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Cliff Mellangard 3DEGS
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Posted: 13th Oct 2012 19:54 Edited at: 13th Oct 2012 20:12
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Whe i try to get my certificate i get these errors at comodo.

error couldt find member.

error object is null or undefined.

error item by name is null or undefined.

I have created an draft for super b boy and almost tryed anything?

i have one name for user name and one name for account and one name for organisation is this an problem?

I get an message also that an active x controller have bin stopped from running.
But cant find where to disable this in explorer?

Edited problem solved ................

How do I get a code signing certificate for my AppUp store entry?

Contestants chosen as Round 1 winners will be provided with a URL that allows them to get a certificate for free, compliments of Intel. You can use the certificates for anything you want.

Please note: There is currently an issue with the redirection from the Intel pages. ArchieCoder writes "When I was redirected from the Intel AppUp website to the Comodo form page, I was getting these 3 errors: Member not found, Unable to get property ‘Count’ of undefined or null reference, Unable to get property ‘ItemByName’ of undefined or null reference." ArchieCoder contines that he "put an "s" after http (so https://...) and it worked".

Took some time to find the info that there is something wrong at comodo and not me?

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Posted: 13th Oct 2012 20:23
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found this it might work for you cliff. I still havent tried

Follow-up:

This morning, I had to fight with the technical support person. Here is why: when I was redirected from the Intel AppUp website to the Comodo form page, I was getting these 3 errors: Member not found, Unable to get property ‘Count’ of undefined or null reference, Unable to get property ‘ItemByName’ of undefined or null reference.

The support person kept saying to contact Intel because my account was not found. I told him many times that the "Member not found" is not related to "user not found".

Anyway, it suggested me to put an "s" after http (so https://...) and it worked. In conclusion, there is a bug with the redirection from the Intel website.

Hope it helps!
ArchieCoder

Another post that might help

When you try to get a free certificate from Comodo through the IDZ, you will be redirected to the website Comodo.com
You will get nowhere on this website UNLESS you add it to your Trusted Zones in Internet Explorer. It has to run Active X stuff on your computer that IE will not allow, unless it is in your trusted zone. Even then IE will warn you every time the Active X fires up. You have to allow the Active X every time, if you want your application to succeed!
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I found you note at codeprojects

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Wath a freaking mess to get a certificate

Be sure to have a organisation name that you can show an phone bill with the name and same adress on to them.

I used another name for my organisation then my actuall name and got turned down and had to reaply with my name as organisation.

See if it goes thru now?

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I haven't pursued the certificate yet, but can someone confirm that it is a free certificate if you are selected to go through round 1?
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yes, according to everything I've read it's free if you sign up through Intel Appup,

I'm just getting the documentation together to send them.

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Yes it's free and much easier if you use your own name rather than the name of a company.


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The messages seem to be "normal", I got them too. There is a huge giveaway though, IE tells you that an ActiveX has been blocked.

Set all your ActiveX security settings to "Prompt" and everything works just fine.

The reason why it is so difficult with regard to identification etc, is that otherwise every hacker and his mother would be getting certificates, and the whole system of verified trust would collapse.

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its a piece of cake if you do wath bax writes and dont use a company name.

I have mine now!

Next step is to figure out to compile the installer for appup??

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Follow the basics of my guide here to create a valid msi: AppUp Developers guide

I would suggest using mr_d's msi maker: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=185508&b=8&p=0

I haven't tried it for an AppGameKit app but it should work I believe...


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do i still nead the appup sdk for agk apps?
I dont have an c+++ compiler and not much space on my harddrive.

I have planned to use the last 2 weeks to get it right with the installer.

But would be a bummer if it is the part that fails on me

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No, as far as I'm aware they lifted the requirement to use the SDK and currently there is no method of integrating it in Tier 1 without editing the interpreter.

I need to check at some point.


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Quote: "No, as far as I'm aware they lifted the requirement to use the SDK and currently there is no method of integrating it in Tier 1 without editing the interpreter.

I need to check at some point."

Would be handy with an simple agk specific guide on using mr ds free tool . (wink! wink! bax)

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Quote: "Would be handy with an simple agk specific guide on using mr ds free tool"

That would be great, thanks for volunteering Cliff!


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Sorry for highjacking your thread . But in the comodo webiste, there is an option to select "individual" and "organisation". Basicaly I don't have an organisation, so im guessing I should chose individual.

Also, there is a biger problem, Im below 18, which im guessing may cause some (a lot) of problems...
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Quote: "That would be great, thanks for volunteering Cliff!"

Sneaki b***rd

I wanted one from you as iam to dumb to understand the one there is

But whe i figure it out so will i share it with the others.

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The Zoq2, select individual yes but you had better check the rules as under 18's might be excluded. Sorry.


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Quote: "Sorry for highjacking your thread . But in the comodo webiste, there is an option to select "individual" and "organisation". Basicaly I don't have an organisation, so im guessing I should chose individual.

Also, there is a biger problem, Im below 18, which im guessing may cause some (a lot) of problems... "


I didt highlight any of them.

Only be sure to have your real name and adress for organisation as they use this info that is sent to them.

Even if you are under 18 do you well get some bills in your name?

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Quote: "Even if you are under 18 do you well get some bills in your name?"
I don't think so. But I can probably find something. I think a bigger problem is that im below 18, not that I don't have the required documents.
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Quote: "I think a bigger problem is that im below 18"

I'm afraid that getting the certificate may not be your only hurdle. To simply join the developers program you need to be over 18 (near the bottom) (or have your parents create an account in their name and you can operate through that). I was in the same situation when trying to join a year ago.

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Ya I read that to, But I also figured that that may cause some problems for the competition. But it's highly likley that that us what I will end up having to do
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Cliff I haven't looked much into this myself yet, but I believe they have now allowed the use of an exe installer, so an msi installer is not actually required. So either is allowed.
I am considering trying Moon Snaker on app up but haven't got round to trying it yet beyond a quick look. I haven't found a suitable exe install maker yet either ( I considered smartpacker, but it seems a very high price for what it does).

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Free version of Advanced Installer should do it.

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@JimHawkins, just had a quick look for it and checked out the price to buy it! It looks like we should be looking into writing these programs rather than games! I already tried install creator but didn't want the nag screen it left at the end. I'm guessing the free version of this will be the same, but will check it out regardless. Thanks for the pointer!

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Try Inno - it's free.

http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php

We used it for a long time - but needed features in Advanced Installer.

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Had a go yesterday with Inno, seems good apart from it doesn't seem to keep the directory structure when you run the install it creates. It is probably me missing something, but even adding a directory seems to add the data from within that to the main folder on the install file. Is that one of the advanced features you needed?

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I don't remember doing that - but vaguely remember having to be very careful about folder/file definitions in the script. I'll have a look and see if I can help.

Advanced Installer handles Services and all sorts of other things very well indeed. With a complex language lab it's vital to make installation as easy as possible for academic sites.

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Do agk apps nead the DBPGDKMergeModule.msm like dbp/gdk?

And wath version of the appup sdk do i nead for an agk app?

Wich one where used for dbp prgs.

Dvader when i manage to get your agk app to work for appup could you please let us now how you did it.

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You don't need the merge module. I would use the latest SDK, whatever version that is from the AppUp developer zone. As far as I am aware the SDK is no longer a requirement though.

You should be able to just create a simple / silent msi installer (with no interaction from the user), then apply the signing certificate, then upload it to AppUp.


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Quote: " I would use the latest SDK, whatever version that is from the AppUp developer zone."

The problem is that there is c,c++ and meego versions of the sdk ?
I really dont know wath to use with agk

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If you're using tier 1 and you want to make a new interpreter using the AppUp SDK then you'll need the C++ version I believe.


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Quote: "If you're using tier 1 and you want to make a new interpreter using the AppUp SDK then you'll need the C++ version I believe."


But this should not be neaded with the ongoing work by lee ?

I belive he wanted to do something that worked for us that entered to promote agk?

I will start my experiments with an agk appup installer sometime next week

And i hope i dont mess it up and understand the steps?

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I hadn't heard what Lee was doing, that sounds great


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you don't have to use the appup sdk, just forget about it, keep life simple
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I'm bumping this thread to ask... After Comodo approves your application and sends you the link to download the certificate, I can't seem to download any such certificate. I open the link in Firefox (same browser I used to apply, although my cache/cookies were deleted in between).

Firefox gives an alert "Your personal certificate has been installed. You should keep a backup copy of this certificate" but I see nowhere to download the certificate. If I check in the options to view my certificates, I see the following but don't know that any of them are the one I'm looking for.



The FAQ on the code project site says the certificates will be in either .pfx or .p12, but again I don't see any way to download such a file. Do I have to reapply again, making sure to not clear my cookies etc. until they approve it once more?

Going through the loops of Comodo to get a certificate is far more difficult and frustrating than developing an app.
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use explorer as this guide shows !
Its really simple.
you must install the files to your harddrive to be able to use them on your game.

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/how-do-i-get-code-signing-certificate-certifying-authority

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The certificates are listed just like your image, but this is not where your personal certificate is located. Try going back one step and look for something like 'my certificates'.

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EDIT: I just found my "COMODO CA Limited" certificate under "Your Certificates" in Firefox, so I guess it did install correctly and now can be exported. Thanks guys!
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I have uploaded mu app and waiting for validation and how many errors they find

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Good luck Cliff. Please post if you run into any big trouble when they review it, I'll be working feverishly this next week on mine to try and get something done before the deadline--too many other obligations lately
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I think its weird that you dont get an confirmation email that i have sent it to them ?

I dont trust only popup windows

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Well I finally got all the components together and got my app submitted. I'd forgotten how time consuming it is! A few +1s

+1 - Baxslash's guide
+1 - Mr_d's Mini MSI Maker
+1 - The code-signing utility by Baxslash
+1 - Cliff Mellengard for continuing to finetune the details
+1 - TGC for AppGameKit Tier 1 being so easy to package
+1 - Everyone who has helped to get all of this together

I encourage anyone who hasn't got there yet to keep going, it's worth it. And if you're waiting for AppGameKit beta frills, make sure you have your package ready to go now. If you can do it once, you can do it over and over in just 10 minutes thereafter.

Here's hoping I get a successful validation!

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Its fun to help

Iam also still waiting for validation from appup

I wonder how long it will take?

Iam counting on that they have remarks on things i nead to fix

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I wonder how may round 2 prices are left...

Unfortunley, I have tome work left on my app, and I still have to get the validation
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Hopefully as long as we get our app in by the round 2 deadline, it'll count even if Intel finds problems afterward.
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So if you use the new intel tool, does that mean that the app could still have archive errors an get rejected?
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Do you mean the code signing utillity?

It only signs the exe.


Iam more talking about agk errors when runned thru appup

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When I try to install my certificate I get this error

"This personal certificate can't be installed because you do not own the corresponding private key which was created when the certificate was requested."

Does anyone know where I can get my private key?
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You must be on the same computer that you requested the certificate from. You must also use Firefox or Internet Explorer.

If you used Chrome, you'll have to start again

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Damn I used chrome Ive emailed them anyway hopefully they can reissue one quickly.
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