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Geek Culture / Ouya to be sold at GameStop

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JLMoondog
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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 04:44 Edited at: 7th Sep 2012 04:46
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This is great news for AppGameKit users and future FE users if I'm to understand correctly!

There's roughly 12 GS stores in my immediate area alone.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 12:22
That's really cool. If it's at GameStop I might pick one up.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 12:54
Now GAME needs to sell these in the UK. Though it is cool these will be in the shops and hopefully it'll mean these will have some degree of success. It'd be awesome to develop for it.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 14:22
whats the point in this? why not just develop a game on the PC, everyone has one of those, why develop for this?


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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 16:18 Edited at: 7th Sep 2012 16:21
Some people are console gamers and prefer to stick a console into their TV rather use their PC. I am a console gamer, I do play some PC games and have some indie titles on my PC, but I also play on my 360 and play indie games on there. I would probably buy one of these because it's a cheap console and I can see there potentially being good games on there. Also, I wouldn't mind developing for it, but as a console and indie gamer it does appeal to me as a consumer. Can't say for certain that there WILL be good games on there, but if it kicks off successfully then I am sure developers will direct their attention to it and develop good games. It has some people's attention, so hopefully it'll have a good launch but we shall see.

With something like AppGameKit it wouldn't be that difficult to develop for both.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 18:23
Quote: "whats the point in this? why not just develop a game on the PC, everyone has one of those, why develop for this?"


Out of all the people I know, about 95% prefer gaming on a console, and I do too. With a console, you don't get as many unexpected slow-downs as you would with a PC if, say, your anti-virus decided to start a scan in the background.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 18:36 Edited at: 7th Sep 2012 18:36
Quote: "Out of all the people I know, about 95% prefer gaming on a console, and I do too. With a console, you don't get as many unexpected slow-downs as you would with a PC if, say, your anti-virus decided to start a scan in the background."


Too bad my pc gives better graphics and performance than an xbox does (though I'll give you the unexpected slowdown on rare occasions)

That said, I do most of my "console" gaming from a PC connected to my TV. Shall we call the OUYA a computer just to make everyone happy (it is afterall, a computer by definition).

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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 18:37
Quote: "With a console, you don't get as many unexpected slow-downs as you would with a PC i"


I experience this more with a console with modern games, than with a PC (Dark souls -> xbox, Silent hill downpour -> xbox)

As a matter of fact, I prefer PC because it does have SO much more capabilities than a console, AND I can max out as much as I feel I can, and thus adjusting say, if I get lag, I can turn down AA or shadows and not having to give up good textures etc. Cant do that on a Console can I?

I just find it clunky to turn on my console and play, when I already have a perfectly good PC running.



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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 22:54 Edited at: 7th Sep 2012 22:55
I anticipate great sales! Mainly from people mistaking it for a Nintendo console.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 02:01
I myself enjoy the PC more then consoles. I always feel that I have more control over my game and it always looks better graphic wise.

But the 'big deal' here is that with Ouya sold in stores it gives developers an opportunity to get their game out to a larger crowd of consumers.

This is especially good news for AppGameKit and FE user's as in theory they'll be compatible straight out of the box. I know Rick mention he ordered one so he could test it. Since this is an Android platform, there won't be much work involved and since AppGameKit can be compiled to multiple platforms then why not get an Ouya version out?

I'm excited.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 02:09
Quote: "Too bad my pc gives better graphics and performance than an xbox does"


I would hope so.. the 360 hardware came out 7 years ago already.


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Quote: "the 360 hardware came out 7 years ago already."


We're all going to be shocked at how much our graphics suck when the next gen consoles are released.


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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 21:39
I'm running Intel GMA, I won't be shocked...I already know how much my graphics suck.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 21:53
Sweet! Got a store where I live. I have already preordered mine on Kickstarter. But if I want extra controllers or if my friends want to buy one then we know where to go

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Quote: "I'm running Intel GMA, I won't be shocked...I already know how much my graphics suck."


That's what my laptop from 2009 has. It can't even hardly run Minecraft.

Quote: " "Too bad my pc gives better graphics and performance than an xbox does"

I would hope so.. the 360 hardware came out 7 years ago already."


Yeah, saying a PC gives better performance than a 7 year old console is kind of a moot point here.
However, that being said, I still know most people like to game on their consoles, instead of their computers. It's just a fact I've observed over time.

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Personaly I prefer PC gaming before consoles, I like the feeling of a mouse and keyboard for games. Actually, when i played Halo reach with a couple of friends (the only game worth owing a console for ) I noticed that im better at aiming with touchscreens than I am with controllers
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Not to stay off topic but I prefer console gaming over PC any time. Something as simple as installing a game on a PC has turned into days and days and days and hours and hours of not being able to get a game to even run. With a console, pop a disc in and play. I lost count a thousand games ago with how many times I've had problems just installing a game... And that doesn't include the million times I've had problems with random errors.

Console gaming is far easier and that's why it appeals to many.

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Posted: 9th Sep 2012 14:38
Sweet! Hopefully they will start selling them at EB Games in Australia.

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Quote: "Something as simple as installing a game on a PC has turned into days and days and days and hours and hours of not being able to get a game to even run."


what games do you play...
I know Max payne 3 was a pain to get to start but..



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Posted: 9th Sep 2012 16:30
Quote: "Something as simple as installing a game on a PC has turned into days and days and days and hours and hours of not being able to get a game to even run."


Most of my games install pretty quick. Hell, I just downloaded, installed and completed Opposing Force inside six hours.
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Quote: "Most of my games install pretty quick."


Maybe he's factoring in download, mount and crack time.


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Posted: 9th Sep 2012 17:18
Quote: "Most of my games install pretty quick. Hell, I just downloaded, installed and completed Opposing Force inside six hours. "


The twist is, it only took you 10 minutes to complete and it actually took 5 hours and 50 minutes to install.

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Posted: 9th Sep 2012 18:19
Oh yeah, all this talk about games getting shorter than they used to be.
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The main problem with consoles IMO is that they bring down the quality of PC games. A realy good example of that is BF3. As a lot of games, it was developed primarily for consoles, and therefore EA/dice removed a lot of features that just wouldn't work on consoles (Commander mode ect.)
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Well, some games are nice to play on a console and a big TV while other games are best to play on a PC.


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Posted: 9th Sep 2012 23:09
Of course, and one other major advantage of consoles is splitscreen playing. Playing halo or COD with friends in the same couch is awesome. Sadly I havn't done that in a while :/
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It doesn't have to be split screen. But yeah, playing with your friends is usually better on a console, unless you are playing in a LAN or online that is.


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Quote: "Of course, and one other major advantage of consoles is splitscreen playing."


Which is getting less and less common... more and more common with playing online



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Quote: "The main problem with consoles IMO is that they bring down the quality of PC games. A realy good example of that is BF3. As a lot of games, it was developed primarily for consoles, and therefore EA/dice removed a lot of features that just wouldn't work on consoles (Commander mode ect.)"


It's funny you say that, because they made a big deal about BF3 being better on the PC. From what I understand Dice refused to incorporate commander mode for gameplay reasons, nothing about console controls (and I don't see why commander mode would have been impossible on a console at any rate).

Now, a lot of games these days are designed for console first and then 'ported', more or less, to the PC. But this is because the console market is bigger, and people usually poo-poo that logic because they think it is all about greed. But there really is a reason the console market is bigger.
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The mouse is the best input device ever invented. The keyboard, on the other hand, is crap: it's just a clunky switchboard.

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If someone manages to invent a controller with as many keys as a keyboard, and make it comfy, I might switch ; )



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Quote: "what games do you play..."

About 45 different games installed. And honestly I really don't care how many people here don't have the same problem I do because I know just as many others who do have the same problems with something as simple as installing a game. That's great that none of you have installation problems, I wish I could say the same. Unfortunately I can't, and neither can just about everyone else I personally know who plays on PC... And because so, console gaming will always be easier.

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I have 157 games on steam, whenever I feel like playing on of them, I press "install game", wait a 10-15 minutes, and play it..



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Posted: 10th Sep 2012 12:31
Quote: "I have 157 games on steam, whenever I feel like playing on of them, I press "install game", wait a 10-15 minutes, and play it.."


I am envious of your internet connection. I had to wait 4/5 hours because Dungeon Defenders wanted to do a big update after not having updated it for sooo long. I just wanted to jump in and have a match with a friend.


Even then, I suppose it's 10-15 minutes longer than it takes for me to load up Mass Effect 3 on my 360.

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Posted: 10th Sep 2012 13:23
30min average might be more like it
unless we're talking max payne 3... as it took about 4 hours to download and play >_<'

Quote: "Even then, I suppose it's 10-15 minutes longer than it takes for me to load up Mass Effect 3 on my 360."

If its already installed, i press a button and play, less of a hassle than handling with cd/dvds imo x)



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@Redneck Rambo

I sense that you are an XBox gamer.

I once tried to play Bioshock on PS3. It installed for about 20 minutes...then updated itself over PSN via my woeful wi-fi connection for about 15 minutes...then it opened up the game and sat loading itself for...well, I dunno. I got bored and played Red Faction: Guerilla on my XBox while it was doing that.
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Is it just me who gets thrilled by spending hours fixing a game..?

Like I did with Max payne 3, it didnt start, spent a week in total fixing it, ofc, after 3 days i was boored but.. still
and then when I got it to work I was immesivly happy x)



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That was one of the things I didn't like about the PS3, it pretty much pushes you to install your games, which to my mind is silly, because I've always loved just sticking the disk in an playing.

Thankfully I am an XBox gamer and it's optional for me.

Quote: "If its already installed, i press a button and play, less of a hassle than handling with cd/dvds imo x)"


That's fair enough and I sometimes enjoy that luxury on the PC as well. The only problem I have with it is that these games take up HDD space and it can sometimes be a lot. I think to have all of my games installed would be a waste of Hard Drive space, so if, say, I thought, "I fancy playing Crysis as I've not played it for a while", chances are I would have uninstalled it and would have to wait for it to download again. For the CD version, I'd have to stick it in and install again (and use the disk to play anyway). For Crysis 2 (because I got it for 360) I can just grab it, stick it in an play.

Another advantage of console games is that I can trade them in. GAME no longer lets you trade in PC games, places that do will only accept anything that doesn't have DRM. I could trade in something like Spore and as far as I am aware there is no trading in system on Steam. I actually use GAME's trade in service quite frequently. Obviously this wouldn't be relevant to the Ouya console, because chance are, it'll use a webstore.

So I think there are disadvantages and advantages here and reasons for and reasons against. I tend to switch between PC and 360 anyway. PC tends to be where I play MMOs and Indie games, my console is where I tend to play AAA titles.

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Quote: "Another advantage of console games is that I can trade them in."


I can see that being a thing, although I wouldnt for the life of me do that.. Let's just say I'm a collector

And I dont play ANYTHING on console that requires aimning, except Silent hill.. But I hardly ever use guns there so, I only play fighting, driving etc. If it requires aiming, on a gamepad I'm screwed.

Overall: I grew up with mouse and keyboard as main gaming platform, I dont think anything can change that for me. when I was a kid, there were hardly any aiming games - I played Zelda, mario etc on consoles. with the exception of that 007 game on N64, I never touched FPS games on consoles.


I just cant deal with aiming on gamepads >_<' impossible...

and i'm a graphic nerd, I NEED MY GOOD GRAPHICS (hence PC wins there)

But, playing super smash bros on a PC? nah, gimme my console, and a few friends ; )



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Posted: 10th Sep 2012 14:51
I always used to prefer FPS on a mouse, but I ended up learning to do it on a gamepad and now my aiming with a mouse sucks.

The odd thing is, during the PS1 and PS2 eras I was a bigger PC gamer, hence most of the titles I have for my PC are old games. Currenly installed: Might and Magic VII, Summoner, Age of Empires 1, Unreal Tournament 2003 (seems odd now to think of it as old), Broken Sword 2, Beneath a Steel Sky, Final Fantasy VIII. Now they were all great games. I think Summoner was probably the most underrated of the lot, it was fantastic, yet I never hear mention of it. I don't know if it's because the PS2 version was inferior or if people just never got into it.

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Quote: "Another advantage of console games is that I can trade them in."


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Quote: "It's funny you say that, because they made a big deal about BF3 being better on the PC."

They said it would be, but 1 week after the release Dice/EA anounced that mid development, they had switched the primrary platform to PS3 instead of PC. And yet the PS3 had major input lag for 3 months after the release . The graphics are better though.


Quote: " From what I understand Dice refused to incorporate commander mode for gameplay reasons, nothing about console controls (and I don't see why commander mode would have been impossible on a console at any rate).

Now, a lot of games these days are designed for console first and then 'ported', more or less, to the PC. But this is because the console market is bigger, and people usually poo-poo that logic because they think it is all about greed. But there really is a reason the console market is bigger."


Sadly that's the case. I wish sony/MS would make a new generation of consoles though, that 7 years old hardware kind of brings the graphical quality for a lot of games down...

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