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JD Programming
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Posted: 24th Nov 2003 23:50
Hey everyone!

Was just wondering what people like to program with the most and why...for me I love programming in Visual Basic, HTML, PHP, and DarkBASIC.

Visual Basic: Is my favourite choice though, because I just love the resources out there on the net for it, and it is really easy to get into it.

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JD Programming
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I'm thinking of getting Pro for Christmas

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dark basic-cos its easy to make nice visual stuff which is really good when your learning and want to make games
i do want to get into visual basic but need a bit of money to buy it i made a calculator in vb for office though, how cool am i?


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JD Programming
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Posted: 24th Nov 2003 23:54
Very! You could maybe send it to me and I'll tell you what I think if you like

james@jdpgamestudios.co.uk.

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Well, definitely DBPro for game development, but I prefer VB for application programming. Ultimately, though, I'd like to be fluent in C++ because it's great for both.

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lol, its actually not that good! just add/minus/multiply/divide 2 numbers, to send one do you have to send the excel file its "contained" in? it took me 15mins max to make it


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I've made things for MSN (add-ons) and things like IP Scanners, and Chat Rooms

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DB Classic is my current favourite. I am happy to have used nearly all of its commands, and I can often sit down and write programs first time, without bugs. I can also program in VB, but I only have VB5 and it is a bit useless for games.

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not greatly fond of any right now... but i'd say Cg ^_^ simply cause its the most interesting atm


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C++ is the ULTIMATE lauguage, hands down...

You can do almost ANYthing in C

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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 00:08
Macromedia Coldfusion - It's what pays my substantial wages!

Also PHP as it's really easy to use but so powerful.

DBPro for games but yet to complete anything decent.

VB6 was a favourite couple of years ago but gone off it now.


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How can you go off Visual Basic!!!

Saying that I must admit that I stop using it for awhile but I always come running back

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I like C, some BASIC's and ARM Assembler..


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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 00:49
TheAbomb12
Quote: "C++ is the ULTIMATE lauguage, hands down..."


Not anymore....

enter .NET
(C#, VB.NET)

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DBP - Best for games

Done some work in VB (Calculater...We Rock ReD_eYe!), but it's just not my choice for games.

Currently thinking about getting into Delphi.(Downloading V7 from website right now to give it a try.) Any opionions on Delphi?

C++, is of course probebly the choiced language. Unfortuantly, I can hardly do anything with it.

Right now DBP is probebly my favorite, only because it gives results fast.



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JD Programming
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Can someone explain .NET to me please? I don't see what the big fuss is all about

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I've made a calculator with C++ and that's about it

Te He

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JD you are better off reading about it on the web - too much to explain here. All I can say, from a vb programmer's stand-point ... VB.NET ROCKS!


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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 01:32
from my viewpoint ... VB.NET BLOWS!


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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 01:32
and with dx9 sdk for managed code you can write true DX games in vb.net, unheard of in prior versions of DX and VB.

enough said.

I implore all of you to give it a read on ms site .../DirectX

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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 01:33 Edited at: 25th Nov 2003 01:33
ok now that's just FLAMEBAIT so I won't even reply.

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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 01:35 Edited at: 25th Nov 2003 01:36
hehe

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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 01:38
It's hard to take anything you say serious anymore mattman.

Quote: "from my viewpoint ... VB.NET BLOWS!"


Why does VB.Net blow? Cause it's too hard? Well, that's one of the reasons I've pretty much backed away from it, but at least I've tried multiple times. I bet you havn't even tried it.



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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 01:39
That was obviously flamebait, Castle and I have this convo once in a while. God, you take the fun out of everything yellow.

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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 01:55 Edited at: 25th Nov 2003 01:56
In order of preference:

1) DBPro for 3D & sprites
2) Visual Basic for applications
3) Visual C++ if I want to be dammed for all eternity (makes the sign of the cross and begs forgiveness)

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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 03:34
none right now.....
is HTML a programming language? i don't class it as a programming language for some unknown reason, maybe it is because i use dreamweaver and only tweak odd lines here and there
but i have no preferences for programming languages at the mo' as i don't use any properly at the mo'
i was not overly keen on visual basic and i have just started to learn DB (altho i only have classic version st mo')

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Probably PHP, I use it the most. lol


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Pascal, cause I used to know it better than anything else. Right now, its DBP cause I'm more fluent in that, but I'd prefer to use C++ if I knew a little more on it.
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DB and Delphi 7... don't need anything else

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Sorry, for me it's gotta be VB.Net

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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 12:47
Why is delphi so much "better" than .NET ? and other MS languages?

Ive heard it mentioned alot of times...


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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 13:21
There's a .NET version of Delphi now, too. However you can still create native executables for Windows (and for Linux). IE your users don't need the .NET framework.
Opposed to "pre .NET" VB versions, Delphi EXEs don't require any seperate runtime libs.

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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 13:44
um, ok...

ok, how about this... How is delphi different to other languages, like you have DarkBASIC which is BASIC for 3D Games. VB which is BASIC for all sorts, but hard for 3D. and C(++)(#) which is psoably one of the most powerful languages there is to date.
So... where does delphi fit in?

Sorry if it's a newbish question, im just not too uptodate on languages other than DB.


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C# is the most powerful language to-date, VB.NET is it's vb-syntax equivalent. Earlier versions of vb were absolutely inferior to C++, but all that has changed with the advent of .net technology. All things are now as they should be, equal. If anyone has any doubts, they should read up on the topics on the web. There are plenty of sites that review/discuss the new technology (non-ms sites). It's quite interesting stuff.

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I may consider moving into VB.NET after Christmas

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Delphi is a RAD tool that is based on pascal. I think it is Object Pascal to my knowledge, but i cant be sure. I havent used VB or VC++, so i dont know exactly where it fits, but Delphi is a viual RAD program, that allows you to create anything really. All you haveto do is code it in pascal and youre away.

It is a very powerful language, and can be used for games even, although it isnt much.

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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 15:00 Edited at: 25th Nov 2003 15:00
I've been currently learning about old programming languages in Computing, and things like Fortron, Pascal, Algo, etc were mentioned and all sound very interesting

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COBOL rocks!

Damn, they're probably still teaching cobol in some backwater college in the third world.

Personally, I only ever use DBPro because it's about as enjoyable as programming can be - I code in VB all day everyday for a living, and it's ok, but not the sort of language you'd use instead of DB.


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yellow,
Delphi is cool, runs fast and stands by itself, unlike VB.
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Tony Hawks Pro Skater engine is written in Delphi. Yes it is Object Pascal an extended version of famous Borland’s Turbo Pascal (Borland has be awarded several times for this state-of-the-art compiler) and it is an all-around tool... really great.

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Van B I would agree with you if you are speaking of VB6 or prior - have you seen .net and DX9 SDK for managed code (VB.NET, C#, mC++) ? A new game building platform has been born, but is still in it's infancy...

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Yeah, I have to code VB in Computing, it's fun but just because I know what I'm doing

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Anyone out there 'loving' Linux?



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Just thought I'd put in my two-pennies worth of .Net discussion.

I've been using .Net for nearly 3 years now. Was VERY fortunate to be an official Beta-Tester of the product way back in October 2000 so it's like a second language to me now.

I haven't had any problems what so ever, the results it gives are more than enough for my work and the customers of the company I work for have also been taken back with comments like "I didn't think internet stuff could do that", "How is the program running of a web page then", "Well the screen shots look good, er, y'mean that's the program!!!"

CattleRustler is also right, c# is a damn fine language, although personally I've never got into it, but from what I've read, and the little experience I have had, it's a step up from Asp/Vb.net.

I'd seriously recommend anyone who wants to enter a career in programming to learn .Net. Despite what anyone thinks (I probably will get flamed for this!!!), Microsoft do lead the way in steering the programming market (having more than 75% of the worlds computing running on their systems and they have to really), and the next version of .Net and it's IDE (Whidbey), is even better.

You can program (on the fly) user configurations, so each visitor can have their own 'style' for your program, database handling is an absolute doddle (a few drags and drops, and you've got a full searchable, sortable, filterable database) and SOOOOO much more to list.

As a last sentance, from someone with 17 years experience in software engineering, DON'T be put off by silly comments on what .Net can do. I hope CattleRustler and other users agree, that the majority of developers who says .Net is full of bugs, really have a problem with their own code - a poor workman always blames his tools...!

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JSN, want to help a guy out with an ASP.NET ---> Remoting --->vb.net exe problem/questions??

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Will give it a try, although I have to inform you it's dinner time over here, the wife on her way home and a chicken chow mein winging it's way from the take away, so can't guarantee an answer until later this evening!!!!

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