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Melancholic
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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 20:39
Yep...

Suck it science!


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 20:41
I find that talking about esoteric or less conventional things on this forum only leads to unnecessary arguments. Interesting article though

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 20:53
Urg, some people actually believe in this nonsense and end up blind as a result.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sungazing

I'd have linked to the wikipedia article but this site cuts through all the crap and tells it how it is.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 20:56
Are you suggesting your wiki is a more reliable source than NASA?!?!


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 20:56 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 20:59
WE might get some energy from photons, but not in the way that the article describes. A lot of these threads mention NASA, and most of the time the wording has been misleading.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:01
Why would they claim stuff, albeit we a NASA source, if it wasn't true? Come on now think with your head...


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:02 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 21:05
Quote: "Are you suggesting your wiki is a more reliable source than NASA?!?!"


Well link me to a NASA source and we'll talk. While we're at it lets see some reliable sources for homeopathy, aura reading, crystals, an afterlife (includes hell since some people tell me I'm going there), faith healing, cupping, a supreme deity, and anything else that science has never proved but its proponents claim is true.

I'll tell you what this is. It's a proponent of some woo finding an article from a reputable source that discusses that particular 'field', and mentions some positive points that can be re-interpreted to give some validity to an otherwise nonsense claim.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:05
I'd like to introduce you to a little phenomenon called the Placebo Effect.
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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:07
Uhm, crystal gazing does work. http://hermetic.com/norton/ashort.htm

It's just that many people think all it takes is look into a crystal and some magical crap happens, which isn't at all how it works. There's a lot more to it than that.

Subconsciousness is a scientific field of study not yet fully discovered. Claiming that things don't work because science hasn't proven it, but can't be disproved, is a destructive mentality.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:09
I'm well acquainted with the Placebo Effect, and this has nothing t with it, the placebo effect can produce physiological manifestations however it cannot do the impossible, E.G what the sources state and validate, ergo sun gazing = true.


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:10 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 21:11
You see... already someone came up with rational wiki.

A joyless website of some insecure bafoon (this is my opinion, I dont know the guy) that tends to childishly dismiss things I have seen working countless times in a very sarcastic and mean-spirited way so others with antiquated points of view can have a good chuckle and feel superior to these clearly pathetic people that believe in things beyond our 5 senses (that can perceive less than one percent of the proven electromagnetic spectrum by the way.) and dont have the urge to know and control everything and dismiss whatever does not fit in their precious little save reality.

Especially the articles about alternative healing practices that clearly leave out facts (and claims, although I cant blame him for that) to support his... limited... points of view. It is more sad than funny really but...this is the internet. So to each his opinion.

Quote: "Subconsciousness is a scientific field of study not yet fully discovered. Claiming that things don't work because science hasn't proven it, but can't be disproved, is a destructive mentality."


True! I find that some people have issues with the sentence "I dont know".

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:12
Quote: "Why would they claim stuff, albeit we a NASA source, if it wasn't true? Come on now think with your head..."


NASA faked the moon landing...

NASA Area 51 Alien Capture...

A lot of fake stuff has a NASA source attached to it.

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Quote: "NASA Area 51 Alien Capture..."


Come on! We have a lot of evidence in both directions here. You dont need to claim your view on this as an ultimate truth and call it fake.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:16 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 21:18
Quote: "Come on! We have a lot of evidence in both directions here. You dont need to claim your view on this as an ultimate truth and call it fake."


If NASA captured aliens years ago, and the aliens crashed their ship. Where is the NASA ship now? NASA struggle to get to Mars still. NASA even fall behind me in most discoveries.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:18
Quote: "NASA faked the moon landing...

NASA Area 51 Alien Capture...

A lot of fake stuff has a NASA source attached to it."


Erm... none of those things have NASA sources, do you even know what source means?


Quote: "If NASA captured aliens years ago, and the aliens crashed their ship. Where is the NASA ship now?"


Read that back to yourself, you'll hopefully recognize where you went wrong with that statment


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:19 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 21:22
Quote: "Read that back to yourself, you'll hopefully recognize where you went wrong with that statment"


You mean that the aliens survived but the ship was totally destroyed? hmmm tough aliens. And also they couldn't communicate anything.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:21
Quote: "aiens"


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:22
Pincho, do you even logic?

Firstly you claim something about an alien ship, then talk about a NASA ship, CONJECTURE! If you meant where did NASA put the crashed ship, the world is a large place...


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Quote: "Firstly you claim something about an alien ship, then talk about a NASA ship, CONJECTURE! If you meant where did NASA put the crashed ship, the world is a large place..."


Oh.. OK this is some kind of joke.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:26
Nice debating tactic you have there, when the going gets rough and you realize your in the wrong you claim something absurd about the other debater, anybody here get the same strong scent of ad hominem?


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:30 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 21:32
Quote: "Nice debating tactic you have there, when the going gets rough and you realize your in the wrong you claim something absurd about the other debater, anybody here get the same strong scent of ad hominem?"


The going never got going let alone rough.

Quote: "and you realize your in the wrong"


You realized that I was wrong.. from what? It's not possible to read my reply and realise that I was wrong. You would have to read my mind.

Quote: "Oh.. OK this is some kind of joke."


... he realised that he was wrong.. it's in the spacing between oh.. and OK.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:34
This has derailed in a hilarious way. Don't look at the sun. No NASA sources have been linked and all of the sources are just circular references to other new-age sites.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:36 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 21:37
Quote: "NASA even fall behind me in most discoveries.
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You see! Thats what I mean. You simply claim your discoveries to be true despite all counter argument. You even claim to be ahead of a leading scientific community... you understand that this sounds crazy? Not claiming that you are crazy...just that your claim sounds too extreme and crazy. I have many unconventional theories but I dont claim them to be absolutely true. I believe that nothing is absolutely true anyway.

Quote: "If NASA captured aliens years ago, and the aliens crashed their ship. Where is the NASA ship now? NASA struggle to get to Mars still. NASA even fall behind me in most discoveries."


1. It wasnt the NASA, but the army

2. Concidering the landing was true,

What makes you think they A) could use the technology at all B) decided not to use it and introduce it to society bit by bit to avoid a technoshock. (Introducing advanced technology to a society that is not ready for it) C) That aliens actually took it away from us without the general public noticing. D) The alien controlled government theory? (always a classic) E)The ship was too damaged to be any use.

3. The most well known discovery from that story (concidering it to be true) was the material that seems very robust and form preserving. You are familiar with it? A recent find that might, taking hypothesis as truth, just be that material which is now introduced into our society...as we are ready for it: Graphene.

Quote: "This has derailed in a hilarious way. Don't look at the sun. No NASA sources have been linked and all of the sources are just circular references to other new-age sites."


As I stated above. this is just not the forum for this stuff @Melancholic

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:38
Quote: "The going never got going let alone rough."


The bending got ought getting not bend water.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:39
Quote: "The going never got going let alone rough."


I beg to differ, why did you quit providing your fallacious rebuttals?

Quote: "You realized that I was wrong.. from what? It's not possible to read my reply and realise that I was wrong. You would have to read my mind."


Honestly, what? That doesn't make sense on so many levels, lrn2tlk

Quote: "... he realised that he was wrong.. it's in the spacing between oh.. and OK."


Again, dafuq does this even mean?

Quote: " No NASA sources have been linked"


Sure, deny the evidence when it seems convenient, WHAT ABOUT THE SOURCE THE ARTICLE USES?


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:42
Sungazing is a real thing: https://www.facebook.com/sungazing1

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Awesome!

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Guys, I have a new theory, what if NASA are the aliens, and human ships crashed into NASA forcing NASA to take the shape of humans to avoid confusion. But the ship was destroyed in the crash, and to get back NASA must build a spacecraft that can transport them back to the teresteral body that they came from. And in order to do that, they need to gather a lot of seaweed from the ocean floor which is a tedious process and getting lost on earth is pretty easy when you are not from around here. So they constructed the GPS network to help navigate on the ocean. However the humans that crashed into earth stole the technology and gave it to the rest of the human population, something that the aliens don't want happening.

In order to fix it they had to destroy all GPS equipment in the world which isn't an easy task. They are now waiting for us to rely soley on GPS for navigation before they will guide us into something that destroys us and the GPS equipment. The problem is that the aliens don't understand the concept of collision with solid objects and must find something that can destroy the equipment in some other way. In order to do that, they have created satelites which can predict the weather and find the worst weather conditions for the GPS devices. When the time is right, they will redirect all GPS users into bad weather where they will get killed along with the equipment. After that, they can focus on getting back home.
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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 21:55 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 21:59
Quote: "You see! Thats what I mean. You simply claim your discoveries to be true despite all counter argument. You even claim to be ahead of a leading scientific community... you understand that this sounds crazy? Not claiming that you are crazy...just that your claim sounds too extreme and crazy."


Because scientists find all of my ideas years later. Only last week there was news on Black Hole physics in atoms just below Quantum Physics of today, and that was the basis of my idea. The week before that there was a bubble discovered from the Milky way. That was also my old theory to fit with the black hole physics.

My ideas are ALWAYS discovered, because they are based on a model, that must be real. The simple theory that Gravity is a push force. And most people do not realise how much that changes physics.

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Zoq, i find your comment highly offensive, racist, childish and above all, just plane stupid


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 22:00
Quote: "Because scientists find all of my ideas years later. Only last week there was news on Black Hole physics in atoms just below Quantum Physics of today, and that was the basis of my idea. The week before that there was a bubble discovered from the Milky way. That was also my old theory to fit with the black hole physics."


YES! That's how you do it. Your proof exists in the future, so you can claim it now. This man is genius, guys, let's give him a round of applause.

*clap*

*clap*

*clop*

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 22:05
Quote: "YES! That's how you do it. Your proof exists in the future, so you can claim it now."


My proof exists in the future, and my posts exist in the past. So the posts are the proof that I am using a valid model.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 22:07
Quote: "My proof exists in the future, and my posts exist in the past. So the posts are the proof that I am using a valid model."
You must be a comedian!
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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 22:13
The more of this thread I read, the less I think it's a joke.
And then I am sad.
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Quote: "Because scientists find all of my ideas years later. Only last week there was news on Black Hole physics in atoms just below Quantum Physics of today, and that was the basis of my idea. The week before that there was a bubble discovered from the Milky way. That was also my old theory to fit with the black hole physics.

My ideas are ALWAYS discovered, because they are based on a model, that must be real. The simple theory that Gravity is a push force. And most people do not realise how much that changes physics."


I have read a few articles making that claim! And I dont know much about hard-physics to have an oppinion on it. What matters is how you convey your theories and how you react to counter arguments. This is where, in my eyes, the issues with the negative resonance of your posts lie. The words you chose, not the things you say.

Again, I hope for you that your theories, whatever they are, will be proven correctly in the end. I like the concept of the underdog breaking the norm

I quickly googled your claim of gravity pushing rather than pulling and wiki answers states that "There are many arguments for both pull and push when it comes to gravity, a search of the internet will lead you to many arguments for both push and pull " so you are not alone with your view.

You just dont need to be hostile and extreme about it.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 22:32
Quote: "My proof exists in the future, and my posts exist in the past. So the posts are the proof that I am using a valid model."


Is this proof unified with that physics whacko thought/idea you had a while ago?


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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 22:50 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 22:56
Quote: "I quickly googled your claim of gravity pushing rather than pulling and wiki answers states that "There are many arguments for both pull and push when it comes to gravity, a search of the internet will lead you to many arguments for both push and pull " so you are not alone with your view."


It's not just a view, I have completely different mechanics to all of the other models. I put holes in all of the particles, and allow gravity to be a flow into the holes. The flow then holds us to the Earth, and when you have a flow into a hole you need an out flow which is magnetism. And when you have two opposing flows you get bubbles. In such a short sentence I have accounted for Dark Matter, Gravity, The Michelson-Morley Experiment, the bending of space time, Galaxy formation, sun bubbles, particle wave duality, the two slit experiment...

I account for everything discovered just by having a flow into holes instead of attraction. I reverse the cosmological constant to account for a flow force, and an out flow. Then the out flow is Dark Matter, and the in flow is gravity.

I have simplified everything.

I wait then.. and science finds the bubbles...

take 2009, the science forums treated it as a joke...

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?97712-Bubble-Universe-%28Tongue-In-Cheek%29

But I first posted my idea in 2004. Then they find the bubbles of Dark Matter about 2010...

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2013/03/in-2011-an-analysis-of-data-from-a-nasa-fermi-gamma-ray-space-telescope-turned-up-massive-previously-unseen-galactic-struct.html


... and I keep going each year, post something... then it's found. If I could find all of my posts, you would see that I posted that Black Holes feed the out flow of gravity to create the bubbles. Then the bubbles contain the Galaxy physics, and trap more physics to create the suns.

It's all based on the same principle. You need an out-flow for an in-flow, and this will create bubbles, and bubbles will contain energy, and trap it. This will work all the way down to atoms, and inside atoms you will have the in-flow. Then the atoms will behave like beads on a string of the in-flow, and you will have bonding.

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But anyway, keep going guys. I'm sure you'll stretch a logical conclusion out of this thread any second now.

Sungazing sounds nice until you remember that we don't have Chlorophyll in your retinas. Just photosensitive cells that dislike UV radiation.
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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 23:16 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 23:26
Has anyone posted a link to the source that claims NASA said any of these things?

Quote: "A joyless website of some insecure bafoon (this is my opinion, I dont know the guy) that tends to childishly dismiss things I have seen working countless times in a very sarcastic and mean-spirited way so others with antiquated points of view can have a good chuckle and feel superior to these clearly pathetic people that believe in things beyond our 5 senses (that can perceive less than one percent of the proven electromagnetic spectrum by the way.) and dont have the urge to know and control everything and dismiss whatever does not fit in their precious little save reality. "


I have yet to find anything incorrectly dismissed on that site. It's not run by one person by the way; it's generally editable by anyone, just like Wikipedia. Except people that edit it generally tend to be skeptics and rationalists, who understand the complexity of the subconscious, and how it makes us see and feel things that aren't really there.

I'm guessing you people believe in ghosts too. Here's a tip: they've never been proven to exist. Of course people have many anecdotes and 'experiences' where they've really come face to face with a REAL ghost! But since we know hallucinations are a well understood and proven phenomenon, it's more likely than something that has absolutely no evidence and no grounding in real science.

Quote: "As I stated above. this is just not the forum for this stuff @Melancholic"


Why not? At the very base this is a programming forum, so it's concerned with logic and facts. So it's only natural that some of us want to keep the credulous people informed on what's really real and what isn't.

I'm wondering now if this thread was meant as a joke.

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I'm wondering now if this thread was meant as a joke."


As I stated in the "kid in prison" thread. Everything can be seen as a joke.

Quote: "I'm guessing you people believe in ghosts too. Here's a tip: they've never been proven to exist. Of course people have many anecdotes and 'experiences' where they've really come face to face with a REAL ghost! But since we know hallucinations are a well understood and proven phenomenon, it's more likely than something that has absolutely no evidence and no grounding in real science."


I dont disagree with you. I just disagree with the way this wiki words some things.

It is one thing to examine something rationally and weigh out argument and counterargument. Another to make fun of other peoples believes and theories on a wiki-site. Thats my issue with the website. The ground-idea is okay, the execution of some articles is not.

Quote: "At the very base this is a programming forum, so it's concerned with logic and facts."


Its a gamecreation forum so its concerned with logic, fact, creativity, fun, videogames, art and fantasy. So I try to keep my posts in that spectrum rather than produce misplaced arguments. I also dont post conspiracy theories on a police forum or spiritual things on a hard-science forum. This is my opinion. Melancholic can post, within the AUP, whatever he wants


Quote: "It's not just a view, I have completely different mechanics to all of the other models. I put holes in all of the particles, and allow gravity to be a flow into the holes. The flow then holds us to the Earth, and when you have a flow into a hole you need an out flow which is magnetism. And when you have two opposing flows you get bubbles. In such a short sentence I have accounted for Dark Matter, Gravity, The Michelson-Morley Experiment, the bending of space time, Galaxy formation, sun bubbles, particle wave duality, the two slit experiment...

I account for everything discovered just by having a flow into holes instead of attraction. I reverse the cosmological constant to account for a flow force, and an out flow. Then the out flow is Dark Matter, and the in flow is gravity."


If you are truely convicted of your point of view do what people throughout history always did. Gather proof, write essays about counter arguments and wait to be proven right! I have no point of view on your theory, but back you up as a human being because I admire your determination.

Throughout human history, many people have been ridiculed, many things in science fiction is now real. Perhaps you are right. Only time will tell... and if not, doesnt matter...life goes on. Best luck!



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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 23:46 Edited at: 10th Jul 2013 23:47
Quote: "I'm wondering now if this thread was meant as a joke."
Well, with a statement like
Quote: "Suck it science!"
opening the thread up, I would not dismiss this being a joke.
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Posted: 10th Jul 2013 23:49
Quote: "Its a gamecreation forum so its concerned with logic, fact, creativity, fun, videogames, art and fantasy."


You're right, it's somewhat broader than I thought.

Quote: "It is one thing to examine something rationally and weigh out argument and counterargument. Another to make fun of other peoples believes and theories on a wiki-site. Thats my issue with the website. The ground-idea is okay, the execution of some articles is not."


I agree that its execution is not very civilized, and will be likely to turn 'believers' away from the site rather than taking in the information it provides. But I think the writing style is inspired from the frustration that a lot of people believe in so many things that have no real scientific evidence, only personal anecdotes. At least, for us who have already researched and dismissed such ideas (to the point where we don't accept it really works until there's some real evidence provided for it), it's a source of humour.

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Respect for Tesla.
I went through a mad phase where I went a bit Homer simpson/Thomas Edison on everyone.

astonishing man and brilliant contribution.

I'm not a complete idiot -- Some parts are just missing.
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Quote: " But I think the writing style is inspired from the frustration that a lot of people believe in so many things that have no real scientific evidence, only personal anecdotes."


Yes! This can be frustrating as a general view on humanity. I read a state where a guy said he believed that a pantheistic deity put dinosaur bones here to test our faith. Its really depressing to know that grown up people truely believe this. Especially when it are racist, mysantrophic or deconstructive believes. Again, it would probably be more beneficial to overload these with prove from many sources rather than call them "wackos" "woos" or downright idiots. This is why I dont concider it a credible website and more a "Iamright.com" site.

However, my family and I are into alternative healing methods for decades and I have seen a lot of great things coming from it so the blatant dismissing of some of these seems rather tasteless and non-beneficial.
I can understand the skepticism involved, and skepticism is healthy and crucial to our survival (otherwise we would've fallen victim to some mass delusional pseudoreligion at some point).
I dont believe until I see,experience or hear a set-in-stone credible theory (the earth is round). I never believe anything to be absolutely true though.
I'm an irrational esoteric, you seem to be rational and down to earth, we may never see eye to eye but at least we can be civil about it. this website is not. (the objectivity on "Human" in this wiki is funny though!)

Quote: "I went through a mad phase where I went a bit Homer simpson/Thomas Edison on everyone."


What?



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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 00:46 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 00:50
I say always take what you read with a pinch of salt. A lot of people trying to make claims will try to grasp at reputable sources to try and bring integrity to their claims, they could be saying it despite the source having nothing to do with their claims, they could also be taking something out of context or taking something and twisting it to support their claims.

If this is a NASA claim, I would rather hear it directly from NASA, yes, I am a skeptic, but there's a LOT and I mean a LOT of misinformation out there, especially on the internet. But given the claims are extraordinary, I wouldn't blindly accept them if NASA claimed it, I would expect to see the evidence.

I think one thing that flags this up for me is that it is a string of claims, without information to back it up. A good article will not only 'tell' but also 'show'. For something claiming back up from NASA, yet showing none of it does make it harder for me to trust. It also weaves its claims into the benefits of meditation, things like meditation are certainly good when it comes to psychology, but the non-psychological effects listed? I would actually prefer to see the actual back up from NASA. Its citation is a similar article, whose citations have nothing to do with NASA, worryingly one of the citations is David Icke.

If for any reason there's truth behind the claims, it's an extremely poorly written article with poor choices for citation.

Not denying that there's truth in it as I am one always open minded and will accept things are possible unless disproven, but there's so much wrong with the article that to me it just reads as conjecture and I would suggest it's very unlikely that the article is true. I'm not one to deny people their beliefs unless they have no problem with me challenging them (then I will not hold back), but my general philosophy is "believe what you like, just don't hurt anybody", however, I am not convinced this is in any way scientific (but don't worry, I don't find what Pincho says scientific either, he claims judgment a priori, whereas science is a posteriori, his 'in the future' comment helps confirm it)

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 01:16 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 01:19
Quote: " I don't find what Pincho says scientific either, he claims judgment a priori, whereas science is a posteriori, his 'in the future' comment helps confirm it) "


I don't know what you mean. I looked up priory, and posteriori and they had no connection to anything in the thread. Not only that but they are based on philosophy, and my theory is based on physics. You find physics as a proof, but philosophy is based on conversation.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 01:20
Quote: "Sure, deny the evidence when it seems convenient, WHAT ABOUT THE SOURCE THE ARTICLE USES?"


The article doesn't link any sources or evidence. It just links to a Russian newspaper about a guy who supposedly lived off 11 years of sunlight, a forum, and a website promoting it. It completely fabricated being backed by NASA, which should be a gigantic red flag to anyone even considering buying this.

Quote: "Throughout human history, many people have been ridiculed, many things in science fiction is now real. "


A tiny percentage of the people ridiculed have turned out to be right, you just only hear about those stories.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 01:28 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 01:32
What I think is that Einstein, and Newton had to think about the Universe in mathematics, and their physics were written on a blackboard. But computer game designers have to think about physics all of the time as well, and their physics are in 3D models that you can see visually. I think that I have such a great advantage over Einstein, and Newton that my physics have a superior reality. The bending of spacetime is an idea shown on a rubber mat, and when you see it you should realise that gravity is actually the cause of the bend on the rubber mat, and yet Einstein wanted the bend to be the cause of Gravity. So it is backwards.

If you are experienced in physics like a game designer, and you always see a result on a computer screen, you start to build up a set of physics that you can actually create a set of Cause, and effect in the correct order.

So the bend on the rubber mat, and the bend towards a plug hole then start to match up. So a liquid flowing into a hole becomes the replacement for the bending of spacetime. Now cause, and effect that a flow creates Gravity as a force is the right way around.

Now you can say that gravity is still the cause of the bend towards the plug hole. But the plug hole is now a black hole, and the flow is towards the area of least resistance. So the area of least resistance is the direction of Gravity.

The physics all build up in a correlation that games designers should be able to understand.

It's all physics, there is no philosophy.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 01:31 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 01:32
Quote: "It's all physics, there is no philosophy."


Except for all the matters where there is philosophy. I deem philosophy to be superior as it questions things beyond physics.

Quote: "A tiny percentage of the people ridiculed have turned out to be right, you just only hear about those stories.
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True! But massive things like dinosaurs actually existed, animals have feelings and are not machines, flight, spacetravel.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 01:33 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 01:33
Quote: "Except for all the matters where there is philosophy. I deem philosophy to be superior as it questions things beyond physics."


There is nothing beyond physics.. everything is physics. So already.. philosophy has become useless.

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