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Geek Culture / Commodore 64 turns 30

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Nickydude
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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 14:24
Commodore 64 turns 30: What do today's kids make of it?

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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 16:28
You can't show it to kids, that's just too ambitious. Yeah, it was great, now it's dead as a dodo. Memories can't be passed to a new generation.

But for me Delta, and Elite were the best games on the C64. Rob Hubbard was the best musician. I was inspired to make music, I was inspired to make games, but the art packages were still quite poor.

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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 16:30
Quote: " Memories can't be passed to a new generation.
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Ohoohho....



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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 16:31
It's like those guys that talk about Elvis Presley all of the time.. give up.

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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 16:35
Oh my god youre being silly

I love a lot of stuff from the "old generation", i would quite frankly even play that given the chance and probably enjoy it.

saying "Memories can't be passed to a new generation" is quite frankly, bullocks.



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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 16:37 Edited at: 1st Aug 2012 16:38
Quote: "saying "Memories can't be passed to a new generation" is quite frankly, bullocks."


It's scientifically, and psychologically accurate. You have a chart of peak moments in history. To the day they happened they were peaks. But to a PS1+ generation they are drops.

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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 16:58
They can, but not in their current form. One of the best 8-bit games ever, and indeed one of the best C64 games was Bruce Lee - I did a re-imagination of it, based on memory and nostalgia, rather than trying to make an exact copy. My nephews at the time were 5 and 7, and they loved it. They wouldn't love the old C64 version, they don't have the same focus that we had to have back then, there is no way on earth that they could play through the original game. I did though, we all did, and the original Bruce Lee game was damn tricky. The graphics were good enough that we could fill in the blanks ourselves, and we did, but show anyone those graphics these days and people tend to recoil in horror. I think the C64's unfortunate pixel shape has left it looking a bit shabby by todays standards. The colour palette was pretty horrible too. Compared to say, the NES, people are a lot less forgiving of the C64's visuals.

Anyway, I found that my nephews really liked the gameplay and flow of the game, they especially liked bullying the green dude, just like I did way back then. Kids still appreciate the same things we did, but they are used to things looking much better than we had to endure.

I had an art package that used the joystick, yet I didn't mind at all - I'd happily doodle away, I knew about mice, but they always seemed to be things that total tech-heads had, not for everyone. In fact, when I first got an AtariST, the mouse died after a week or so, and I remember spending a good couple of hours, drawing Haggar from Final Fight, pixel perfect, using a joystick and Neochrome - on the ST you could plug the joystick into the mouse port, and move the mouse pointer a pixel at a time. I tell you, I must have had a lot of patience back then.

I really liked the C64 though, especially SEUCK, that was about the best thing ever when I got that, able to write games with proper sprites and sound effects and all that stuff. I kinda wish I was a bit older when I had the C64, like old enough to learn assembly language and SID programming and all that cool stuff. I still play the odd C64 game, on this emulator I have for the iPad, I plug it into an iCade joystick, and have a few go's on Wizball or Bruce Lee, Uridium, IK etc... it's like going back in time 30 years .

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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 17:27
I didn't grow up with C64s and ZX Spectrums, I grew up (just) with the SNES and then the N64, but I still think this is a great computer - I'd love to own one! I think that's the same point Quik is making.

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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 18:30
and to this thing:

Quote: "It's like those guys that talk about Elvis Presley all of the time.. give up.
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I love elvis, he did some amazing music
Quote: "Anyway, I found that my nephews really liked the gameplay and flow of the game, they especially liked bullying the green dude, just like I did way back then. Kids still appreciate the same things we did, but they are used to things looking much better than we had to endure."


Both yes and no, i have a cousin who is quite young (around 8-12, not sure...) who is a hardcore mario fan - new or old games.



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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 18:34 Edited at: 1st Aug 2012 18:36
Anyway nothing wrong with the games. I still work on C64 game updates. I still want to write Delta. I fact I still work on Speccy updates as well.

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Posted: 1st Aug 2012 18:53 Edited at: 1st Aug 2012 18:55
I still have a C-64, C-128 and SX64 (built in 3 1/2 inch monitor and 5 1/4 inch floppy). There are still some great games that I love to this day. I go through spells with Hardball and Arcticfox occasionally. I use the C64 Forever emulator now though which works wonderfully.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2012 02:00
C64 underneath my bed - Fixed it up a bit and it's working fine. All I need are cassette for it. I got the cassette reader in its box too.
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Posted: 2nd Aug 2012 02:29
We still have our C-64 from back in 1984, along with two Commodore 1541 Floppy Drives and a Commodore 1530 Datasette. It gets played regularly when we want to take a break from our other work. Amazes us how the diskettes and cassettes still work after all this time. Some of our friends kids get a kick out of the "computer from the past", but they do enjoy it just the same.


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2012 05:24
5 1/4 inch floppy drives, classics they were... I know someone who took a game back on one of those complaining it wasn't working anymore. The shop owner asked him if he had it with him. He pulled it out of his wallet and unfolded it...

I've been through through quite a few of those 8-bit machines.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2012 10:29 Edited at: 2nd Aug 2012 10:31
Quote: "I tell you, I must have had a lot of patience back then."


Ever played with a Game Shark on the PSOne and your favourite games were Final Fantasy VII and Tactics?

Now that too was patience lol

I recall some old machines coming through my view and man, I remember the Atari 2600 I think, we used to play the tape to load, go over to the local Chippy [English Fish and Chips Shop - Those Chunky French Fries to anybody outside the UK] and come back and still have 5 minutes to spare before it was fully loaded... ahhhh memories indeed!

What we call Sunday markets here in the UK are awash with classic consoles and games and I will speak to a local shop owner who has a massive stockpile of ancient consoles for CHEAP! but the games are high priced to balance... if I can take some pictures of their shop and showcase them here and maybe link to a website if they have one... I will! [Let me know if you want me to give it a shot... - the store is based here in Manchester in the UK]

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2012 00:13
Quote: "The shop owner asked him if he had it with him. He pulled it out of his wallet and unfolded it..."

lmao!

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