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Norion
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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 02:51 Edited at: 27th Oct 2012 13:37
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Its ugly as hell. It looks like an old website now.

https://www.youtube.com/

What are your thoughts about it ?

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Airslide
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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 03:13
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I'm glad that ugly textured look is gone. Other than that I don't mind so far, except that the page isn't centered on my screen (in Safari at least).
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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 03:29
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Quote: "except that the page isn't centered on my screen"


I have the same problem with firefox

I actually liked that textured look. It just looks old right now.

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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 04:08
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Just to clarify, we're not talking about this one, right?
http://www.my-guides.net/en/images/stories/new_youtube_layout/new_youtube_layout.jpg
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=191837&b=2

Is there a new, new one? It hasn't hit me yet.

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^ Same here.
Hasn't hit me yet if it's a new, new one.

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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 10:49
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I havnt got it yet either. But I did see it on a friends stream, and judging from what I saw, it looks pretty bad. His wasnt centerd either.

I dont understand why they start working on a new layout, when there are SO many bugs, I have 3 diffirent subscription boxes (front page, subscriptions tab and my tablet, none of them shows all videos. The player randomly crashes and says an error occured, and for 2 months there was a bug where a video you where eatching would restart if the playback gaught up with the buffering. Also, it stops buffering when you pause the vid
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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 10:51 Edited at: 25th Oct 2012 10:51
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Quote: "Just to clarify, we're not talking about this one, right?"


No, this one which I'm not too keen on either.



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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 15:55
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Hasn't hit me yet but as usual, looks like I won't care about the changes.

+10 cool points to Nickydude for watching QI videos, though.

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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 18:46
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Looks good and clean to me. If it looked old there would be a bunch of marquee tags, animated gifs and tables everywhere.
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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 20:49
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Just when I got used to the old one, they change it... AGAIN?

please youtube, STOP, DOING, THAT.

It really doesnt get BETTER whenever they decide to change anything on youtube



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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 21:34
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Completely hate it. I have two Google+ accounts and this new theme was only applied to my primary one. So I'm using my secondary one for YouTube which hasn't changed yet.

If this becomes the standard, I'm going to be pissed...

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Posted: 25th Oct 2012 23:49
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Quote: "Just when I got used to the old one, they change it... AGAIN?

please youtube, STOP, DOING, THAT.

It really doesnt get BETTER whenever they decide to change anything on youtube"


I totaly agree, of all the youtube "pactches" has there ever been any update that has actually done something good, apart from fixing bugs after 3 months
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I'm getting tired of these updates. I don't mind the new look, if anything it's less cluttered than before. But I'm sick of having to adapt every time they change it.

I'm just getting used to the last/current one and now they're changing it.

:l


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I really don't get why people moan about things like these! It's hardly going to take you long to learn how to click the search bar and type in what you want.

If you think that sites should just be designed and developed once, and then left to get old, well, no.


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Posted: 26th Oct 2012 04:02 Edited at: 26th Oct 2012 04:10
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Yeah, you all act like you're 65 years old and can't be arsed to glance around for some buttons.

I have not yet used it, but from the screenshot, it looks fantastically simplified and easy to browse if you ask me... I don't know what they were thinking with the last version when compared with this one.
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Posted: 26th Oct 2012 08:21
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Quote: "If you think that sites should just be designed and developed once, and then left to get old, well, no."


Hardly, but putting out a massive layout change every 6 months is hardly nice.
I wouldnt like it if TGC did that either



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Posted: 26th Oct 2012 14:23
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Agreed, they should spent their time fixing bugs instead of designing new looks. =/

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This is just like when Facebook and MySpace changed their layouts in the past. "The old version was just fine" argument always comes up... Well, you know? You all complained about the old version when it came about. Now you want it back or something better. It's no wonder they keep redesigning it. Everyone complains the next version is not as good as the old one, but they don't go back to the old one, because no one liked that one either. You do this to yourselves!
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Posted: 26th Oct 2012 20:57 Edited at: 26th Oct 2012 22:15
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Then I guess the only solution is to stop redesigning the website over and over again.

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Posted: 26th Oct 2012 21:19 Edited at: 26th Oct 2012 21:20
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what Norion said.

I'd love to have the old facebook layouts back - same with youtube, i dont want anything BETTER, I just want what i'm USED to.

sure, if you find something is clumsy - then FIX IT. Thats different than REDESIGNING THE WHOLE WEBSITE. And ALL THE TIME on top of that



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Posted: 27th Oct 2012 01:00
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YouTube has always had a pretty darn terrible layout, especially in channel pages. They keep redesigning the home page- if you're like me the you use the home page the absolute least and just use the search bar.

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Posted: 27th Oct 2012 01:30
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Well, the homepage is suposed to be used to see subscriptions uploads, though the system is so broken anyway, you pretty much have to go to the subcsription page anyway
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Posted: 27th Oct 2012 01:58
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I use the homepage the most - since I usually only watch the stuff in my subscription box - and occationally what my friends make me watch



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Indicium
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Quote: "get"
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Would you prefer constant change or an outdated site? How are things supposed to improve without change?


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ionstream
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Yeah you can go ahead and just can the default "everyone always complains about changes" response. I really hope you don't think you're original for coming up with that gem.

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Quote: " I really hope you don't think you're original for coming up with that gem.
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Obviously I don't think I'm being original as it's the same stance of everyone who develops these sites. That wasn't even a valid argument you just made, it was a really crap attempt at making a dig towards me, try again.


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Quote: "That wasn't even a valid argument you just made,"


I wasn't trying to make an argument about whether or not the redesign is good, just that the people who jump to the chance to write "everyone complains about the redesign except me!" are just as annoying as the people who instinctively complain about it, if not more childish. But I suppose "get over it" is pretty valid though, huh?

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I'm not trying to say I'm the only one. I'm sure I've asked why people oppose the change, as I'm yet to see a logical answer for why somebody wouldn't like the site redesigned. It can only take them five minutes to learn the new interface, if that.


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Posted: 27th Oct 2012 09:40
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Quote: "Would you prefer constant change or an outdated site? How are things supposed to improve without change?"


If it works, why not? Heck, even now I would, any day, take the original youtube layout - without a problem.



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Well if you're going to have nothing but a closed mind about it, I give up! Your opinion is your opinion I guess, but as my friend always tells me, you can't fight the higher powers. YouTube is going to change it's layout regardless of whether a minority dislike it.


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Only thing I care about, is that my YT videos always stop dead about 80% of the way through, regardless of length. I then have to refresh the page, and skip through to watch the rest. (On Chrome here btw)
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Something really trivial that constantly irritates me on Youtube is the "bouncy time-line", when the video is playing in full screen and you move the cursor over the time-line it bounces up and down preventing you from clicking on it.

It only happens since they changed the size of the bar. This makes me think it's a bounds-checking error caused by a dodgy parameter they messed with because moving the cursor to the bottom of the screen hides the bar instantly, so I reckon it's detecting the mouse movement and displaying the bar then when you move down to the bar there's a buggy parameter that says the cursor is low enough to hide the bar, then when it's hidden it checks against the correct parameter and redisplays it. It does eventually come to a stop so I think bouncing is caused by a variable that slowly moves the bar down for that smooth transition, it's still counting down while the program is telling the bar to be displayed and checking if it needs to be hidden, but finally once the countdown is finished it stops checking and the bouncing ends.

Interesting to try and work out what's going on behind the scenes.

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You guys don't pay a dime to Google to use Youtube, so they can do whatever they want. I'm with the others who tell the complainers to shut it. How a website refresh is bad is completely beyond me. Is YouTube REALLY that difficult to use if they change the layout a bit? Geez, and you call yourself developers? Sure you're not old ladies?

You click the play button, and then click the pause button if you have to get a coffee. Oh, make sure you click the little speaker icon to adjust the volume!


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Quote: "You click the play button, and then click the pause button if you have to get a coffee. Oh, make sure you click the little speaker icon to adjust the volume! "


Actually, a while back, there was a glitch where the player would restart or crash when the video got up to the amount bufferd. This glitch was around for around 3 months I think. But you do have a point.

However, The broken subscription boxes are a big problem. Some people that I have subscribed to have had to quit doing youtube videos fulltime, just because there videos didn't appear in people's subscription boxes. This bug has been around for a year or so.
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The reason why this strikes a nerve with me is because whenever there is a change in a popular website, be it Facebook, Twitter, or Youtube, there are always two groups of immediate responders - the people who hate it, and the people who, with impressive coordination, complain about the complainers. Typically the words "whine," "whinge", and "moan" are frequently used to describe the complainers. This all comes down to the fact that the complainer-complainers don't agree with the criticism and think the new layout is fine. I'm fairly certain that if the site looked like this:



Then nobody would be saying "its free so get over it!" or "you can't tell Youtube what they can't do!" Sometimes a layout sucks. People have different opinions about what makes a good layout and what doesn't, so maybe we can all just empathize and concede to that fact.

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@Jeku:
First off, i dont think changining most of the layout means "a bit"
second, I spend most of my time on the main page - looking through my cluttered subscriber box, it's of utmost important that it's easy to navigate through that. Given, the SYSTEM that is in line right now is complete crap - but that's not a problem with the layout, just how it works really.

Still, i'm tired of revamp every year.


And while I dont pay them dime - they still live off of me in the form of ads.



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Quote: "And while I dont pay them dime - they still live off of me in the form of ads."


Lol, they don't care about this. Put it this way, they can do whatever the hell they want, where else are you going to go? Everything is youtube.


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Quote: "You guys don't pay a dime to Google to use YouTube, so they can do whatever they want."


You can't argue with that.

My problem isn't the fact they changed it. It's how it looks. It looks too simple and basic which to me is to appeal to the more common dummy who can't properly navigate a webpage. The screen is still off centered. I'm only complaining about how it looks, not how it functions.

I will give it some time before people start making custom styles and what not to make the page look nicer. But I personally don't like adding custom styles.

At the end of the day, YouTube is still YouTube. Although I just don't like how it looks as of now.

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@Quik:

I'm the same way. I stay on the home page and really only (try to) watch vids from my subscriptions. That said, looking at the pic Nickydude posted in detail, it looks like we'll still be able to do just that. "My subscriptions" and a list of your subscriptions are visible from the top of the page, so it's easy to change the list for that.

I think what it comes down to for me is aesthetics. The new look doesn't catch my fancy. The look that I'm still on has grown on me over the past 6 months or so, and I can only hope the new look will do the same.

So long as I can still use YouTube without fussing over little inconveniences (Such as a 505 error for an entire day telling me to forward a bunch of debug code to a team of monkeys) then I think it's fine.

My only request is that while they're doing a site rehaul, can they ditch the "Related Videos" or give an option to turn them off? Maybe then I can actually go to YouTube for less than 3 hours at a time and get some work done.


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Seems like the old theme is back. Well it is for me

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I hope they're gonna put it back for everyone


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I havn't got the new theme at all yet
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Quote: "You guys don't pay a dime to Google to use YouTube, so they can do whatever they want."
I'd say that this is true to a degree, they should have a bit of a moral/ethical obligation to try and make the layout decent. Obviously, extremes like crayontube as demonstrated above won't work too well. xD

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The theme has just changed for me too and it is annoying the hell out of me. Not centered, no design, random videos in my channel I don't care about etc.
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It's just changed for me too. It sucks.

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changed for me aswell - bugs hell out of me that i have to go to "my Subscriptions- show only uploaded videos to see what I want to see, not to mention it looks like a poorly generic designed video page - and its full of bugs - for example it doesnt show how many characters I have left when typing.



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In firefox youtube looks like usual (old), in chrome it has new freaky design. Like video title under the video! Yuck.
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Quote: "Like video title under the video! Yuck."

What's yuck about that? It looks much better and makes more sense to have all the text together rather than split it around a big video window.

The old theme was a damn mess; this is much cleaner and clearer. I like the new "guide" panel, that means I don't have to keep going back to the main page to look at other videos from my subscriptions. And I like that you can hide it if you don't want it (they should give that option with the recommended videos on the other side).

If you don't want to be recommended stuff to watch in the main panel then just click "My Subscriptions" it's not hard. Thankfully they got rid of "Highlights", as far as I can tell there is no hidden crap like that any more.

I can't believe people are complaining because it's a plain theme. The point of youtube is the videos not some fancy background images. The theme should be as streamlined as possible. I like it. In fact the only thing I don't like is how bright it is. There should be the option of a darker colour scheme.

Quote: "You guys don't pay a dime to Google to use Youtube, so they can do whatever they want."

Well that's true but it's a mutual relationship.

Quote: "I'm with the others who tell the complainers to shut it. How a website refresh is bad is completely beyond me. Is YouTube REALLY that difficult to use if they change the layout a bit? Geez, and you call yourself developers? Sure you're not old ladies?"

I totally agree Jeku, and it's quite ironic the number of times people bug you to make changes to the forums.

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Well, now I have video not in the middle of screen but on the top. I had to look up, that's inconvenient. And title must be on top, cause it is title. Big nice readable title, r.i.p.

But that's my only dislikes, new style is good.
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I really like the look of it, but the left justified layout is doing my head in. So, I came up with a solution:



Just drop that into a browser plugin that allows you to change css of pages, and it should be done!
If there are any pages missing or things messed up then let me know, and I can fix the css.

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