touch phone, I wouldn't even dare to dream to compare it to anything more than £50, which is what I paid and I think it was worth it. And the £189 I paid for my iPod Touch was worth it. I might replace my phone, but would probably be on a pretty low budget...just not as low as when I bought my Tocco Lite.


[edit]

Just a question, one related to the actual topic. Will the modification in the OP work on an iPod too, I think it'd be kind of a neat way to test out Android without getting a salesman's hopes up. Of course I know it won't perform its best on a modified iPod.

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Quote: "I've got a Samsung Tocco Lite + an iPod Touch, still a lot cheaper than owning an iPhone."


I'm sure the circumstances are different for you but in my case, already paying for a Verizon Wireless smartphone plan, the iPhone comes out to the same price as the iPod Touch when subsidized on a 2-year contract. I know some people really, really hate the contracts but since I don't plan on upgrading on a yearly basis I don't mind, and I've been with Verizon since I got a cell phone and don't plan on changing. But again, that is if you are already paying for cell service and that is based on U.S. prices - I'm not sure what it looks like over there. That said I do actually have an iPod Touch as well, I got it when the 4th generation came out and the iPhone wasn't yet on Verizon, but I've since gotten the 4S.

@Quik:

Quote: "When I am using iphone i feel like I am a child who needs immesivle huge buttons or else i cant press them nor see them.
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To quote yourself:
Quote: "matter of opinion, i believe"


Forgive me but I don't see how the buttons are "immesivle". iOS's buttons seem fairly comparable in size to most of Android's standard UI screens.

Most Android users I've seen have gigantic clock widgets on their screens (myself included when I had the Incredible) - so surely they must feel incredibly childish, not being able to read the tiny time on the status bar!

Now see how ridiculous that sounds? I don't feel childish using iOS at all - I feel like I am using a well designed, polished interface that lets me get to doing what I want to do and get out with a minimal of hassle. The only better one at the moment may be Microsoft's Windows Phone, but I wasn't satisfied with the only hardware available on Verizon (HTC Trophy).
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Quote: "Just my logical and experienced feedback here..."


Wow, don't sell yourself short.

Quote: "iPhones are better, of course. They're also more expensive with it. It all depends how much cash you wanna throw at these things."


Cheapness is not an excuse for it to be unstable, and no one on their programming team said "well we could fix the bugs but it would be more expensive, so let's just release it." They keep on trying to add features to each release of Android without focusing on making it stable and reliable, and that's what bothers me. Support for 1080p video recording? That's great - but how about making the Market app not whitescreen when I try to access it.

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Short?

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Quote: "iPhones are better, of course. They're also more expensive with it. It all depends how much cash you wanna throw at these things."


Not realy I have a samsung galaxy note wich costs the same amount as the iPhone 4S but it has a way better scree, a 1.4 ghz dualcore. Android realy isn't just a cheaper bad version of iOS...
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Quote: "Cheapness is not an excuse for it to be unstable, and no one on their programming team said "well we could fix the bugs but it would be more expensive, so let's just release it." They keep on trying to add features to each release of Android without focusing on making it stable and reliable, and that's what bothers me. Support for 1080p video recording? That's great - but how about making the Market app not whitescreen when I try to access it."


I have none of these issues with my entry-level Samsung Galaxy Ace. In honesty, given that it's cheap as chips and fairly underpowered, (can't even run Flash,) it still reacts nice and swiftly to input.

It has never seized up or crashed on me.

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Posted: 27th Dec 2011 18:39 Edited at: 27th Dec 2011 18:40
Quote: "I'm sure the circumstances are different for you but in my case, already paying for a Verizon Wireless smartphone plan, the iPhone comes out to the same price as the iPod Touch when subsidized on a 2-year contract. I know some people really, really hate the contracts but since I don't plan on upgrading on a yearly basis I don't mind, and I've been with Verizon since I got a cell phone and don't plan on changing. But again, that is if you are already paying for cell service and that is based on U.S. prices - I'm not sure what it looks like over there."


Yeah, I'm one of those who doesn't like going for contract deals, I just go for Pay As You Go, I don't use my phone enough to find myself on the better end of the deal, I barely even pay £10 a month for credit and I get free 500mb of internet on top of that, which is more than enough to check my emails and Facebook.

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Posted: 27th Dec 2011 20:19
Just my $0.02 here...

iOS and Android are both GREAT platforms. It all depends on what you, the consumer, wants from a phone, and how easy you find the UI.

One thing I love about Android are the widgets on your home screens. I love being able to have a clock (not a huge one; just a 2x2 widget) that I can see easily, and having a music widget on another screen so that I can play my songs easily without having to go into the app itself. I don't understand why iOS doesn't have Widgets like this, as Mac OS X was one of the first OS' to implement them...

However, what Android does best, iOS does seem to do a bit better. That's just been my experience. Anytime I've messed with an iPhone, I knew immediately where to go, how to multitask, and the keyboard was so accurate that I found autocorrect to be really redundant. The keyboard alone, honestly, is why I want to switch to an iPhone someday. I still prefer Android right now, but for ease of use + great hardware to boot, the iPhone is my future phone.

Another thing: why do people have to have phones with huge screens (any bigger than 4" and it's reaching tablet realm) with 1.4 dual-core processors and 1+ GB of RAM? Sure, it means you can play all kinds of awesome games, but is it necessary?


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Posted: 27th Dec 2011 20:36 Edited at: 27th Dec 2011 20:37
Quote: "However, what Android does best, iOS does seem to do a bit better. That's just been my experience. Anytime I've messed with an iPhone, I knew immediately where to go, how to multitask, and the keyboard was so accurate that I found autocorrect to be really redundant. The keyboard alone, honestly, is why I want to switch to an iPhone someday. I still prefer Android right now, but for ease of use + great hardware to boot, the iPhone is my future phone."


, but that's one of iOS's biggest flaws, it that you better like what you have, because there is no alternative. Your stuck in Apple's universe with all of there devices.

On-the-other-hand.

In Android you can replace your:

- Homescreen/Launcher
- Keyboard
- Notifications
- Text Messages apps
- Browser
- Default system apps
- Widgets
- Settings
- Phone sections (dial pad, contact list, or whatever)

...and so on.

Android lets you create your own universe

You'll find that all Android phones are one of kind and you can make them you're own, when with Apple, your all exactly the same.


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Posted: 27th Dec 2011 21:06
Quote: "when with Apple, your all exactly the same."


Spoken like a true user who bashes something/states "facts" without ever actually having used it.

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Posted: 27th Dec 2011 23:55
Quote: "Not realy I have a samsung galaxy note wich costs the same amount as the iPhone 4S but it has a way better scree, a 1.4 ghz dualcore"

The Note has a higher resolution but the iPhone has a higher pixel density; 329 PPI vs. 284 PPI. And while the Galaxy has a much larger screen, I'd like a phone not a tablet! (the 4S also has a dual-core cpu)


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In Android you can replace your:

- Homescreen/Launcher
- Keyboard
- Notifications
- Text Messages apps
- Browser
- Default system apps
- Widgets
- Settings
- Phone sections (dial pad, contact list, or whatever)"

And the iPhone can't do that? I use Opera, have custom settings, and can change my homescreen if I wanted to.


What I'd rather see than Android on an iPhone is to have iOS on non-apple phones. I think that'd be cooler.

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Posted: 28th Dec 2011 02:02
Well, I got an android tablet for christmas Unfortunately having to get it replaced because the screen has a column of dead pixels, and since I'm going to be sending it back I'm not going to be rooting it any time soon...

My impression is that it runs fast enough until you run the crap apps that the retailer has forced you to use rather than the standard android ones, at which point everything slows to a crawl...

Anyway, it was quite easy to get it set up to develop on. Just installed the android SDK and the android eclipse plugin and I can run programs I've written on the PC on the tablet at the click of a button, and better yet, I'm not forced to use a mac to do it.

Also, since android is based on linux, once I get my new tablet and have rooted it I can do pretty much anything I could do on a PC, if a little slower.

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Posted: 28th Dec 2011 02:21
Quote: "You'll find that all Android phones are one of kind and you can make them you're own, when with Apple, your all exactly the same."


Bear in mind that can also be a bad thing or just insignificant, it kind of depends on the user in that respect. For example: you'll find almost every laptop or PC you'll buy with Windows 7 will have the same Windows 7 rather than a version customised to be completely different for the specific model. My Windows 7 is no more one of a kind than it is on a HP Laptop or a Dell or a Packard Bell. Arguably in the PC market you're also getting exactly the same.

I could have a customised OS - maybe like I would get between Linux distros, but I could also have an OS I can pick up, know how to use and I can use any device with said OS without having to learn anything new or getting used to a different interface. I could also just be happy with how the device works with no interest in customising it. And with the 3rd party tools available for customising Windows, I wonder how many people find them useful? For me: the important elements for an OS are: functionality, compatibility and ergonomics. For somebody else customisation might be good, and those people are of course more likely to buy an Android over an iOS device.


However, I think the important thing is, consumers have a choice when they choose a product. Generally a sensible consumer will lay out what's better for their uses against a selection of products.

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Posted: 28th Dec 2011 20:46
Quote: " The Note has a higher resolution but the iPhone has a higher pixel density; 329 PPI vs. 284 PPI. And while the Galaxy has a much larger screen, I'd like a phone not a tablet! (the 4S also has a dual-core cpu)"


Have you compared the screens, my Ipod 4g dosn`t stand a chance against my Notes amoLED screen. It has so much clear colors! Allso the 4S only has 1ghz dual core the Note has 1.4 ghz

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