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Phaelax
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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 00:58
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I am a Bond fan and own all but two of the movies. I like Daniel Craig as Bond and enjoyed his first film. Quantum of Solace I didn't think was all that great. If it was, I'd probably remember at least something about it, but I don't.

Skyfall I felt was a pretty decent movie, but it didn't feel like a Bond movie. Bond car? Well, they did show the DB5 getting blown up but that's about it. Gadgets? A radio and a fingerprint-coded gun. Bond girl? Hmmm, not really. Shocking ending? Definitely, although it was bound to happen eventually. That's all I'll say on that because I don't want to give it away. The villain? They could've written something better, but wasn't the worst.

It's still a good movie and worth seeing. But I didn't really feel like I watched a Bond movie, just a good action movie. So when your gf asks you to go see Twilight this week, slap her and take her to Skyfall instead.

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MrValentine
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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 02:13 Edited at: 19th Nov 2012 18:47
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I too enjoyed it... but yeah they shifted quite a lot away from inspector gadget Bond...

I loved Batman Begins [Christian Bale] The Dark Knight [Again Bale] and of course The Dark Knight Rises... but Rises also did not feature enough of what I enjoyed Batman for... GADGETS!!! but that epic flying ship did suffice in the end [literally] lol... sadly I have to wait until February to buy the BLU-RAY Trilogy... they missed an epic sale in XMAS man...

Anyway, yeah, I hope the next film has more gadgets! [ModEdit] Be considerate of other users. Someone might not have seen it [/ModEdit] [I have been watching Bond films since the late 80's but as a grown person GoldenEye was my first proper Bond film...]

Quote: "So when your gf asks you to go see Twilight this week, slap her and take her to Skyfall instead."


Simply suggesting Twilight, earns a slap from me XD

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Le Shorte
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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 02:35
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Quote: "Skyfall I felt was a pretty decent movie, but it didn't feel like a Bond movie"

Definitely agree. I was disappointed by the lack of gadgets. The only parts I really felt, "Now THIS is a Bond movie," at were the car chases and the final standoff at Skyfall.

In the theater, I was completely shocked and sat there in disbelief until the credits were over. I think the movie delivered on actually giving a story rather than the generic "evil guy wants to blow up the world."

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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 07:48
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I liked it a lot, in fact I think its my favorite Bond movie. It was gadgetless but full of character, and was certainly the first movie where I cared at all about M. Or Bond, for that matter.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 12:03
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It definitely felt that the characters were more vulnerable, which was something I liked. Overall, I enjoyed it an awful lot. I have to be honest, my experience of Bond films is mainly from the Connery era, so I dunno whether those would be considered the best examples of a Bond movie.

Still, the villain had a little more to him than just wanting the world on fire, and though Bond spent the movie gadgetless, I think the choreography in fights made up for the lack of exploding pens.

Plus the little recurring joke about radio. I especially loved the bit where the villain used it while Bond was chasing him.

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mr Handy
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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 13:14
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So, is it a best movie with Craig? I have not seen it yet.
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Quote: "So, is it a best movie with Craig? "


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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 19:54
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MrValentine
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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 20:10
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I am watching Skyfall again in less than two hours...

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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 23:00
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I feel like everything comes out earlier here as I am already in possession of The Dark Knight Rises bluray.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2012 23:50 Edited at: 19th Nov 2012 23:55
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Gotta say, I came away really disappointed. While it was great they tried to do something different, it just felt like a mish-mash of random elements with a bit of fan service in between. The villain was also completely ridiculous and his actions [relative to his motives] were not believable, nor did they make an awful lot of sense

(Sure, the old Bond films had equally ridiculous villains -but they worked because everything about them was cheesy and ridiculous. Here it really stands out because everything is seemingly so serious but the villain is so paper-thin).

I enjoyed Casino Royale far more than I enjoyed Skyfall

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Posted: 20th Nov 2012 01:05 Edited at: 20th Nov 2012 01:05
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Rampage, the trilogy box set?

I can say I thoroughly enjoyed watching it again... for me I found a personal message in the movie this time round... I think Skyfall has something for us all... For me it was something far more personal.

Oh well, back to earth, I have 3 free days ahead, I have something I want to begin in DBP...

I must admit, I am looking forward to the next 2 films with huge anticipation!

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Posted: 20th Nov 2012 11:38
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The villain was the best in a long time, in my opinion

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Posted: 21st Nov 2012 02:22
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Quote: "The villain was also completely ridiculous and his actions [relative to his motives] were not believable, nor did they make an awful lot of sense"

This just blew my mind. Someone not liking the villain in this movie makes me lose faith in humanity.

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Posted: 21st Nov 2012 18:50
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Quote: "This just blew my mind. Someone not liking the villain in this movie makes me lose faith in humanity."

Oh dude. Look I liked the villain too but at least say why?

Personally I liked him because he was campy and silly and very old-school bondish but still actually reasonable scary in a way. He had a decent motive and you could see things from his point of view but he was still obviously evil. And I liked that they used lots of the traditional villian sterotypes but gave decent explanations for them - like yeah, he has his own island, but he's got it because he tricked the locals into thinking there's a radiation leak. Brilliant.

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Posted: 21st Nov 2012 20:20
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Quote: "Oh dude. Look I liked the villain too but at least say why?"

I just flat out thought he was the most amazing part of the movie. Sure he was so out of control insane to the point it was borderline unrealistic, but the way he talked, the way he laughed, that crazy look in his eyes... I just thought he was incredible. Although I thoroughly enjoyed the first two Bond movies with Daniel Craig, I always felt something was missing, and not just that Q wasn't in it. And this Bond villain was EXACTLY what was missing for me. It felt retro Bond in a way.

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Posted: 21st Nov 2012 20:57
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Quote: "This just blew my mind. Someone not liking the villain in this movie makes me lose faith in humanity."


Don't get me wrong - I didn't have issues with his performance per se - just the writing and the motivation of the character seemed really stupid

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Posted: 21st Nov 2012 21:11 Edited at: 21st Nov 2012 21:49
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Wasn't he motivated by revenge for handing him over to the other side as he was out of control? They tortured the crap out of him which explained his insanity perfectly, not to mention the effects of the cyanide pill he tried to kill himself with and failed.
Like Bond he was a favourite of M's at first and at the start of the movie she didn't hesitate to give the order to take the shot which could have killed Bond. The parallels between villain and hero's dark sides were obvious I thought.

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Quote: "Wasn't he motivated by revenge for handing him over to the other side as he was out of control? They tortured the crap out of him which explained his insanity perfectly, not to mention the effects of the cyanide pill he tried to kill himself with and failed."

Yes this is exactly why. Going insane for having been tortured for such a long period of time and ingesting a cyanide capsule that permanently and utterly ruined his face to me seems like a fairly good reason for his insanity. His characteristics were just so crazy and out of the norm, I can understand why one would find them unbelievable to an extent... But it just simply boggles my mind that one could find the writing stupid!!! To each their own I guess.

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Posted: 22nd Nov 2012 20:15
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This is my first bond movie I've actually seen that stared Daniel Craig. so far he seems different than the other James Bond. Other than that I'd always loved the series.
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