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Geek Culture / PS3 has outshipped 360. So I was right... eventually :P

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Matt Rock
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Posted: 11th Jan 2013 13:50
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If you've been around on TGC for a long time (since the current generation of consoles were introduced), you most likely remember me putting up a big protest against an onslaught of 360 fans when I claimed the PS3 would outsell the 360. Most of you said I was crazy, or stupid, or crazy-stupid; it was pretty universally agreed that I was wrong. As time went on, I said I was wrong too.

But now there's been a little bit of a belated silver-lining: PS3 has now, many years later, outshipped the 360 (total units shipped). Wikipedia says it has outsold 360 as well, though I'm wary of that statistic. And last week I read that PS3 "severely outsold" the other consoles this holiday season (I can't find that article now, so consider that unconfirmed). So the moral of the story is, uh, never give up... or something

Having said that, we have a new console generation coming soon. Thoughts?

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Posted: 11th Jan 2013 13:54 Edited at: 11th Jan 2013 13:55
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I sense a "Xbox v. Playstation v. PC" war incoming. Put on your fire-retardant suits and ready your flame extinguishers 'cause its about to get hot!

On a more serious note, I guess it outsold because there's naturally more people playing on a PS so it's like "Hey dude get a PS3 so we can totes play together and it's better than a xbox" and it goes from person to person. It really depends on your personal preference; I play on an xbox because I think it's better.

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Posted: 11th Jan 2013 14:11
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Over the years I've found myself moving more and more into PC gaming; I used to play consoles a lot more than I do today. There are some games that just feel wrong to play on a PC, for me anyway, like Grand Theft Auto or sports games. But I've been getting more and more into strategy games, too, and also FPS games, so I guess that's sort of why I've been going more PC-ish.

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I put on my 360 a couple weeks ago for the first time in months, just wanted to watch the story of Mojang movie. Tedious updates, then notice my gold membership expired, spent 20 minutes trying to renew it to no avail. Tried my brothers 360, same exact problem.

Yeah, the 360 is really struggling now to justify itself, I don't think I need a 360 anymore. In fact, I'm not sure I'm all that bothered about the next generation of consoles... both Sony and MS have left it too long IMO, we should have had a new generation before now. The way that this generation of consoles has been milked stupid, kinda puts me off. Really, I think I'd be better off buying a VR headset or 3D monitor instead of wasting more money on consoles.

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Does anyone still actually play consoles anymore?

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Quote: "Does anyone still actually play consoles anymore?"


weird of you to say that considering all games nowadays are made first hand for consoles...



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mr Handy
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Posted: 11th Jan 2013 18:08
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Sony's credit rating harshly dropped to BB-. M$'s is AAA and Nintendo's is AA+. I think Sony will go bankrupt soon, and probably Google buy it.

Quote: "weird of you to say that considering all games nowadays are made first hand for consoles..."

I'd say mobile.

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Posted: 11th Jan 2013 19:14
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I don't see the relevance because I can't see a difference between the consoles anymore.

This "war" was stupid. Neither side won because they sold the consoles at a loss and expected game sales to boost revenue. Hence the exclusives to justify the consoles' existence.

I'm liking the possiblity of the Steam Box route Valve are taking. As many "consoles" that are repurposed PCs like all consoles essentially are. Pick whatever hardware you want, but the software and games available will all be the same.

I think MS and Sony must've lost out on money through people not buying Uncharted/Halo/other exclusives purely because the shellout for yet another console is too much for a fair few people to justify, but a game is less so.

Also selling digitally distributed games at hard-media prices? I hope Steam hits the market hard enough to kill that dead.

I think with Ouya, Gamestick, Steam Box and such looming, this generation just gone is the last one where MS and Sony can afford to standoff against each other. There's too many 3rd parties aside from Nintendo entering the market, and Ouya and Steambox are entering with significant support as it is.

This generation is going to be very, very interesting. I also suspect that Nintendo will lose it's grip a little more. A lot of developers dropped the WiiU because the hardware still isn't up to current-gen standards. I think they'll lose the budget market, and have to think on their feet to survive.

So expect the WiiRacket in 2014. It's a WiiStick with a screen on it, for no reason whatsoever except to render a picture of your face.
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I laugh when I see a console... that is why I program multiplayer interfaces for my games that have the capacity for it

4x X360 for Windows joy pad - DONE! [With credit to someone on the forums here]

Consoles are for simpletons... but they serve their purpose sometimes...

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Posted: 11th Jan 2013 21:05 Edited at: 12th Jan 2013 00:42
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Quote: "Consoles are for simpletons"


That's a bit of an odd generalisation! PC elitism... worse than the petty console wars!

" I think console gaming is far greater than PC gaming. You buy a console game you know when you get it home it's going to play on your console. You buy a PC game and even though you meet/exceed the minimum specs you have no guarantee of it working... It's happened to me many times and many people I know many times... You spend hours trying to find solutions only to be left waiting for the devs to patch the game. Providing they do actually patch it... Please don't try to make out that getting a game to run on your system is fun and only simpletons can't figure out how to get things working. I buy games to play games not to have to solve a puzzle to make it work on my system.

PC games DRM is another reason why console gaming is superior. I've never had a rootkit installed on my console, my console games don't require me to play single player games online, I don't need to download a potentially harmfull cracked executable so that I can run a game to get around intrusive DRM. "

Gaming is for entertainment. No one gaming platform is better than another. Play games to be entertained not so you can boast about how what you play games on is superior.

I'm glad this console generation has been so long. What can really be achieved with a new set of consoles?

I own more PC games than console games, and play many games on PC. But, IMO, it's far from the superior gaming platform and consoles are for more than 'simpletons'!!!!!

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I was talking about my brother XD

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Oh Matt, my dear dear Matt. Good to see you back, but you and I both know that it's not about how much something sells, Justin Beiber, I rest my case.

Saying that, the PS3 is a good console and is worth the money and I am saying this as a perfectly happy 360 user.

I don't do console wars...but if I did, I would be awesome at them.


Hope this isn't a one off visit to rub it in.

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You "think" too much; there is a lot of official data to analyze. M$ loosing money with Xbox, but they have too much money to notice that. They just can afford it. Nintendo is constanly loosing market step by step, but steps are very small. Sony did too much mistakes with their latest gadgets that failed at selling.

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Posted: 11th Jan 2013 23:24 Edited at: 11th Jan 2013 23:26
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I'm happy to see the PS3 pull ahead. I hated what MS did with the 360, with paid-online, hogging Halo and not putting it on the PC, and deciding to make Windows more like a console/tablet, not vice versa.

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I read this...
Quote: "console gaming is superior."

Then...
Quote: "No one gaming platform is better than another."

Then...
Quote: "Play games to be entertained not so you can boast about how what you play games on is superior."

Then...
Quote: "What can really be achieved with a new set of consoles? "


And I honestly can't see where you're going with your post. I'm sorry, but I really, really, don't see what point you were trying to make, or why you contradicted yourself multiple times within a few sentences.

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Quote: "Sony's credit rating harshly dropped to BB-. M$'s is AAA and Nintendo's is AA+. I think Sony will go bankrupt soon, and probably Google buy it."

Wath part of sony ?
music.
mobile phones.
home entertainment (stereos and tv sets).
Home consoles.
games division.
surf tabs.
computers.
if iam not wrong so are sony alot wider then microsoft with alot more subdivisions.
But a problem is that when the market writes sony gets rated down so do they not specify wath part of sony that is the cause?
And if i remember it right so do microsoft and sony earn money on there consoles since over a year back.
Microsoft them self stated that they earn ther largest cash flow on the box thru its gold memberships.
I love and play my ps3 and it have free online services.
But ms online costs money but is better.

I hate the new updated psn store

We should never forget how impressive it whas that ms smacked the oldtimers like nintendo and sony on the fingers with the 360 and forced them to shape up.

I love gaming and dont care wath hardware my games run on.
Its more personal taste and flavour

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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 00:46 Edited at: 12th Jan 2013 00:47
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Quote: "And I honestly can't see where you're going with your post. I'm sorry, but I really, really, don't see what point you were trying to make, or why you contradicted yourself multiple times within a few sentences."


The point of my post was that no gaming platform is superior to another. There was a healthy dose of sarcasm inside the post which probably didn't come out as you read it, but I'm not going to go back and edit it to make it more readable

Already in this thread superiority of one platform over another was rearing its head. First 2 paragraphs = sarcasm... a console gamer justifying their purchase (because let's be honest, that's all the console arguments ever are)...

Rest of post is what I think and:

Quote: "What can really be achieved with a new set of consoles?"


What can be achieved with a new generation of consoles?... I don't believe there is anything wrong with the current generation of consoles and I don't believe that increased processing power or graphical enhancements are going to improve gaming in its current state. Generally when a new console appears the initial lineup of games is graphically superior to the previous console but that's about it. You might disagree, but look at the games being made for the PS2 just before the PS3 was released, imo, many of those games were superior to the launch lineup of PS3 games in every way other than graphics. There's only so far we can go in terms of improved graphics, and that's all I really see a new generation of consoles bringing to the table.

Also I don't see how saying play games to be entertained not to boast about your platform contradicts anything I said anyway. The point of gaming is entertainment, not what platform you use.

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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 01:44 Edited at: 12th Jan 2013 01:45
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I prefer the 360 over the PS3 for only one reason: the controller. I mean, after so many iterations of the Playstation one should think they'd actually try improving the controller (analog sticks and the secondary L/R buttons mainly), but no, it's still exactly the same... almost as if they just don't want to admit to the public that it's about time to redesign it.

Except for that, I like the PS3 just as much as the 360.

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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 04:08 Edited at: 12th Jan 2013 04:10
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Better processing power and hardware will go a long way in terms of delivering not only better graphics, but games capable of pulling off much more while keeping the same graphical integrity. Open-world games today generally have some low res textures or their graphics simply aren't as good all around. Not only that, but a new generation of consoles will allow games to actually run without framerate drops like is so common with seemingly every game nowadays. And of course the late PS2 games would trump the early PS3 games. The developers had been using the console longer, and would have had a longer dev time. I'd assume many PS3 launch titles were rushed in order to meet the console's release date. In my opinion, it's not only graphics, but the scale of games, too. You certainly wouldn't see Planetside 2 on consoles. And just look at the inner workings of games from them to now; it's just got so much more complex and there's always more things going on than could ever have been achieved before. And don't get me wrong, I'm a PC gamer first, but I do have a PS3, PS2, and an N64 still lying around.

And I did, indeed miss the sarcasm in your post. Sorry for that

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Quote: "I prefer the 360 over the PS3 for only one reason: the controller. I mean, after so many iterations of the Playstation one should think they'd actually try improving the controller (analog sticks and the secondary L/R buttons mainly), but no, it's still exactly the same... almost as if they just don't want to admit to the public that it's about time to redesign it."


Personally I've always preferred the PlayStation controller, at least dualshock 3, previous versions were a little uncomfortable. I find it sits lighter in my hands, the buttons are easier to reach and press, and its layout to be a bit more logical. The two analog sticks being even rather than offset from each other is also more comfortable to me. I also like the ability to press the shoot button faster on a ps3 controller, the triggers on the xbox controllers take too long to press for me. These are obviously all my opinions and ergonomic preferences, but it is enough to make a difference in my gaming experience.

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Quote: "Personally I've always preferred the PlayStation controller, at least dualshock 3, previous versions were a little uncomfortable. I find it sits lighter in my hands"


Funnily enough, even as someone who's only ever had dualshock controllers (with ps2 aswell), I prefer the 360. Perhaps because the first gaming controller I held as an xbox from when I first played halo at a mate's house on the pc and original xbox.

Not trying to start a console war here (in fact I think ^ that's the opposite)

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Oh boy. I must be getting old. My first controller was by nintendo for the NES. A rectangle box shaped thing. Comfort wasn't the point, the point was I had a NES.

I find PS controllers less comfortable; although I am a PC gamer now.

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Quote: "PC games DRM is another reason why console gaming is superior. I've never had a rootkit installed on my console, my console games don't require me to play single player games online, I don't need to download a potentially harmfull cracked executable so that I can run a game to get around intrusive DRM."


Sony has filed for a patent that essentially ties a game to a console, which fits the bill for their previous intentions of snuffing the pre-owned games market.

I personally prefer Steam's way of tying it to a software login, not a piece of hardware. What if my PS4 fritzes, are all my games lost too?
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Quote: "Yeah, the 360 is really struggling now to justify itself, I don't think I need a 360 anymore. In fact, I'm not sure I'm all that bothered about the next generation of consoles... both Sony and MS have left it too long IMO, we should have had a new generation before now. The way that this generation of consoles has been milked stupid, kinda puts me off."

My sentiments entirely.

I don't see the appeal of consoles any more: they are as expensive as a decent PC when they are new, you can't upgrade them when they get old, you can do so much more with a PC, and games cost a ridiculous amount of money!

I paid about $1200 for my PC, and I've bought about 20 games for around $8 each. That's about $1360 all together.
I paid about $450 for my PS3, and I bought 11 games for around $50 per game. That's about $1000 all together.
So I saved a measly $360 dollars for an old broken machine with half as many games, and that's not including free games like Planetside 2.

Even if you treat a PC purely as a gaming machine it still doesn't make sense to buy a console because there are so many cheap or free games out there on PC and it's usually a better experience since the hardware is constantly evolving.

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Quote: "Oh boy. I must be getting old. My first controller was by nintendo for the NES"


Wait my bad, I meant the first controller I regularly held , mine'd probably be super nintendo (then again that was still in 2002 or something I'm just a young'n)

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Quote: "I paid about $1200 for my PC, and I've bought about 20 games for around $8 each. That's about $1360 all together.
I paid about $450 for my PS3, and I bought 11 games for around $50 per game. That's about $1000 all together."


Yep, you can have 20 PS3 games or 100 PC games.
The more you have the more you feel the difference. Especially with 360 pad for PC

Many games are cross platformers, so it's funny to see PC's GTA 4 for $15 with better graphics, when you need to pay $50 for worse version.

But personally I would like to buy PS3, because of PS one memories, but games prices are incredibly high for gamer like me (who plays a lots of games). Nintendo is very cool with it's 3ds, as it was cool with GBA at the time.

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Quote: "I paid about $1200 for my PC, and I've bought about 20 games for around $8 each. That's about $1360 all together.
I paid about $450 for my PS3, and I bought 11 games for around $50 per game. That's about $1000 all together."

That's exactly why my PC games collection is sitting around 200 and my PS3 around 15. Though, to be fair, I've actually played all of my PS3 games

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With PC games, Steam really doesn't help. So many of them sell cheaply that you just end up buying on impulse, for any console games I'll ask myself "do I really want to buy it?".

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I never liked the XBox controllers, to me they seem big, clunky, and unnatural. A huge reason why I love the PlayStation so much is because the controllers work for me so well. There are a few games (like Arkham Asylum) that I have on PC, where I wish I could use my PS3 controller. There's probably a way to do it, but bleh, that would require, you know, work and time and stuff

I don't think it's fair to say console games are worse than PC games, or that console games are simple. I think consoles offer quite a bit of stability and uniformity you simply can't get with a PC.

Compare Battlefield 3 on consoles and on PC. I play it on PC, because FPS games on consoles make me gag a little, but let's look at what each requires of a player. On PC, you have to download and install Origin, install and update the game, screw around with graphics settings, and then update your joystick drivers because that decided to be a pain. Contemporary consoles use more of those steps than they should, but still, it's easier to just plug it in and play it. And you don't have to think about your FPS rate, or possible overheating, or any of the other nonsense that comes along with PC gaming.

And stability! PC gaming lacks the stability of consoles (though I suppose that's a matter of interpretation). I found that out the hard way last spring when my new-ish PC, which I bought in 2010, started dying. The MMO guild that Seppuku and I belong to constantly suffers when raiding and whatnot, because people had to screw around with visual settings on certain boss fights, or some other weird PC-centric issue. I love PC gaming, I have the insane computer with funky glowing fans and a keyboard, mouse, and joystick that are more expensive than some whole computers to prove it, lol, but I wouldn't say PC gaming is better or worse than console gaming.

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I like xbox because I can sit on my couch and play games on my 42" tv through my stereo. I like pc games because I can mod them. I can play pc games through my tv, but it has to be my laptop and it has limited specs. for me a well set up pc will always kick arse but I can appreciate a game console. in the early days my preference was Playstation, in the late 90's it was where gaming was at. I then got an xbox in the early 2000's it was hell fun and me and my brother had a lot of fun nights playing it.

I started off with a nes, then got an atari lynx(whoo color screen on a portable device!) then got an SNES(best console of all time to this date says I) then I got a nintendo 64, I was never overly sold on it. enter playstation, i got one in 1999 and it really was the ducks nuts. it had the pick of games and the graphics were great. All the good games came out on a sony. it was then that I actually got a pc worth gaming on and stepped into the pc arena with the quake series and halflife, riven and serious sam, pc gaming won out hard. enter xbox, which just came out of left field and was so advance that it left everything else for dead. it was years before I could afford one, but me and my bro scraped up the cash and spent many fun years gaming on it, building a game collection worth several thousand dollars. I went back to pc when oblivion came out.

I like consoles because they dont chunk... only because they dont tempt you with options which you cannot resist leading to your pc game chunking.(c'mon, be honest, who hasn't set the game to sensible spec's played it and then gone, "what if...", "I just want to see it on this setting, this looks awesome maybe i can tolerate some chunking." and then you are either playing a chunky game or tolerating blocky graphics because its all you can run.) the console version provides what it promises without question. there is value in that.

In this day and age, all the consoles basically do the same thing, it just comes down to which one you choose, I like my new xbox 360. i dont mind paying $70 a year for connectivity options, i love being able to buy a new game the second it comes out without having to leave my couch. i dont even have to buy xbox or pc world magazine to watch trailers. they can all be downloaded free. i like the controller and the games run well. that's all that really matters.

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I just want to come in and balance my view out, I think I gave up on consoles after the original XBOX was out, from that point on, I just think it hardly appealed to me... PSOne was the most influential for me...

Most Original Games [In 3D at least]

And a lot of legendary games returned on it from the NES era... [Nintendo games excluded for obvious reasons - and SEGA of the time for similar reasons too]

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I agree that console gaming is simpler and you worry less about measures made to prevent piracy or stupid things game companies put on you, in contrast to Origin, I had to install uPlay after I bought Anno 2070 off of Steam, it just seemed utterly pointless and delayed me from playing the game.

Of course, where one has weaknesses it also has strengths, I can't wait until I build my gaming PC. With stability, you were pretty unfortunate Matt, however, I think it's the case with any product out there - we get customers complaining because their washing machine broke down within 2 years and their old one lasted 10 years, ours do too, but you can't guarantee each and every one will.

One plus side to desktop PC's having a problem is that a lot of the time you can fix it yourself with your PC being an exception Matt. But console gamers...even PS3 gamers can run into hardware issues, one friend had his PS3 die and a colleague had his 360 RROD recently. I don't think you're going to escape the problem, regardless of what kind of product you buy.

I PC & Console game and love both. I prefer each for different reasons. If I thought one sucked, well, I wouldn't game on it. Granted, I don't play my 360 as much as I used to, but unfortunately most of the games out at the moment feel stagnant. The last year, other than SW:TOR & WoW, has pretty much been filled with nostalgia gaming.

Quote: " The MMO guild that Seppuku and I belong to constantly suffers when raiding and whatnot, because people had to screw around with visual settings on certain boss fights, or some other weird PC-centric issue"


I never had to do that...but then again I used to run the game at insanely low settings, but I am proud of that little GMA, it managed to pull through, just as well considering I was a healer. I have tried it on my now-fixed gaming laptop, but the card is kinda under performing (though doing better than the GMA), it'll get slow downs after a while on some games (including SW:TOR).

However, I see your point. Sadly when your PC died and SW:TOR went downhill (funny how the two coincide, perhaps Bioware should have invested in your new PC to save the game), I think during raids it was the least of our worries as you're probably aware. For most of us the server stability was the final straw, due to server issues we even got wiped on Gharj and that's normally a walk in the park for us...

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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 21:34
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Quote: "On PC, you have to download and install Origin"


Not our fault EA are trying to shoehorn their games to a crappy service in competition with Steam.
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Le Shorte
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Posted: 13th Jan 2013 03:08
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I'd prefer that Origin didn't exist, but I can't say it's terrible. It's actually decent, considering how bad Steam was the first few years. I bought BF2 and BF2142 on Origin for $6 and $4.50 respectively and they're DRM free, believe it or not. You just need Origin to download them, not play them. At the end of the day, though, Steam is just the better alternative and probably will always be.

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Posted: 13th Jan 2013 03:38
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but being able to do just that is a lot of fun imo..



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Posted: 13th Jan 2013 04:05 Edited at: 13th Jan 2013 04:06
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To me, the Uncharted series is a good enough reason for me to own a PS3 and a Vita (Which I bought day one so I could play Golden Abyss) and not to mention the Killzone and God of War games.

I much prefer my PS3 over my Wii and 360 which I only bought to play Fable 2 and 3 and I prefer my Vita over my 3DS. I also preferred my PS2 over my XBOX and GameCube and I preferred my PSone over my N64, only just though(Final Fantasy ftw).

I've always liked PS controllers over any other console controllers, though I do use a 360 controller for my PC which serves it's purpose fine. I just find PS3 controllers more comfortable and responsive compared to the 360 controller.

I'm tempted to buy a Wii U but can't really justify it yet and I will get a PS4, probably one day one. Not sure about the next XBOX though.

My old SNES and Sega were pretty cool, too

I've always been a fan of PC gaming. I loved playing Age of Empires and Diablo, which I still do (Though I wish I never played D3) and to this day I have over 300 PC games.

In the end it doesn't really matter what platform I'm playing a game on. A game is a game and I love them

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That was entertaining, thank you!

Quote: "Having said that, we have a new console generation coming soon. Thoughts?"

For the first time, I'm looking forward to both consoles. I bought an Xbox 360 once, then promptly returned it after facing an onslaught of issues right away. It was extremely loud, looked ugly (to me), and it heated up my room to the point that I couldn't have it running for more than a few minutes (else I'd be burnt toast). Then I got myself a PS3. The first one I got was used and had some overheating issues. I chalked it up to just being used and decided to go with a newer version (accepting that I would not be able to run GNU/Linux or PS2 games on it) and gave it a try. The backwards compatibility with at least the PS1 games was a plus as I still had a bunch that I liked to play (like Final Fantasy VII, Crash Bandicoot, etc). I found a bunch of PS3 games for somewhat cheap and then enjoyed playing it. Though I didn't have it for long as I eventually had to sell it (eh, money sucks when you have none of it), but it was fun when I had it. At the moment I'm using my PC for gaming purposes.

Anyway, back to my original thought, I wouldn't mind investing in both a "PS4" and "XB720."

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