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Posted: 22nd Feb 2012 16:01
I would imagine that would end up being a core part of your story. Perhaps you should decide.

You can read Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress for inspiration.

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I think you would end up with communes, and each commune would have its own set of rules.

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2012 18:30 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2012 18:30
Most likely autonomous anarcho-syndicalist communes.

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surely there would already be a structure in place before the collapse. What was the colony there for? What kind of structure was in place before the collapse. Who lives there? What did the people living there want to do? Who was for, who was against? What happened when it was decided. How was a vote carried out. How many are there?

Also, nobody would normally want to live on venus. The atmosphere is toxic and hundreds of degrees. Acid rains from the sky and the pressure is extreme.

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First off Jerico2day is right, nobody would live on Venus. The atmosphere is like battery acid, and any sunlight that gets through doesn't escape.

But as for the form of government. Well I assume beforehand they would be pretty flexible as it's an open system - resources would be able to go to and from Earth and there wouldn't be too many stringent rules. But afterwards there would need to be structural reform. People would likely start to starve and riot, meanwhile whatever form of governance there is will be trying to control the people whilst also trying to be as efficient as possible in getting and distributing resources. There would likely be a massive clamp-down.

This screams dictatorship. No matter how bad the situation, some people will always want more power, and this is the best time to get it. Maybe you could have two characters, one who tries to keep order and another who wants more power for himself, and play them off against each other. Kinda like Augustus Ceasar and Mark Antony.

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Posted: 23rd Feb 2012 15:28
I dunno, all food would have to be grown locally. Surely there would be a rashion system already in place, and I would think it would turn into a barter system fairly quickly once the primary organization collapses.

I doubt there'd be riots in a close-knit society.

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Posted: 23rd Feb 2012 15:32 Edited at: 23rd Feb 2012 15:33
Maybe the reason people colonized in space to begin with was because of the oppressive government that became a reality in America. Instead of a World War 3 breaking out in America (wouldn't this be more of a civil war since it only takes place in America?) it has more to do with the colonization on Venus and their attempt at freedom from oppresion.

As far as Venus goes:
Quote: "nobody would live on Venus. The atmosphere is like battery acid, and any sunlight that gets through doesn't escape."


Just like America's real Independence back in the day (but with more nukes.)

Otherwise I'd have to agree with Jerico2Day (And I must mention, good sir, seeing Rimmer's smug face with "Forum President" above it makes me laugh and reminds me of Rimmerworld... which is kind of valid in this topic)
Quote: "surely there would already be a structure in place before the collapse"


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Posted: 23rd Feb 2012 15:33 Edited at: 23rd Feb 2012 15:33
@Jerico2day

Well yeah it all depends on how it was organised before. If it worked completely independently of Earth then there would be little change. But if it relied on people back home and then the resources stopped coming through, there would be trouble. Not just food, but medical supplies, experts in various fields such as engineers and doctors (assuming the colony hasn't been around for long enough to have a university etc).

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Posted: 23rd Feb 2012 15:35
The trumpet coming out of Rimmer's ear really clenches it for me

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Posted: 23rd Feb 2012 15:51
That is quite nice.

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No more help or suggestions?
By the way Jerhico did you read my answer?

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Quote: " Which would you prefer for this movie to be a live action or animation?"


Hmm, IDK but I'd go for animation If I don't know you budget.


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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 00:04 Edited at: 8th Mar 2012 00:05
Quote: "Hmm, IDK but I'd go for animation If I don't know you budget."


The budget for the movie is a million dollars.

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Right. And where do you plan on getting a million dollars?
I don't mean to pop your bubble but no-one will put up anywhere near that much for this project. It's not bad, it's just run of the mill. There's nothing particularly original or amazing about the idea - I certainly don't think it wouldn't make a decent film, I just don't think it's particularly viable as an independent project, especially if you're wanting that kind of funding for it.

You need to set yourself more realistic goals. I did media studies at A level and had to produce a short film for that, so I know how easy it is to get swept up with what seems like a great idea, and not realise just how large scale it really is.
Just some friendly advice: If you keep going like that, you'll be setting yourself up for a fall. I'd have a good re-think about the idea if I were you.

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I do have to ask what these projections are based on? I think in any type of media be it writing, making games, writing music, film making and so on it's hard to be able to guaranty anything like that because you don't know if your target audience is definitely going to like it or that it'd attract enough media attention to get people interesting. Whilst people do market their products and even they're not a guaranteed success. I think lots and lots of people out there have the potential for those figures but don't meet that success.

Also, I did get your email, but have been a bit busy to give your text a read, I'll see if I've got time tomorrow.


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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 02:52
WOW, nice budget. Why haven't I heard about this movie except here?


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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 03:28
You got a laugh out of me, that's gold.

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I don't get how it is funny?

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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 06:40
This thread is golden. You should base a movie off of this thread. It would be alot like Gentlemen Broncos. It would be amazing!

(I'm being serious)

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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 12:35 Edited at: 8th Mar 2012 12:37
Yeah, make a movie about a kid who makes 1M$ from making a movie about a kid making 1M$ from making a movie, and then you make 1M$ from your movie. And then ends up in a black hole because of the infinite regressive paradox.

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you can end up like some paroah rule the set of traditions!

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It's good to think ahead, but I think you're way ahead of yourself. It's better to focus on your next project than your sixth project from now.

If you focus on your sixth project, you're taking away the awesomeness of your current one. Every minute you spend on it makes it better

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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 19:05
Quote: "Movie 1: planned 5,000$ budget, predicted end result: 20,000$
Movie 2: planned 7,000$ budget, predicted end result: 100,000$
Movie 3: planned 12,000$ budget, predicted end result: 100,00$
Movie 4: planned 75,000$ budget, predicted end result: 500,000$
Movie 5: planned 200,000$ budget, predicted end result: 1,000,000$
Movie 6: planned 1,000,000$ budget:The movie I'm talking about."


You seem to be under the misapprehension that there's a definite, linear correlation between budget and profit.



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Benjamin has an excellent point. It will be difficult to make much off your first couple movies. You will need to offer it for free most likely and profit from adds most likely. Also you need to prove yourself as a competent, um, well everything I guess.

Maybe we should talk more about the first movie? With a small budget, it needs to be something that you can't see somewhere else, instead of it being something you can see anywhere else, just done better, because it won't be better than most other films considering your budget.


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oh, right, why didn't I notice that was you?

Well those students clearly didn't major in engineering.
But ya that's not a bad theme except I'd say that high school students should have done that, and, well, for me, its not really something new in anyway.

I mean you pretty much are trading your soul and life away by taking most (illegal)drugs, and that doesn't even include the price of buying the drugs in the first place.

However, your idea is more explicit than this. So, that idea of contemplating whether or not its worth it to sell your soul for drugs sounds like a good way to start a gospel/anti-drug video.

So, ya those are my thoughts. I am not saying that the idea for the film isn't good. In fact, it is quite good, given the average audience. The average audience would say, "hmm, OK this is a fake reality with its own rules and I'll put myself in this world to enjoy the film.

Others might say, "This is an extension of our reality and therefore isn't really interesting because this thing happens all the time."

I'd say that only at most 10% of people would look at it in the latter manner, and most of those 10% wouldn't even bother to begin to watch the film because it isn't in their preferred genre.


So, let me know what you think of that.


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Quote: "I really don't care about the 10 percent because the 10 percent is just little children and extremist Christian Moms."


Yes, that is basically what I was saying.

Oh, something you might want to keep in mind is that when people see overly obvious dumb decisions, it alienates them from the film.

Horror movies tend make this mistake most frequently.


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well, as a note of the trend, in scary movie x (not sure which), when a victim is running from the killer, she comes across a fork in the path she is running down. At the fork there are 2 signs (one for each possible path), one that says "safety" and another that says "death". The victim stopped briefly and then ran down the path labeled "death".(A joke in this case based off the trend for characters in these movies to make horribly dumb decisions.)

I'll get you more examples hopefully, but a great place to find them would be in either cinemassacre or nostalgia critic reviews.

Here is Eddie Izzard on horror movies.

Skip to about 6:20 or 7:00 to see the parts I'm talking about.


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"The Demon with a monocle"
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Well that would be stupid if it was in my movie.

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You wanted a sophisticated demon lol, why not give him a monocle?
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What does a drawing of this guy have to do with a movie? Even if it's animated you already drew him once before, so you don't need to draw him again. If it's a movie with actors you don't draw the faces, you wouldn't know that you could get an actor with that face.

It's hard to give you any real help, because you don't have the basics.

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Sorry man, It just doesn't seem like you have the gist of making a movie. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm a better director but I've worked in making very cinematic YouTube videos before and it's definitely more than what you have going here.
If you want to at least gain hype, then make a very dramatic trailer containing the theme of your movie, and not drawings either. Get an at least halfway talented artist to make it for you, someone that can capture the audience and reel them in. I'd suggest gaining that budget that you plan on for this THEN starting. The drawings are all fine and dandy but you shouldn't count them as real work, because no filming or real planning has actually been done.
Of course, best of luck to you anyways and I hope this works out!

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