Quote: "You mean a sort of insurance union? Good idea, they probably already exist."
No, I don't mean an insurance union. I mean my own personal accounts that are for my own use. If I never need them my beneficiary gets the money in them. If I never use all the money in them, I get it back (say if I never used my unemployment account and retired, I'd get the money in that account). Or if I saved enough to retire on by reaching 35, I could retire. Insurance spreads risk among all involved. I don't need to be paying for someone else's lack of work ethic or misfortune, and they don't need to pay for mine.
Quote: "Did you know painting is also evil? This is one of Adolf Hitler's:"
What? Please be more specific so I don't address your comment in the incorrect context.
Quote: "Your government has every right to make you pay insurance for your old age pension..."
Really? They do? Could you please point out the Article and Section of the US Constitution and/or California Constitution which gives said gov'ts ANY rights at all, let alone rights to force me to pay for my own insurance or the insurance of others?
Quote: "otherwise you would most likely have pissed it against the wall years before your eligible to collect it and then you will want the government, the one you wholeheartedly despise trying to make you save for the future, support you."
I may have pissed away the money in my early 20s, but now not so much. Also, I don't want anything to do with gov't providing me with material things like health care or food. What people who want the gov't to provide these things fail to see is it comes with strings attached. They only see "the good" side of the deal.
Quote: "you been believing the BS spouted by those who don't know what they are talking about or they do but just see it a way to convince the ignorant they are facing something unconstitutional as you put it"
Again, could you please quote the Article and Section of the US or California Constitutions which grant gov't this power?
Quote: "but overall it works real well, otherwise you wouldn't have it still going on in Europe for all this time"
Yeah, and look at where Europe is headed. Shortly to be followed by the US. It's no coincidence that the economic decline of both follows almost a century of these policies. You can blame the police actions in the Middle East if you want (and I agree to a small extent), but social spending exceeds military spending here in the US. If you think it works so well in Europe, then you are more than welcome to stay (or move if you aren't already there) there and leave us "backward" Americans to our own devices. I don't want myself or the US to tell your country what it should or shouldn't do, and don't care much for you doing the same. That's in a friendly tone, not adversarial at all. This is a discussion, not argument
Quote: "unfortunate that a global superpower with such wealth cant put its citizens care first"
To say that assumes that all the wealth in the US belongs to gov't, not individuals and companies. The only places that construct exists are communist nations.
Ah, forgot one thing. If all of these things are such splendid ideas, then why do they have to be mandatory? If they are so great, why must they be implemented through gov't instead of something like I described earlier?
Sadly, I sense a threadlock and maybe some slaps coming to myself and/or others.
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